There are 100 million people out of work in the US

reason10 · Oct 22, 2015

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The national unemployment rates gets lots of attention, and lately more attention has been paid to the workforce participation rate since more Americans have given up looking for a job, but we can also see that an astounding 100 million Americans don’t have jobs.

Specifically, these are people who are part of the civilian over-16 non-institutional population who are either unemployed or not part of the workforce. According to the April jobs report, the number of jobless American stood at 100.9 million.

That’s an all-time record and it’s an increase of 26.2 million over the last 12 years. It’s as if we absorbed the entire adult population of Canada and not a single person had a job.

http://joemiller.us/2015/02/five-years-obamanomics-record-100-million-americans-not-working/

Those 347,000 for December, 2013, however, are still out there not working, and suffering. Indeed, they joined a near record of more than 102 million Americans not working in December, all still out there and suffering without jobs. Those 102 million Americans are the human face of an employment-population ratio stuck at a pitiful 58.6%. In fact, more than 100 million Americans were not working in Obama’s workers’ paradise for all of 2013 and 2012.

The 102.159 million Americans not working in December is not the all-time record of Americans not working. That all-time record was set in October, 2013, at 102.896 million. The employment-population ratio that month was an even more pitiful 58.2%. (Read more about the Obamanomics HERE)

http://www.dailybell.com/news-analysis/3926/100-Million-Americans-Out-of-Work--This-is-a-Recovery/

Free-Market Analysis: There are 300 million people in America including 230 million-plus adults, according to US Census figures. This article, above, informs us that only 130 million Americans have jobs as traditionally defined in the 20th and 21st century.

The statistics actually come from the federal government and, of course, not all of the 100 million Americans out of work want jobs or need jobs. Some are retired, or stay-at-home parents or students at universities or individuals with disabilities who are not able to work.

But 100 million is a staggering number, nonetheless. And of the remaining 130 million, how many are either underemployed or working more than one job to make ends meet?

All because of the policies of Barak Saddam Hussein Obama.
THE WORST PRESIDENT IN AMERICAN HISTORY.

OrphanSlug · Oct 22, 2015

There is so much social and economic reason as to why there are 100 million people not in the workforce, it becomes pathetically laughable and blindly hyper-partisan to blame the whole thing on Obama (or really any President) alone.

DDD · Oct 22, 2015

OrphanSlug said:
There is so much social and economic reason as to why there are 100 million people not in the workforce, it becomes pathetically laughable and blindly hyper-partisan to blame the whole thing on Obama (or really any President) alone.

But is the source credible when claiming these staggering numbers? It is like 1/3 of US is unemployed?

OrphanSlug · Oct 22, 2015

DDD said:
But is the source credible when claiming these staggering numbers? It is like 1/3 of US is unemployed?

When you blend in the effects of baby boomers going into retirement faster than we produce new workforce participants with those who want to work but are unemployed (or underemployed)... then yes 1/3rd of the nation is unemployed. But there is both social and economic reason as to why that is the case, and very little of it (actually, none of it) any one President can repair on their own.

That is the main point.

Conservatives all the time complain about the economics of government involvement (mixed and planned economies, always "free market" this or that... which has never existed as such,) then complain when a President does not impact the economy in a way they see as good enough.

WTF?!?! (Let that set in for a moment.)

Dittohead not! · Oct 22, 2015

DDD said:
But is the source credible when claiming these staggering numbers? It is like 1/3 of US is unemployed?

Probably.
Add in the people under 18, and/or full time students, those who have their own businesses and work for themselves, the over 65's who keep getting more numerous and tend to be retired, stay at home moms, and you have quite a few unemployed.

And, there is plenty of work to do coming up with spurious statistics claiming gloom and doom and blasting the current president for the situation. That should put some of the unemployed to work.

azgreg · Oct 22, 2015

DDD said:
But is the source credible when claiming these staggering numbers? It is like 1/3 of US is unemployed?

The labor force participation rate is 62.4%, so about 1/3 of those eligible to work don't for one reason or another.

Gaius46 · Oct 22, 2015

DDD said:
But is the source credible when claiming these staggering numbers? It is like 1/3 of US is unemployed?

What matters is the people who are unemployment and are/were actually looking for work. People who have chosen to not work because they don't want or need to really don't count. No government can be blamed because retired persons don't want to work.

DDD · Oct 23, 2015

Gaius46 said:
What matters is the people who are unemployment and are/were actually looking for work. People who have chosen to not work because they don't want or need to really don't count. No government can be blamed because retired persons don't want to work.

azgreg said:
The labor force participation rate is 62.4%, so about 1/3 of those eligible to work don't for one reason or another.

Dittohead not! said:
Probably.
Add in the people under 18, and/or full time students, those who have their own businesses and work for themselves, the over 65's who keep getting more numerous and tend to be retired, stay at home moms, and you have quite a few unemployed.

And, there is plenty of work to do coming up with spurious statistics claiming gloom and doom and blasting the current president for the situation. That should put some of the unemployed to work.

OrphanSlug said:
When you blend in the effects of baby boomers going into retirement faster than we produce new workforce participants with those who want to work but are unemployed (or underemployed)... then yes 1/3rd of the nation is unemployed. But there is both social and economic reason as to why that is the case, and very little of it (actually, none of it) any one President can repair on their own.

That is the main point.

Conservatives all the time complain about the economics of government involvement (mixed and planned economies, always "free market" this or that... which has never existed as such,) then complain when a President does not impact the economy in a way they see as good enough.

WTF?!?! (Let that set in for a moment.)

That 1/3 of US is unemployed was a far heavier information that needed time to set in for me, than blaming POTUS.

pinqy · Oct 23, 2015

azgreg said:
The labor force participation rate is 62.4%, so about 1/3 of those eligible to work don't for one reason or another.

The Labor Force is Employed plus Unemployed. 5.1% of the labor force is not working.

imagep · Oct 23, 2015

Maybe the OP believes that my 99 year old Grandmother should be working, my full time college student son, people like Mit Romney and Bill Gates, and my friends daughter who is in the hospital right now giving birth (she should be back at work tomorrow right?).

Dam those slackers!

joG · Oct 23, 2015

imagep said:
Maybe the OP believes that my 99 year old Grandmother should be working, my full time college student son, people like Mit Romney and Bill Gates, and my friends daughter who is in the hospital right now giving birth (she should be back at work tomorrow right?).

Dam those slackers!

It does seem rather undisciplined, does it not?

imagep · Oct 23, 2015

The OP claimed in a response to one of my posts that that 100 million people "want" jobs. So I guess they aren't slackers at all, they must all be actively looking for jobs. Seems that someone like Mit Romney could at least get a job at McDonalds as a fry cook.

joG · Oct 23, 2015

reason10 said:
100 Million Americans Out of Work Archives - SavingtheRepublic.com: Video News & Opinion

100 Million Americans Out of Work: Media Praises Unemployment Dropping to Lowest Since 2008

100 Million Americans Without Jobs - Business Insider

The national unemployment rates gets lots of attention, and lately more attention has been paid to the workforce participation rate since more Americans have given up looking for a job, but we can also see that an astounding 100 million Americans don’t have jobs.

Specifically, these are people who are part of the civilian over-16 non-institutional population who are either unemployed or not part of the workforce. According to the April jobs report, the number of jobless American stood at 100.9 million.

That’s an all-time record and it’s an increase of 26.2 million over the last 12 years. It’s as if we absorbed the entire adult population of Canada and not a single person had a job.

After Five Years of Obamanomics, a Record 100 Million Americans Not Working | Restoring Liberty

Those 347,000 for December, 2013, however, are still out there not working, and suffering. Indeed, they joined a near record of more than 102 million Americans not working in December, all still out there and suffering without jobs. Those 102 million Americans are the human face of an employment-population ratio stuck at a pitiful 58.6%. In fact, more than 100 million Americans were not working in Obama’s workers’ paradise for all of 2013 and 2012.

The 102.159 million Americans not working in December is not the all-time record of Americans not working. That all-time record was set in October, 2013, at 102.896 million. The employment-population ratio that month was an even more pitiful 58.2%. (Read more about the Obamanomics HERE)

The Daily Bell - 100 Million Americans Out of Work – This is a Recovery?

Free-Market Analysis: There are 300 million people in America including 230 million-plus adults, according to US Census figures. This article, above, informs us that only 130 million Americans have jobs as traditionally defined in the 20th and 21st century.

The statistics actually come from the federal government and, of course, not all of the 100 million Americans out of work want jobs or need jobs. Some are retired, or stay-at-home parents or students at universities or individuals with disabilities who are not able to work.

But 100 million is a staggering number, nonetheless. And of the remaining 130 million, how many are either underemployed or working more than one job to make ends meet?

All because of the policies of Barak Saddam Hussein Obama.
THE WORST PRESIDENT IN AMERICAN HISTORY.

That is quite a legacy. He made a mark.

pinqy · Oct 23, 2015

DDD said:
But is the source credible when claiming these staggering numbers? It is like 1/3 of US is unemployed?

A-13. Employment status of the civilian noninstitutional population by age, sex, and race For the week of September 6-12 (the reference week), there were 251,325,000 people age 16 and older who are not in the military, not in prison, and not in an institution. (People who have no legal barriers/restrictions for entry/exit of the labor market).
148,980,000 either worked for pay, worked 15 or more hours unpaid in a family business or farm, or were temporarily absent from work, or owned a business they participated in running.

That leaves 102,345,000 not working.

Of that 102 million, 7,628,000 want a job, could have started a job September 6-12 if offered, and had done something to try to get a job between August 16 and September 12 (sent a resume, submitted a job application, placed or answered a classified ad, bid on a contract, showed up at 7-11 or the docks for day labor, went to an audition, asked a friend if they knew of anything etc).

Employed plus Unemployed (156,607,000) are the Labor Force. Everyone else in the adult civilian non-institutional population is Not in the Labor Force.

So now we have 94,718,000 people neither working nor trying to work, (Not in the Labor Force) and we switch to A-38. Persons not in the labor force by desire and availability for work, age, and sex

Of the 95 million Not in the Labor Force, 89,134,000 do not want a job now. These include retirees, students, the disabled, stay home spouses, independently wealthy, etc.

5,584,000 say they want to work, but either were not available during the reference week or had not looked for work from Aug 16 through Sep 12. Theyre not considered unemployed because they could not have been hired in September.

Of the 5.6 million who said they wanted a a job, 3,132,000 had not looked for a job at all between 12 September 2014 and 12 September 2015. These people are no more likely to start looking for work than people who say they don't want a job.

Of the 2,452,000 who wanted a job and had looked in the last year (but not the last month) 531,000 were not available to work September 6-12.

So now we have 1,921,000 Marginally Attached to the Labor Force...people who are likely to start looking for work and are included in the U-5 and U-6 measurements of underutilization.

Of the Marginally Attached, 635,000 say they did not look for work Sep 6-12 because they believed they would not be hired because there were no jobs, no jobs in their field, they lacked the right skills/education, or would face discrimination. These are the Discouraged workers and are included in the U-4 underutilization measure.

The rest of the 1,287,000 Marginally Attached did not look for work in September becuase they had to look after a family member, they were in school or job training, they were sick/injured/pregnant, or had other non-labor market reasons like lack of transportation or child care.

So yes, over 100 million people are not working (not even counting those is prison or institutions), but once you look at it...it's not as dire as the fear-mongers want to paint it.

reason10 · Oct 23, 2015

pinqy said:
A-13. Employment status of the civilian noninstitutional population by age, sex, and race For the week of September 6-12 (the reference week), there were 251,325,000 people age 16 and older who are not in the military, not in prison, and not in an institution. (People who have no legal barriers/restrictions for entry/exit of the labor market).
148,980,000 either worked for pay, worked 15 or more hours unpaid in a family business or farm, or were temporarily absent from work, or owned a business they participated in running.

That leaves 102,345,000 not working.

Of that 102 million, 7,628,000 want a job, could have started a job September 6-12 if offered, and had done something to try to get a job between August 16 and September 12 (sent a resume, submitted a job application, placed or answered a classified ad, bid on a contract, showed up at 7-11 or the docks for day labor, went to an audition, asked a friend if they knew of anything etc).

Employed plus Unemployed (156,607,000) are the Labor Force. Everyone else in the adult civilian non-institutional population is Not in the Labor Force.

So now we have 94,718,000 people neither working nor trying to work, (Not in the Labor Force) and we switch to A-38. Persons not in the labor force by desire and availability for work, age, and sex

Of the 95 million Not in the Labor Force, 89,134,000 do not want a job now. These include retirees, students, the disabled, stay home spouses, independently wealthy, etc.

5,584,000 say they want to work, but either were not available during the reference week or had not looked for work from Aug 16 through Sep 12. Theyre not considered unemployed because they could not have been hired in September.

Of the 5.6 million who said they wanted a a job, 3,132,000 had not looked for a job at all between 12 September 2014 and 12 September 2015. These people are no more likely to start looking for work than people who say they don't want a job.

Of the 2,452,000 who wanted a job and had looked in the last year (but not the last month) 531,000 were not available to work September 6-12.

So now we have 1,921,000 Marginally Attached to the Labor Force...people who are likely to start looking for work and are included in the U-5 and U-6 measurements of underutilization.

Of the Marginally Attached, 635,000 say they did not look for work Sep 6-12 because they believed they would not be hired because there were no jobs, no jobs in their field, they lacked the right skills/education, or would face discrimination. These are the Discouraged workers and are included in the U-4 underutilization measure.

The rest of the 1,287,000 Marginally Attached did not look for work in September becuase they had to look after a family member, they were in school or job training, they were sick/injured/pregnant, or had other non-labor market reasons like lack of transportation or child care.

So yes, over 100 million people are not working (not even counting those is prison or institutions), but once you look at it...it's not as dire as the fear-mongers want to paint it.

Suggesting the WORST ECONOMY AND WORST UNEMPLOYMENT NUMBERS IN THE ENTIRE HISTORY OF AMERICA is not fear mongering. It's called REPORTING THE FACTS.

DDD · Oct 23, 2015

pinqy said:
A-13. Employment status of the civilian noninstitutional population by age, sex, and race For the week of September 6-12 (the reference week), there were 251,325,000 people age 16 and older who are not in the military, not in prison, and not in an institution. (People who have no legal barriers/restrictions for entry/exit of the labor market).
148,980,000 either worked for pay, worked 15 or more hours unpaid in a family business or farm, or were temporarily absent from work, or owned a business they participated in running.

That leaves 102,345,000 not working.

Of that 102 million, 7,628,000 want a job, could have started a job September 6-12 if offered, and had done something to try to get a job between August 16 and September 12 (sent a resume, submitted a job application, placed or answered a classified ad, bid on a contract, showed up at 7-11 or the docks for day labor, went to an audition, asked a friend if they knew of anything etc).

Employed plus Unemployed (156,607,000) are the Labor Force. Everyone else in the adult civilian non-institutional population is Not in the Labor Force.

So now we have 94,718,000 people neither working nor trying to work, (Not in the Labor Force) and we switch to A-38. Persons not in the labor force by desire and availability for work, age, and sex

Of the 95 million Not in the Labor Force, 89,134,000 do not want a job now. These include retirees, students, the disabled, stay home spouses, independently wealthy, etc.

5,584,000 say they want to work, but either were not available during the reference week or had not looked for work from Aug 16 through Sep 12. Theyre not considered unemployed because they could not have been hired in September.

Of the 5.6 million who said they wanted a a job, 3,132,000 had not looked for a job at all between 12 September 2014 and 12 September 2015. These people are no more likely to start looking for work than people who say they don't want a job.

Of the 2,452,000 who wanted a job and had looked in the last year (but not the last month) 531,000 were not available to work September 6-12.

So now we have 1,921,000 Marginally Attached to the Labor Force...people who are likely to start looking for work and are included in the U-5 and U-6 measurements of underutilization.

Of the Marginally Attached, 635,000 say they did not look for work Sep 6-12 because they believed they would not be hired because there were no jobs, no jobs in their field, they lacked the right skills/education, or would face discrimination. These are the Discouraged workers and are included in the U-4 underutilization measure.

The rest of the 1,287,000 Marginally Attached did not look for work in September becuase they had to look after a family member, they were in school or job training, they were sick/injured/pregnant, or had other non-labor market reasons like lack of transportation or child care.

So yes, over 100 million people are not working (not even counting those is prison or institutions), but once you look at it...it's not as dire as the fear-mongers want to paint it.

:applaud

Great post, thanks for breaking it down. Sadly one can only like once.

imagep · Oct 23, 2015

reason10 said:
Suggesting the WORST ECONOMY AND WORST UNEMPLOYMENT NUMBERS IN THE ENTIRE HISTORY OF AMERICA is not fear mongering. It's called REPORTING THE FACTS.

I call it "distorting the facts".

The only reason that more people are "not working" is because we have more people. Our population grows every year, so naturally there are going to be more people not working. You are looking at the wrong part of the economic reports, what you need to be looking at is the number of people who have jobs - that's at an all time high!

Do you realize that we have gained more jobs under Obama than under all 12 years of Bush administrations put together? Do you not realize that under Obama, we have created more jobs than any president other than Reagan and Clinton? Or maybe you just don't want to realize that because it doesn't fit your narrative.

imagep · Oct 23, 2015

DDD said:
:applaud

Great post, thanks for breaking it down. Sadly one can only like once.

Yea, but lots of us can like it once, adding up to a whole bunch of likes! It's kinda like an elections, and even illegals can vote.

pinqy · Oct 23, 2015

reason10 said:
Suggesting the WORST ECONOMY AND WORST UNEMPLOYMENT NUMBERS IN THE ENTIRE HISTORY OF AMERICA is not fear mongering. It's called REPORTING THE FACTS.

It is not a fact that there are 100 million able bodied working age people who want a job and are out of work. That was your claim and it is not true.

reason10 · Oct 23, 2015

pinqy said:
It is not a fact that there are 100 million able bodied working age people who want a job and are out of work. That was your claim and it is not true.

Let's get a little more realistic.

Suppose 5 percent of that number is handicapped and unable to work. It leaves 95 percent.

Let's say about 30 percent have decided to quit looking and just live on food stamps. That brings us down to 75 percent.

Let's say about 10 percent are lazy ****ing assholes who never planned to work and just want to download baby after baby and lose the father. (You liberals WANT that number to be lower.)

That leaves 65 percent of America who want work who are OUT OF WORK.

(I say that because most old farts do NOT want to spend their lives watching Wheel of Fortune every night. They want to work.)

So we're looking at 65 percent unemployment. And the current Obama employment stats OVERLOOK that 65 percent or they just count them as employed.

So we elect Donald Trump. About a half a million new manufacturing jobs come to America in three years. We've kicked out pretty much ALL the slave-wage illegal alien fruit pickers from the Sanctuary Cities.

Now that 65 percent has a job.

And along the way, we tell those welfare bums to get off their fat lazy asses and get to work because they are CUT OFF from the federal teat.

Soon after, that 30 percent who had given up looking for a job decide that life WITH a job beats sitting home in the geeto dodging drive by bullets. So they wind up at the new automobile plants.

What all this leaves out is the fact that 90 PERCENT of the country WANTS A JOB. They may be handicapped but they want to work. They may be very old but they want something to do. Only that 10 percent of useless welfare bums DON'T want to work.

Truthfully, either scenario is easily fixed. Just remember not to elect any more Democrats to the Presidency or Congress. That's what put 100 million people out of work in the first place.

reason10 · Oct 23, 2015

I call it "distorting the facts".

There is no such thing. Just because you don't like the facts doesn't mean there's anything distorted about them.

The only reason that more people are "not working" is because we have more people.

The ONLY reason more people are not working is because of Barak Saddam Hussein Obama.

Our population grows every year, so naturally there are going to be more people not working.

It was growing in Bush's last year in office, but you left wing retards had no problem blaming him for that.

You are looking at the wrong part of the economic reports, what you need to be looking at is the number of people who have jobs - that's at an all time high!

You're looking at Washington math, which treats someone who has given up looking for a job as EMPLOYED. (I used to think liberals were smarter than that, but I apparently was mistake.)

Do you realize that we have gained more jobs under Obama than under all 12 years of Bush administrations put together?

I can't realize a ****ING LIE.

Do you not realize that under Obama, we have created more jobs than any president other than Reagan and Clinton?

I realize you THINK that to be the case. I also realize that you're probably delusional enough for your employer to give you another drug test.

Or maybe you just don't want to realize that because it doesn't fit your narrative.

My "narrative" happens to be fact, and that FACT is backed up by every reliable source known to man. I've already given you those sources.

Obama is the WORST PRESIDENT IN HISTORY. His unemployment numbers are the WORST in history. Hell, BLACK unemployment under Obama couldn't have been worse if the Grand Dragon of the KKK was president.

pinqy · Oct 23, 2015

reason10 said:
Let's get a little more realistic. .

Ok. Let me know when you're ready to do that. Nothing in your post bears any resemblence to reality. You're just making numbers up and declaring them true. That's ridiculous (in that I am ridiculing you for doing so).

Let's start with 2 basics....there are 25 million disabled included in Not in the Labor Force. That's a lot more than 5 %.

And there are 89 million who say they do NOT want a job. So how does your math work that 90% of those not working want a job?

pinqy · Oct 23, 2015

reason10 said:
You're looking at Washington math, which treats someone who has given up looking for a job as EMPLOYED. (I used to think liberals were smarter than that, but I apparently was mistake.)

And again, you just make things up. I gave you the charts, so you have the actual data and definitions. But instead you just make crap up.

reason10 · Oct 23, 2015

]Ok. Let me know when you're ready to do that. Nothing in your post bears any resemblence to reality. You're just making numbers up and declaring them true. That's ridiculous (in that I am ridiculing you for doing so).

That's all ANY of us are doing. That's all ANY poll, ANY government survey, etc is doing. It's ALL based on sampling. I just happen to have more accurate sampling than the standard liberal cretin who is stupid enough to believe KOS or Huffington.

Let's start with 2 basics....there are 25 million disabled included in Not in the Labor Force. That's a lot more than 5 %.

Your opinion only.

And there are 89 million who say they do NOT want a job. So how does your math work that 90% of those not working want a job?

Prove that number. Produce the statements from EACH person.

See, you can't because even you aren't stupid enough to think that such a thing even exists. You're just making all this crap up. I'm just a lot more skillful and intelligent doing it than you are. And I HAVE THE ACTUAL NUMBERS ON MY SIDE.

reason10 · Oct 23, 2015

pinqy said:
And again, you just make things up. I gave you the charts, so you have the actual data and definitions. But instead you just make crap up.

I gave sources and charts too. The difference is my sources are reliable. Yours aren't.

There are 100 million people out of work in the US

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