Thread: Feminism

Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker

Becomes? Just what kind of porn do you think I watch? . . . you need to explore the darker side of the porn-net . . . you seem to be in the light.

I know that there is porn that depicts violence against men. It's called "femdom".

However, it's not nearly as popular as porn depicting violence against women, nor is it as violent as the latter.

Originally Posted by sangha

I know that there is porn that depicts violence against men. It's called "femdom".

However, it's not nearly as popular as porn depicting violence against women, nor is it as violent as the latter.

I wouldn't know "popular" because I just watch for myself - no one else. . . it's not like I have a group of underground friends adn we all sit and watch together lol

But - there are definitely more men who engage in porn in general than women . . . of course a lot of women like it like I do - but not as many as men . . . so I just don't see the point in trying ot equate it - it's not like a large number of men are going to start watching femdom to even the playing field . . . though some do. Now - per the more 'fetish' porn involving women: I like that too. Sometimes guys can ruin a good porn shoot and sometimes they improve it - depends . . . they're sideline either way if they're there at all.

Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker

I wouldn't know "popular" because I just watch for myself - no one else. . . it's not like I have a group of underground friends adn we all sit and watch together lol

But - there are definitely more men who engage in porn in general than women . . . of course a lot of women like it like I do - but not as many as men . . . so I just don't see the point in trying ot equate it - it's not like a large number of men are going to start watching femdom to even the playing field . . . though some do. Now - per the more 'fetish' porn involving women: I like that too. Sometimes guys can ruin a good porn shoot and sometimes they improve it - depends . . . they're sideline either way if they're there at all.

Actually, I get the feeling that "femdom" porn is more popular with men (subs) than it is with women. My point is that porn depicting the abuse of women is more likely to be considered mainstream than porn depicting abuse against men (which is usually considered "fetish")

Walk into an adult video store (a well stocked one) and videos with titles that make it clear that the content contains some level of abuse against women are stocked right alongside the "softer", more mainline porn, while "femdom" porn is always kept in the "fetish" section

Originally Posted by sangha

Actually, I get the feeling that "femdom" porn is more popular with men (subs) than it is with women. My point is that porn depicting the abuse of women is more likely to be considered mainstream than porn depicting abuse against men (which is usually considered "fetish")

Walk into an adult video store (a well stocked one) and videos with titles that make it clear that the content contains some level of abuse against women are stocked right alongside the "softer", more mainline porn, while "femdom" porn is always kept in the "fetish" section

None of it is mainstream - it's all backroom. Mainstream is the professional industry - and none of that is 'domination' . . . maybe a shred of a hint of it is but that's just a little rough play.

Originally Posted by Wake

It is fact that there has been at least ONE feminist who has said "X." That is as absolute as the fire statement.

And that's fine.

If the statement is absolutely obvious, it shouldn't have to be proved.

Well, yes, it should. Even "obvious" things can be wrong.

We know bigfoots don't exist, in that we have not seen them,

We don't know they don't exist. We're pretty sure. Some people say they've seen them, it's just that the evidence isn't credible enough. But that's quibbling.

but we do know feminists exist, as well as radical feminists.

My large point, now that we can get to it, is that we hear all these claims about feminists saying this and that, but it seems to be blown way out of proportion.

Originally Posted by sangha

Actually, I get the feeling that "femdom" porn is more popular with men (subs) than it is with women. My point is that porn depicting the abuse of women is more likely to be considered mainstream than porn depicting abuse against men (which is usually considered "fetish")

Walk into an adult video store (a well stocked one) and videos with titles that make it clear that the content contains some level of abuse against women are stocked right alongside the "softer", more mainline porn, while "femdom" porn is always kept in the "fetish" section

Maybe. But I think that's just a reflection of the fact that most porn is targeted toward men in the first place (though that's changing fast).

Originally Posted by sangha

I'll start worrying about "extreme feminism" when porn depicting extreme violence against men becomes as popular as porn depicting extreme violence against women

How does that follow?

Is it somehow a fair and just society when we like to watch men getting whipped an equal number of minutes as we like to watch women getting whipped?

I think it's a huge mistake to use porn to judge society. It's sex. It's not rational, it doesn't necessarily reflect how we think or live in the real world. It's fantasy.

Girl on girl porn rocks. End thread.

Originally Posted by Gipper

Girl on girl porn rocks. End thread.

Why do you get off on that? I never understood that. I never hear women saying they get off on man on man porn. Why do you get off on lesbian porn?

Originally Posted by misterman

Well, yes, it should. Even "obvious" things can be wrong.

My large point, now that we can get to it, is that we hear all these claims about feminists saying this and that, but it seems to be blown way out of proportion.

Hm, I think obvious statements needn't be proven. For example, water is wet, so it needn't be proven. If I say black people do exist, then that should be accepted as absolute truth because indeed, they do exist. When I use a qualifier, I think think that's the de facto correct way of applying logic. To use a qualifier is to not use absolutes, which, imo, is the better way of debating.

There are actually quite a bit more quotes than you'd imagine, and newer ones as well. Now that I had a bit more time to research it, I've actually found a few current [radical feminist] groups. But that's beside the point..