vauge

lol - you definitely could not prove it. The existence of God simply cannot be proven. We can create theories all day long and it will get us no where.

I have a set of testicles. I can hold them in my hand (*barely mind you*). I know they are real.

God on the other hand I cannot touch or see or feel or smell. The only solution is that it is a figment of imagination. Why else would there be 10,000 different denominations worshipping the same god?

If I got hit on the head - I too could claim that God spoke to me.

Equally there is no link between God and reality.

tecoyah

Reality is subjective, according to accepted Quantum theory. And so therefore, is individual understanding of its existance....Mine just happens to see something your reality misses.

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vauge

This was your challenge and your burden of proof.

According the SAME theory you just mentioned it also states that we can *create* our own reality. Therefore you have created your own God which does not exist. Within that same theory we do not even exist.

/score

tecoyah

But to ME...this god exists....and you are not relevant to my reality....now are you. The reality we call GOD does not in any way require the belief of another. And it seems, is counter to such a thing. My God is not the same as yours....and cannot possibly be. Individual interpretaion of "That Which Is", forms the basis of faith, and such understanding of this force is as unique as you and I....yet it is obviously there. Those that deny something beyond themselves are plainly Lying...or not enlightened enough to open the mind. Neither of which change the reality I live in....Thus God Exists to me.

I create reality by my existance
My reality includes a god
God exists because it is in my reality

you dont need to be in agreement...this is fact to me.

vauge

You have yet to prove to me that he exists even in your world or your reality. Of which already stated that he does not exist at all according to the Quantium physics theory.

You're burden of proof was to prove to me that there is a God.

In order for your claim to have merit it must exist in my world - my reality.

Is Batman real? No? Well he is to me.
What a cop out.

tecoyah

Does the pyramid at gaiza exist....have you seen it firsthand?

What about the Panama Canal....Been there?

I have not been to either....yet I sincerely believe they exist. I have not seen the hand of God move mountains, nor pluck a kitten from a tree....yet I can still believe in it. Do you consider empirical evidence a requirement for all things real? Or are there aspects of this world that you might accept....simply because they seem....right?

My point is, I do not need to prove TO YOU the existance of a god....that is not the intent. My mission is to prove that I can believe in a God.....regardless of you. There is nothing anyone can do to change your own reality,short of hard Data, and intellectual prowess on your part. But that is not required to prove the existance of God.

Quite simply put....if its real to me...it's real....period.

vauge

Above is the unequivocal goals of this debate.

See above.

No one is immune to interpretation of what is perceived as God. However, in order to prove it - that interpretation has to make sense to the other debater.

Holy score Batman - I think I made a touchdown.

tecoyah

Very well....your turn at bat:


Prove to me there Is No God


Should be relatively easy....shouldn't it?

vauge

There has been no evidence to date that God exists.

One cannot prove a negative - that is extreamly hard to do.

tecoyah

So....neither of us can actually prove our side.....back to the staus quo


Sorry God....I tried