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Old 09-22-08, 12:15 PM   #1 (permalink)
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A Mortgage Fable

This commentary pretty much sums up the disinformation from the politicians on BOTH sides of the aisle and lack of curiosity from the mainstream drive-by media.

The only thing still missing from this picture of BS is how much derivatives played a role on top of the speculative packaging of sub prime mortgages.

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Once upon a time, in the land that FDR built, there was the rule of "regulation" and all was right on Wall and Main Streets. Wise 27-year-old bank examiners looked down upon the banks and saw that they were sound. America's Hobbits lived happily in homes financed by 30-year-mortgages that never left their local banker's balance sheet, and nary a crisis did we have.

Then, lo, came the evil Reagan marching from Mordor with his horde of Orcs, short for "market fundamentalists." Reagan's apprentice, Gramm of Texas and later of McCain, unleashed the scourge of "deregulation," and thus were "greed," short-selling, securitization, McMansions, liar loans and other horrors loosed upon the world of men.

Now, however, comes Obama of Illinois, Schumer of New York and others in the fellowship of the Beltway to slay the Orcs and restore the rule of the regulator. So once more will the Hobbits be able to sleep peacefully in the shire.


.....Washington is as deeply implicated in this meltdown as anyone on Wall Street or at Countrywide Financial. Going back decades, but especially in the past 15 or so years, our politicians have promoted housing and easy credit with a variety of subsidies and policies that helped to create and feed the mania. Let us take the roll of political cause and financial effect:

- The Federal Reserve. The original sin of this crisis was easy money. For too long this decade, especially from 2003 to 2005, the Fed held interest rates below the level of expected inflation, thus creating a vast subsidy for debt that both households and financial firms exploited. The housing bubble was a result, along with its financial counterparts, the subprime loan and the mortgage SIV.

- Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. Created by government, and able to borrow at rates lower than fully private corporations because of the implied backing from taxpayers, these firms turbocharged the credit mania. They channeled far more liquidity into the market than would have been the case otherwise, especially from the Chinese, who thought (rightly) that they were investing in mortgage securities that were as safe as Treasurys but with a higher yield.

- A credit-rating oligopoly. Thanks to federal and state regulation, a small handful of credit rating agencies pass judgment on the risk for all debt securities in our markets. Many of these judgments turned out to be wrong, and this goes to the root of the credit crisis: Assets officially deemed rock-solid by the government's favored risk experts have lately been recognized as nothing of the kind.

- Banking regulators. In the Beltway fable, bank supervision all but vanished in recent years. But the great irony is that the banks that made some of the worst mortgage investments are the most highly regulated. The Fed's regulators blessed, or overlooked, Citigroup's off-balance-sheet SIVs, while the SEC tolerated leverage of 30 or 40 to 1 by Lehman and Bear Stearns.

- The Community Reinvestment Act. This 1977 law compels banks to make loans to poor borrowers who often cannot repay them. Banks that failed to make enough of these loans were often held hostage by activists when they next sought some regulatory approval.

We could cite other Washington policies, including the political agitation for "mark-to-market" accounting that has forced firms to record losses after ratings downgrades even if the assets haven't been sold. But these are some of the main lowlights.

Our point here isn't to absolve Wall Street or pretend there weren't private excesses. But the investment mistakes would surely have been less extreme, and ultimately their damage more containable, if not for the enormous political support and subsidy for mortgage credit. Beware politicians who peddle fables that cast themselves as the heroes.

A Mortgage Fable - WSJ.com

The only thing missing from this fairytale is the notion that MORE regulation from politicians in Washington who comprehend little and know nothing is going to keep messes like this from re-occurring.

Speculative high risk investments are just that, speculative and high risk. The market as is currently operating is doing what it is supposed to do and adjusting to the junk created by MBAs being pumped out of our top education institutions trying to find ways to increase their incomes and bonuses without much risk to themselves.

Now the piper must be paid. I am okay with the bailouts as long as the Government gets out of the financial business once and for all and stops creating policies that make this kind of speculative market thrive in the first place.

This isn't about the economy as a whole; it is about the financial markets and their inability to risk all for short term gains and profit taking at the risk of the company’s long term viability and the security of the people who trusted their advice.
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The Community Reinvestment Act: I have a link in my thread "How did we....mess"
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The Community Reinvestment Act: I have a link in my thread "How did we....mess"
Is this in the Economic threads? I'd like to look at it.
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http://www.debatepolitics.com/economics/36637-how-did-we-get-financial-mess.html (How did we get in this financial mess?)
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