True debate week 1-Rule thread

[tecoyah]

True debate week 1-Rule thread

Here is a place for Nifty, and ToT to hash out details on this debate, as far as rules and format. Once decided this thread will be deleted, and the debate started.

You Two Have until Dec. 31st....to set the parameters. If you require a Moderator for questions....let me know. Member suggestions are likely,and certainly not forbidden....but in the end these two decide.

[niftydrifty]

thanks tecoyah.

I will be out of town between today and saturday. so I'll hash out some detailed stuff this weekend and post it. TOT, if you want to start with some ideas, please go ahead.

but let me say this to begin with. a debate on impeachment cannot resemble a trial. what kind of fantasy world would we be living in if any one of us were to think that Bush and Cheney would come to this website and testify? that ain't gonna happen! we can't have an impeachment trial.

so the best we could hope for, in my opinion, would me to state how:

1. it appears that Bush (and Co.) did it
-or-
Bush and Co said they did it
2. "it" qualifies as "treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors."

I would state when and how "it" happened, and what "it" was, and why "it" is impeachable.

You, TOT, would state why "it" didn't happen, why "it" isn't impeachable, or why I might be wrong about "it," etc.

how many "it"s are there? how about if I list 3? TOT must refute all 3.

[tecoyah]

Originally Posted by niftydrifty

thanks tecoyah.

I will be out of town between today and saturday. so I'll hash out some detailed stuff this weekend and post it. TOT, if you want to start with some ideas, please go ahead.

but let me say this to begin with. a debate on impeachment cannot resemble a trial. what kind of fantasy world would we be living in if any one of us were to think that Bush and Cheney would come to this website and testify? that ain't gonna happen! we can't have an impeachment trial.

so the best we could hope for, in my opinion, would me to state how:

1. it appears that Bush (and Co.) did it
-or-
Bush and Co said they did it
2. "it" qualifies as "treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors."

I would state when and how "it" happened, and what "it" was, and why "it" is impeachable.

You, TOT, would state why "it" didn't happen, why "it" isn't impeachable, or why I might be wrong about "it," etc.

how many "it"s are there? how about if I list 3? TOT must refute all 3.

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[tecoyah]

ok guys....set your parameters....I will start a thread on Jan. 1st based on what you decide.

[niftydrifty]

hi tecoyah,
was my earlier post lost? I typed a bunch of stuff and received a message that you needed to approve my post.

[vauge]

Permissions for forum was setup incorrectly for the older True Debate System.
Should work ok now.

Sorry about that.

[niftydrifty]

ok, I'd like to propose a structure.

seeing as how TOT is defending the Bush administration, it only makes since that I must begin the debate and TOT will follow. I'm not sure how we could do this one with questions from tecoyah, to each of us. this is merely a proposal. I'm open to other suggestions.

the combatants are limited to a posting structure consisting of the following sections:

I. Tue 1/2 niftydrifty's argument

II. Wed 1/3 TOT rebuttal

III. Thu 1/4 niftydrifty counter-rebuttal

IV. Fri 1/5 TOT's final word

the above schedule are deadlines. it is allowable to post early. but if the scheduled section is not posted by midnight at the end of the specified day, the tardy combatant forfeits the debate.

there is no limit to the length of each posted section. it can be as long as we need it to be.

in section I, I will state the alleged offenses committed by the Bush administration that are impeachable. this will not be a debate about whether Bush should, could, will or won't be impeached, this will be a debate about whether or not the Bush administration seems to have done anything that is impeachable, as suggested by the evidence that niftydrifty will present.