Gardener

A premature assessment, that, by the looks of it.

O.K.. My opinion about debates is that they are only as good as the arbiters of such, and since I do not trust the ability of most people to separate their own views from their ability to judge the debate, I imagine it only boil down to who agreed rather than who did the better job debating. Especially inasmuch as most of these would involve polar opposites, then most of those judging the debates are already predisposed towards one or the other.

Who here is impartial enough to judge?

billybobama

Trying to sound smart is not the answer. Debates should be done with facts and not opinions. Opinions are like elbows. We all got em. But facts stand on their own.

Goobieman

The result isn't -- Bush was inaugarated as President.

But if you want to discuss, specifically, the specifics of the SCotUS decisions regarding the FL election, I'm up for it.

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Caine

Yeah... and he will stop.... soooon.....



Well, this is the very reason why I try hard to find topics that are a little less partisan and more up to general opinion. Topics that deal with impeachment of bush v no impeachment, Or Bush this... Bush that... Bush this... Neocon that... etc....

I try to choose topics that people's opinions are variable depending on factors in their own lifestyles, etc. However, I do realize that even in those topics, debates can be judged based upon agreement rather than who did a better job of actually debating.

However, there are some of those on this forum that can recognize when someone who they might agree on didn't debate as well and articulate their positions as well as the debator that didn't necessarily argue the point they agree with. There are some, and those are usually the ones that already participate in true debates anyways.

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Caine

Yes... they should be done with facts and intelligent articulation of how those facts portray their point in the debate.

However, Even though I can recognize when this has been done... Im not good at doing it myself....lol

niftydrifty

The "resutil" is debatable. Obviously, questionable things happened, which led to, and "resultiled" in, the debatable "resutil." The thing, it appears, we wish to debate.

Or, er, did you mean a result isn't a "resutil?" I already knew that. But I'm playing along.

Absolutely. The decisions which rendered the resutil debatable.

Caine, looks like we got some interest in another true debate here. Goobiema just volunteered for another extreme whoopin'.

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Goobieman

Well, since you think there are debatable things, you can start the conversation. Format is negotiable, but I'm pretty easy.

Remember that we are discussing the specifics of the SCotUS decisions regarding the FL election.

niftydrifty

Goobiema, obviously, the conversation has already started. And it seems that you consider "there" (sic) a debatable thing, since you yourself proposed it as a debate topic. Furthermore, there were dissenting opinions, no? Begin Civics lesson: The SCOTUS is made up of more than one person. End, Civics lesson.

I will take a position that the prevailing decision from the SCotsUS (sic) was not sound and that the "resutil" of the election was not legitimate.

I don't start true debates. We'll wait until the next round.

Goobieman

Yes it is.
And a SCotUS vote of 7-2 means...?
Oh wait -- you didnt get that far in your civics education?
Hmmm. Oh well.

Good luck with that -- and if you're going to continue to harp on a typo, I'll figure you're just doing this to be an arse and ignore you.

niftydrifty

Uh, Goobiema, this is the lack of interest in the true debates thread. Remember that we will be discussing the specifics of the SCotUS decisions regarding the FL election. Remember that you have agreed to discuss this topic in a true debate. Remember that we will wait until the next round starts. An appeal to numbers is a logical fallacy. Remember to familiarize yourself with those.