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    BP Spill : The truth of the situation

    Now, I'm going to start this off by saying that this is a serious post, and I will report anyone that's detracting from the conversation... make the jokes in the 9-11 thread... this takes precedence now anyway....

    This is a conversation with Alex jones that I'll be linking to, but for the sake of argument pretend that he's NOT on the Alex Jones show and only pay attention to the words of this man.

    In the times I've seen him predict oil prices with a surprising accuracy, and the results were as he described. This man wrote a book about his experiences with the oil company where the source of his information, his source, 'Mr X' is a former ceo of one of the top 3 oil companies in the world, he is a globalist, and he tells him their plans and what amount of those plans he can reveal to the public.... the prospect being that even telling the people will not change the outcome.

    Now, about the BP oil spill I'll summarize this hour and a half discussion from Lindsey Williams, author of 'the energy non-crisis'.

    No, in the response, let's discuss this in terms of the actual oil spill... please. If you disagree with this analysis please explain it in detail... I only put it in this thread because it would likely get kicked here anyway.

    "This is a super-mega disaster the likes of which the world has ever experienced, and the pressures were so extreme"

    "This was absolutely not terrorism, this was an accident. They are scared."

    "The oil is ABSOLUTELY NOT the great danger. ABSOLUTELY NOT. It's what comes up WITH the oil that is deadly."

    "Mr X said that the only solution would be to diagonal drill into the same strata, drop a nuclear device and set it off. If the plan works and the hole is cauterized we'll be the saviors of the world, if it's not and it opens other fissures then it will be the greatest disaster mankind has ever experienced."

    "In 1970, the Russians have struck oil at the record depths of 4230 ft, Russia and it's major oil company has drilled 310 ST3 wells, it's now surpassing saudia arabia in oil production since last year. What they found was called "abiotic oil" and it is NOT a fossil fuel, it is a result of the reactions going on deep within the earth. The textbooks on oil production will have to be re-written. There is no such thing as peak oil. Russia had sense enough to drill these wells ON LAND... NOT in the gulf of mexico."

    "BP, a non-american company, was so stupid as to drill so deep, offshore, on a floating platform, that is kept in place with sophisticated GPS equipment. On top of ocean sitting 5000ft deep. Then they began their drilling 25-30000 ft deep... a super-deep well. They hit something so big that they could not contain it. It was much worse then they ever thought."

    "They hit a strata of oil at such high pressure that it burst ALL of their safety valves, the pressure they hit is beyond human means to contain it."

    "The BP oil well has announced a very different pressure result then they had actually mesured. 1500PSI is considered a good well-head pressure. They hit between 20 000-70 000 PSI of well-head pressure. It's now releasing up to 4 MILLION barrels per day."

    "NOAA, Chris baltimore, Houston, "US experts investigate reports of underseas oil plumes emanating from BPs stricken well,in the gulf of mexico concerned the presence below the surface, NOAA is confirming the presence of subsurface oil, and underseas plumes 20 miles away."

    "The stuff you call oil only destroys the coastline, what's coming out with the oil is killing humans and unborn children, from the EPA this week, the tests found that the most toxic compounds are in there...
    - volatile organic compounds in the air
    - hydrogen sulfide : allowable 5-10 parts per Billion tested in the gulf : 1200 PPB
    - Benzyne :TOXIC safe level 0-4ppb tested : 3000ppb This can cause leukemia, among a whole host of issues.
    - Mythlene-Chloride : safe level 61ppb tested : 3000-3400 ppb"

    *****"He told me "The only way I can see to stop this is a nuke, BUT, a nuke This strata of oil is so deep that noone has ever drilled into before, and because of the extreme pressure that's already there nothing man-made can close the fissure, and it would take months because of the angle drilling to the main fissure... but if we use a nuke and it works we will saviors of the world, but if we do nuke that strata and it opens more fissures, it will pour that same level or more oil forever and nobody will ever be able to close it untill it's empty."********

    "You will NOT see this well capped in the near future."

    "Obama will get across every aspect of his plan to turn america into a socialistic nation. Including his carbon tax." "Oil companies will be nationalized." "Airlines will go bankrupt" "You will see gas prices of 6-8$/gallon if they stop offshore oil drilling... SOON."

    "If they nuke it and it doesn't work, they will never in the history of man be able to close it again."

    "America can simply NOT afford to stop drilling."

    "Fixed income and low-income people will no longer be able to drive because of the cost."

    "The BP oil spill may have an event of apocalyptic proportions', a report said Russian ministry of natural ressources 'Threatening the entire eastern half of american continent with total destruction'. "The worst environmental catastrophe in all of human history." - European union times reported, "Russian scientists believe bp is pumping millions of gallons of corexite 9500 a chemical dispersing agent under the gulf of mexico waters to hide the extent of the leak now estimated to be 2.9 million gallons per day. Experts say corexite 9500 is a solvent four times more toxic of oil. 2.61 ppm toxicity. In the warm water it's molecules will be able to phase transition into a gas that can mix can be absorbed by clouds and being released as toxic rain. Leading to unimaginable environmental catastrophe."

    "You might even see a full evacuation of Florida and much of the Gulf coast"

    "Because of the corrosiveness of oil, it could very easily arode the pipe, and if they wait a few more months there may not be any of the pipeline left."

    "The oil companies have no possible way to solve this, other then a nuke."

    This situation is turning out to be far more serious then it's even still being implied in the media, but if you want the full interview;
    YouTube - TheAlexJonesChannel's Channel

    But please... if you're going to disagree at least make it constructive and relevant for a discussion. This man talking has a track-record of his 'predictions'...

    But Let's hear the thoughts on this and the issue from your perspectives.
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    Re: BP Spill : The truth of the situation

    Is the information saying that BP was trying to drill 20-30,000 feet deep with this well? If this is so, I would think there would be somebody who has first-hand knowledge talking. That's not the kind of stuff that people will typically keep silent about.
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    Re: BP Spill : The truth of the situation

    The source is claimed as : "Mr X" a former CEO of one of the top 3 oil companies in the world, in a conversation that included a high level individual with BP.

    Honestly, that noone is coming out publicly and stating any of this, it means either this man is lying, or there is a media blackout, or that nobody knows accurately how deep beyond a few choice people... shifting workers around would produce that result of nobody truly knowing it's depth. It's whichever you believe... I only quoted the words of Lindsey Williams (or paraphrased closely), so... It's a safe bet that this information is accurate... but I couldn't PROVE IT beyond this man's words.

    His main prediction was that by the end of July you can probably expect gas prices around 6-8$/gallon if they halt offshore drilling, If / when this happens, will you give the man a bit of credit?? Because when oil prices were at 30-40$ he 'predicted' that oil prices would skyrocket to 150-250$/barrel.... it happened on it's cue and created the desired effect of being the catalyst for the economic bubble bursting inthe housing market, as well as bankrupting some of the oil producing middle eastern nations... and then was to follow by the price coming down to about 60-70$ / barrel and stabalizing .

    You may not believe this man, but I've seen his predictions come true on cue... I'll take his word as accurate, and the sentiment behind his words.
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    Re: BP Spill : The truth of the situation

    I'm not familiar with the guy, so I'm not accusing him of lying. It just seems like a pretty big accusation and high-level corruption, if it's the case. Thanks for the info. I'm not a believer nor a disbliever in stuff like this- I just like to explore the possibilities, and will say that nothing much could surprise me.
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    Re: BP Spill : The truth of the situation

    Here's a proper bio : The Energy Non-Crisis by Lindsey Williams

    I would also note that throughout the interview he urged people to use the proper vocabulary or anyone with any oil production experience would simply laugh it off.
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    Re: BP Spill : The truth of the situation

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    I'm not familiar with the guy, so I'm not accusing him of lying. It just seems like a pretty big accusation and high-level corruption, if it's the case. Thanks for the info. I'm not a believer nor a disbliever in stuff like this- I just like to explore the possibilities, and will say that nothing much could surprise me.
    Alex Jones?
    I'm familiar with him. He lives in my city. I've met him.
    He's a wingnut.
    I used to take him seriously... when I was younger and more gullible.

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    He is a bit of a nutjob... but you can essentially ignore Alex's statements in this interview for the purpose of this discussion. We can debate the legitimacy of Alex jones in another thread....
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    Re: BP Spill : The truth of the situation

    April 10, 2009 - Lindsey Williams: "Death of the dollar within the next 4 months"

    Lindsey Williams: Death of the Dollar within next four months

    How'd that work out for him?

    edit: also:
    Pastor Lindsey Williams goes on the Alex Jones show to reveal what he just found out from his Illuminati elite contact. Some of the points revealed:

    - Within 2 years you will not recognize America.
    - Massive inflation will kick in and escalate. The USD will die by 2012.
    - You can only rely on gold and silver.
    - Americans will become very poor.
    - War is planned after 2 years? Turmoil in the Middle East 2 years from now. World War 2 brought world out of depression.
    - The elite is speeding up their schedule for change: within 2 years.
    - Within 2 years: “The Devil’s Messiah” ?? Churches and many pastors are being corrupted. The Anti-Christ coming within 2 years??
    - Obama is in trouble.
    - Nearly everyone will be working for the government: Communism!
    Lindsey Williams: Within 2 Years You Will Not Recognize America! Dollar Will Die by 2012! Gold and Silver are All You Can Rely On! War is Planned! The Devil’s Messiah Within 2 Years??

    ****ing LOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    That was from April 2009... the ways in which what he said came true are about as scary as what hasn't come true...
    - Within 2 years you will not recognize America. - There's still about a year on this one...
    - Massive inflation will kick in and escalate. The USD will die by 2012. - You can only rely on gold and silver. : Gold in 2009 was floating around900-950$/oz. Now around 1200.
    - Americans will become very poor. : How many people have lost their jobs and are on, or out of unemployment benefits?
    - War is planned after 2 years? Turmoil in the Middle East 2 years from now. World War 2 brought world out of depression. : Look at the Mideast, particularly Israel, the koreas, and Iran,
    - The elite is speeding up their schedule for change: within 2 years. : Obama promised change, and he's delivered by passing legislation... within the next 2 years he MIGHT be able to ENACT that legislation.
    - Within 2 years: “The Devil’s Messiah” ?? Churches and many pastors are being corrupted. The Anti-Christ coming within 2 years?? : If you're a religious man you know the implications if this is true... look at the federalization of churches... 501(c)3 (I believe it is)
    - Obama is in trouble. : Obama's approuval rating is the lowest of any president this far in his term according to most every poll I've seen.
    - Nearly everyone will be working for the government: Communism! : Well, the merger between corporations and governments is called fascism, so yes I do disagree with Williams on that point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BmanMcfly View Post
    That was from April 2009... the ways in which what he said came true are about as scary as what hasn't come true...
    He said "death of the dollar within 4 months." It's been 14 months and the dollar has gone UP several percent.

    The rest is standard apocalyptic garbage, all either too general to be disproven or set far enough in the future that he hopes everyone will forget by then.

    He's a run of the mill lunatic.
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