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Getting the guy or girl to date you!

Methusala

Methusala

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Well i have had a lot of time on my hands, but have thought a lot about the way women work, and have a ante in this being a human being and male. males understand what women show them, and, women when they are interested in men will show an image of how they think they will be received by the men. if the men like the women, due to beauty, composure or are desperate, they will need to approach them - this is natural in nature too - the man is the 'seeker' or cat, and the women is the 'ball' or mouse, yes? it is evident in every species that exists in our universe isn't it?

Now, to get a better chance of getting the ball you really want, you need to try to have a good first impression. this could be a enigmatic smile, a scent of deodorant, a nice physique, or a lot of other values that you may admire in yourself or they admire in you, or maybe even 'resources' position or respect/fame? there are so many ways to make a good first impression, just honestly choose your own method, okay? or, you could try to shock them to get their attention, yes?

So, you have chosen your 'ante' and eventually, you will use the one you find gets the best results all the time. your subconscious will choose for you, and you will get this message in an emotion that you will understand for yourself. then, you need to think of a 'line' if you will. flat out randomizing your 'ante'will result in something that you guess will be nice to hear, and it usually works, as a shock especially. the best lines are the ones you want to hear the answer to, like, i am new here, have you been here before, or, what is the time? anything you say to them should be a question, as then they feel like an oracle for a moment, basically, subconsciously. quoting someone else will result in familiarity with that person, and may trigger a giggle or something, hopefully she knows what you are talking about, yes?

If you have problem approaching the woman, say you are with peers that will see you fail, then you should try to look for somewhere else to do it, where you will not feel the disappointment that much. we men fear most not getting the things we really want, and instead of trying to get to heaven, pray to the devil to make it easier for our testes controlled emotions. this testes makes us aggressive to succeed, but, it will also make us socially more 'aware' of not being the alpha male, as, we are social creatures with peers that we need to fill our hearts with fiber of some sort. so, the best way to get the confidence, is to admit you really want her, and, think of other fish in the sea too - diversity!

The best way to do this with anyone is to look for 'interest' in you, by making eye contact! this will trigger a feeling, simply, of "is he looking at me?" by the woman, then, "oh my goodness, he is!" that will be followed by a third contact where you get your answer. this will be the safest way to do things. if she laughs at you, just accept that this ball is too far away, or, this ball is too 'sought after' for you to get. well, that is what she thinks! yeah...

So, identify your best features, improvise on your lines as otherwise the unexpected may happen and you will get 'rigid' or something, and use subtle ways of finding out if she is interested first.
 
I always just try to go back to the basics.

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Lutherf said:
I always just try to go back to the basics.

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The women are waiting. they have very little else to do unless they are not dreaming about guys - look at what they do? they compare themselves to others all the time, especially who is seeing who. every girl wants a relationship, as, they feel safe and socially accepted when they have a male with them, being a 'ball' if you will. do you know how frustrating it must be for them to see some guy like them, and it often doesn't matter if she likes him, she is available for conversation, yes? at least practice on her, make it a little joke to yourself to read her body language or something! go for it, or, keep dreaming...
 
Methusala said:
Well i have had a lot of time on my hands, but have thought a lot about the way women work, and have a ante in this being a human being and male. males understand what women show them, and, women when they are interested in men will show an image of how they think they will be received by the men. if the men like the women, due to beauty, composure or are desperate, they will need to approach them - this is natural in nature too - the man is the 'seeker' or cat, and the women is the 'ball' or mouse, yes? it is evident in every species that exists in our universe isn't it?

Now, to get a better chance of getting the ball you really want, you need to try to have a good first impression. this could be a enigmatic smile, a scent of deodorant, a nice physique, or a lot of other values that you may admire in yourself or they admire in you, or maybe even 'resources' position or respect/fame? there are so many ways to make a good first impression, just honestly choose your own method, okay? or, you could try to shock them to get their attention, yes?

So, you have chosen your 'ante' and eventually, you will use the one you find gets the best results all the time. your subconscious will choose for you, and you will get this message in an emotion that you will understand for yourself. then, you need to think of a 'line' if you will. flat out randomizing your 'ante'will result in something that you guess will be nice to hear, and it usually works, as a shock especially. the best lines are the ones you want to hear the answer to, like, i am new here, have you been here before, or, what is the time? anything you say to them should be a question, as then they feel like an oracle for a moment, basically, subconsciously. quoting someone else will result in familiarity with that person, and may trigger a giggle or something, hopefully she knows what you are talking about, yes?

If you have problem approaching the woman, say you are with peers that will see you fail, then you should try to look for somewhere else to do it, where you will not feel the disappointment that much. we men fear most not getting the things we really want, and instead of trying to get to heaven, pray to the devil to make it easier for our testes controlled emotions. this testes makes us aggressive to succeed, but, it will also make us socially more 'aware' of not being the alpha male, as, we are social creatures with peers that we need to fill our hearts with fiber of some sort. so, the best way to get the confidence, is to admit you really want her, and, think of other fish in the sea too - diversity!

The best way to do this with anyone is to look for 'interest' in you, by making eye contact! this will trigger a feeling, simply, of "is he looking at me?" by the woman, then, "oh my goodness, he is!" that will be followed by a third contact where you get your answer. this will be the safest way to do things. if she laughs at you, just accept that this ball is too far away, or, this ball is too 'sought after' for you to get. well, that is what she thinks! yeah...

So, identify your best features, improvise on your lines as otherwise the unexpected may happen and you will get 'rigid' or something, and use subtle ways of finding out if she is interested first.
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Dunno, I never really did any of that. I just did the "be myself" thing, and let gravity do the rest. :)
 
How to tell which person in a romantic relationship has the lesser (or no) love:

Generally speaking, the one with the lesser love is the one who makes the rules.
 
Just be yourself, and let the cards fall where they may. All pretenses eventually crumble anyway, and you'll be left with reality. May as well go ahead and see if reality works. :)
 
Logicman said:
How to tell which person in a romantic relationship has the lesser (or no) love:

Generally speaking, the one with the lesser love is the one who makes the rules.
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Or the one who is comfortable enough in their self to say "I yam what I yam, and you either take me as I yam.... or hit the road, Jack."
 
Goshin said:
Or the one who is comfortable enough in their self to say "I yam what I yam, and you either take me as I yam.... or hit the road, Jack."
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That's the same person who has the lesser love - the one who makes the rules.
 
Methusala said:
The women are waiting. they have very little else to do unless they are not dreaming about guys - look at what they do? they compare themselves to others all the time, especially who is seeing who. every girl wants a relationship, as, they feel safe and socially accepted when they have a male with them, being a 'ball' if you will. do you know how frustrating it must be for them to see some guy like them, and it often doesn't matter if she likes him, she is available for conversation, yes? at least practice on her, make it a little joke to yourself to read her body language or something! go for it, or, keep dreaming...
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:roll:

Women have plenty to do. Ya know, lives, dreams, friends, careers, things like that. Get over yourself -- you're just not that important. I suspect your belief that women are inanimate objects waiting to be grabbed might be the source of your problems and confusion.

Try just being a decent human being. Might go better for you.

Apparently what got my partner interested in me was all the weird things I know. My first foot forward, being the master of social dynamics that I am, was something about corpses.

:shrug:
 
You guys seem to like this thread, all it took was identifying something new that affects everyone somehow. thank you for participating!
 
Methusala said:
You guys seem to like this thread, all it took was identifying something new that affects everyone somehow. thank you for participating!
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Greetings, Methusala. :2wave:

Have an ornery streak, you do. >yoda :lamo:
 
Methusala said:
The women are waiting. they have very little else to do unless they are not dreaming about guys - look at what they do? they compare themselves to others all the time, especially who is seeing who. every girl wants a relationship, as, they feel safe and socially accepted when they have a male with them, being a 'ball' if you will. do you know how frustrating it must be for them to see some guy like them, and it often doesn't matter if she likes him, she is available for conversation, yes? at least practice on her, make it a little joke to yourself to read her body language or something! go for it, or, keep dreaming...
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I think you are way behind the times.
 
I often find that when people are having dating issues, it usually boils down to them LOOKING in the all the wrong places. Sorta like that song. Contrary to what you might think, bars and clubs are NOT where you should be trying to find a significant other. Your best bet is to find them while engaging in your various hobbies. College is a great place, because it's basically a bunch of people of similar interest all being mashed together. Are you in to cars? Got a ride of your own that you take to the track, or to shows? THAT'S were you cruise for the ladies or the guys. You've already broken the ice. Maybe you're an artist. Look for your dating pool to be at craft shows and galleries, etc. Or at the supply store, when you need new pastels or oil paints. Maybe you have dog? Maybe the dog park is where you're likely to find someone of similar weal.

I say this because when you meet people in bars and clubs, there is already an expectation. It's already more complicated than it needs to be. It's almost doomed to failure from the onset. You meet someone at the car show, and you're into them for other things before you even consider the added pressures of actual relationship, and sex.

It's good advice, you should take it, lol.
 
lizzie said:
Just be yourself, and let the cards fall where they may. All pretenses eventually crumble anyway, and you'll be left with reality. May as well go ahead and see if reality works. :)
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The trick is, to gradually become myself after putting up the pretense, boiling the frog so to speak.

I really don't care what the latest in pop culture is, but I can pretend for a few weeks
 
To make sex fun, well, let's start with contact! if you were to want to really break the ice between you and the women, you need to make bodily contact. this is because you both have 'comfort zones,' but after a bit of introduction, and a little goading this way and that, if you really want to know if she likes you, put your hand through her hair or something, saying there was something there! this is breaking the ice physically, and only 'players' seem to do this. but, you can too, it is really rolling the dice! you could end up slapped, but, if you don't you will feel awkward at least, and a bit stiff.

So, if you were to establish eye contact, then you need to do some talking and posing and preening, then you need to touch her eventually, so, put some covers on it? this will make her smile if she likes you, or, make her a little defensive if she thinks you are joking or something - you will either feel a connection, or you won't. don't do it twice though, go slowly, as a woman feels like a confidant often, someone to listen to her, to make her feel special. this is genetic i am sure.

Then, onto the first kiss! yes! if you were to do the first steps, you will be able to make your move. after you touch her, get some feed back on how she feels about this if it is a public area, or ask her to go with you somewhere, somewhere private, yes? i think all women like to dream away privately, so, you will take the avatar of her dream guy in her mind, i hope. you will fill her with a sense of being i think...

Now! time for the kissy... if you were to have touched her already, you can ask immediately if they want to get out of there, and they might go with you. if they do, a new scene, a new bit of contact, think something gentle up, something a little less subtle. then, think up something that you were talking about, and ask her a question as if it were a new line, and, then make her feel as if you have listened to her even if you haven't.

All set up. move in! go for it! yes! :cool:
 
Goshin said:
Dunno, I never really did any of that. I just did the "be myself" thing, and let gravity do the rest. :)
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I think it's Patrick Coffin who says "Be yourself, everybody else is taken."
 
1st get eye contact. Whilst making sure that you are trying not to stare, although you will be a bit, watch the chosen girly for 10 minutes or so. Then when you know that she is aware of your interest walk over there and say the following;

Er,... Hello.. er...

Erm,... I just had to say; you look Spectacular/Wonderful/Fabulous/some other over the top compliment.

Er,, My mane is ___________ . I'm not good at this sort of thing, er,... hello,.. offer hand for hand shake. Physical contact is vital. Hopefully she tells you her name.

Then ask her questions about her for 10 minutes or until you get board. Whichever comes first. Then just when your eyes are starting to glaze over you really concentrate on the sentence she is saying and half way through you kiss her. Just a short couple of seconds. Then say, "oops, just had to, couldn't resist, you were saying; _______". She will be flustered but utterly impressed that you were listening to her; she was getting board as well. Once she has finished that sentence you can close for the proper snogg.

Your objective for the first meeting is her phone number with an agreement that you will call her to organize a date for a specific day. "I'll call you so we can sort something out for Wednesday night..". Just her phone number is only half a point.

The objective, which should be fairly understood by both of you, is that you are aiming to get into her knickers. Date 3 is the generally accepted if not then then it's never going to happen point. Christians or whatever may need more time. Don't end up with a female friend. Unless you want that more than a massive sex blast out. Your choice.

This technique was perfected by me over long years of drought. Never failed once I'd sorted it though. Use wisely.

Ladies;- If you want to get the man of your choice don't wait for him to make the first move. Use the above script exactly the same. Try not to take him to bed too quickly. If it's going to be a long term thing it is worth investing a little time into. Jumping into bed translates into the impression that it's more casual than serious. Which is fine if it's casual.

Good luck.

Once you have sorted your pulling technique you end up married and don't get to use this finely honed skill. It's frustrating.
 
lizzie said:
Just be yourself, and let the cards fall where they may. All pretenses eventually crumble anyway, and you'll be left with reality. May as well go ahead and see if reality works. :)
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Unless you're not the kind of guy that women are attracted to ... then be better.

Just be yourself is terrible advice to a wimpy creep for example (not saying the OP is that, just a general principle)
 
The best way to get a girl to date you is ask her on a date. If she says no, then don't date her.

Honestly, I have no idea how all of that works :p. I know I seem to be able to get dates, but I have no idea why.
 
RGacky3 said:
Unless you're not the kind of guy that women are attracted to ... then be better.

Just be yourself is terrible advice to a wimpy creep for example (not saying the OP is that, just a general principle)
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I don't think it's bad advice at all. If you can't be yourself, and if you have to pretend to be something you are not, it will eventually be evident, and the relationship will start to fall apart. I'd far rather have honesty and never have it get off the ground, than to have a relationship based on lies and false impressions, then have to deal with the pain, when there's much more than just an initial interest at stake. When a long term relationship falls apart, it's hell.
 
lizzie said:
I don't think it's bad advice at all. If you can't be yourself, and if you have to pretend to be something you are not, it will eventually be evident, and the relationship will start to fall apart. I'd far rather have honesty and never have it get off the ground, than to have a relationship based on lies and false impressions, then have to deal with the pain, when there's much more than just an initial interest at stake. When a long term relationship falls apart, it's hell.
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There are some People that are not ready for a relationship, and need to work on themselves first ... there are some guys who have terrible social skills, are kind of creeps, or whatever, I think telling them "just be yourself" is not responsible, I'd tell them, try to learn how to talk to someone and not be a creep, or try be less selfish and so on.

It sounds Nice to say "just be yourself" until you start applying it to People With very bad traits.
 
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