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Real plane crashes compared to 9/11 flight 93's disappearing act.

This is the heart and soul of 9/11 and showing these disturbing statements from many prominant people is just a very small example of what MANY Americans are saying.

There needs to be a new and independent investigation into the biggest crime in the History of the U.S.

Wwll, since you are so convinced that you have the majority support from the American public ... how about testing that out ???

Here is a little experiment to try ... see the wee red cross in the top right hand corner of your screen ... click it ... go on ... and then go out into the real big, wide world.

Walk around, engage with other human beings ... look around you ... is there any sign of da twoof movement visible, are the streets full of people all conversing this important topic ...

My guess ... nope !!!

You see creative, da twoof movement, alongside all other fringe movements ... exists SOLELY on the internetz .. pepetuated on blogs and forums and no-where else really !!!

Oh! the odd bit of rapidly deminishing swreet action from, literally handfulls of disaffected yoof ...

That's it ... genuinely !!!
 
Wwll, since you are so convinced that you have the majority support from the American public ... how about testing that out ???

Here is a little experiment to try ... see the wee red cross in the top right hand corner of your screen ... click it ... go on ... and then go out into the real big, wide world.

Walk around, engage with other human beings ... look around you ... is there any sign of da twoof movement visible, are the streets full of people all conversing this important topic ...

My guess ... nope !!!

You see creative, da twoof movement, alongside all other fringe movements ... exists SOLELY on the internetz .. pepetuated on blogs and forums and no-where else really !!!

Oh! the odd bit of rapidly deminishing swreet action from, literally handfulls of disaffected yoof ...

That's it ... genuinely !!!


Actually recently I have been bringing up the subject with acquaintances around the community and I was very surprised how many people question the truth about 9/11....

Plus I can bring up many polls that show what a large portion of the American population doesn't believe the story for 9/11.
 
Actually recently I have been bringing up the subject with acquaintances around the community and I was very surprised how many people question the truth about 9/11....

Plus I can bring up many polls that show what a large portion of the American population doesn't believe the story for 9/11.

All they've been asking you to do is post credible links, which you've failed to do. You can cut and paste 3 pages of statements from people of seemingly high credentials, but that doesn't mean a thing until you provide a source where you got it.

I don't see how you haven't gotten this point yet.
 
Copying and pasting from a Truther site isn't a real source. There is no verification.
 
Actually recently I have been bringing up the subject with acquaintances around the community and I was very surprised how many people question the truth about 9/11....

Plus I can bring up many polls that show what a large portion of the American population doesn't believe the story for 9/11.

Without verification ... it is just (again) your unsupported opinion ... means nothing creative ... nothing !!!
 
These are all well documented and verified statements.

We'll in all your posts I missed a link to whatever sites you are copying and pasting. Could please post the llink/s of these sites with your posts?
 
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Without verification ... it is just (again) your unsupported opinion ... means nothing creative ... nothing !!!

You disinfo propaganda pushing *******!

You know darn well these are documented statements from a LEGITIMATE PETITION!
Why are you on a mission to sway votes against a new investigation?
 
I posted a site to a LEGITIMATE PETITION asking for a new 9/11 investigation.

On Truther site, without verification of important engineers or military officials. You give far too much credit to our government
 
We'll in all your posts I missed a link to whatever sites you are copying and pasting. Could please post the llink/s of these sites?

These are well documented statements of prominent people from legitimate petitions.


Engineers and Architects want new 9/11 investigation:
Patriots Question 9/11 - Engineers and Architects Question the 9/11 Commission Report

Military and Governmet Officials want new 9/11 investigation:
Patriots Question 9/11 - Responsible Criticism of the 9/11 Commission Report

Here are more I haven't even mentioned....

Pilots and Aviation Personal want new 9/11 investigation:
Patriots Question 9/11 - Responsible Criticism of the 9/11 Commission Report

Professors want new 9/11 investigation:
Patriots Question 9/11 - Responsible Criticism of the 9/11 Commission Report

Survivors of 9/11 want new investigation:
Patriots Question 9/11 - Responsible Criticism of the 9/11 Commission Report
 
I can come back with many more links to prominant people who don't believe the story for 9/11.....
 
I can come back with many more links to prominant people who don't believe the story for 9/11.....

The sites that you use as a source have an unfortunate history of misunderstanding things, exaggerating, and just making sh*t up. That is why noone here trusts them
 
You disinfo propaganda pushing *******!

You know darn well these are documented statements from a LEGITIMATE PETITION!
Why are you on a mission to sway votes against a new investigation?

Tsk tsk ... temper.

Erm creative ... it was a response to your personal statement !!!

Oh! and the legitamacy of the petition was never called into question, just like these other equally "legitimate" ones either ...

Petition to: legalize the smoking of hookah/shisha pipes in licensed cafes and bars. | Number10.gov.uk

Petition to: Turn this Nation back to God. | Number10.gov.uk

Petition to: Increase funding for Robotics with money from companies that do not provide employees with diverse and enjoyable work. | Number10.gov.uk

Petition to: Please support the Errection of a statue of Screaming Lord Sutch in Harrow. | Number10.gov.uk

Legitimate ... yes !!!

Pointless ... resounding yes !!!
 

Nice way to compare apples to oranges and try to minimize the MANY prominent people who want a new and independent investigation into 9/11.
 
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Nice way to compare apples to oranges and try to minimize the MANY prominent people who want a new and independent investigation into 9/11.

The entire site is in question Creative. We don't consider it a trustworthy source. I don't care if Jesus Christ is on the petition. It comes from a bad site. That's what Blue said
 
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The entire site is in question Creative. We don't consider it a trustworthy source. I don't care if Jesus Christ is on the petition. It comes from a bad site. That's what Blue said

You can contact every person that is documented....

One of the MOST common forms of denial is to attack the source of the information and IGNORE its contents.

Denial is all around us and I witness all stages of it while trying to present information.
 
You can contact every person that is documented....

One of the MOST common forms of denial is to attack the source of the information and IGNORE its contents.

Denial is all around us and I witness all stages of it while trying to present information.

No, creative ... it is your assertion that they are credible ... the onus is on you to prove it !!!

You contact them and find out whether they still stand by those remarks ... after all some of those statements are years old and they may no longer hold the same belief ... and there may be some may no longer even be with us ... well, there are an inordinate amount of "retired" on there !!!
 
You can contact every person that is documented....

One of the MOST common forms of denial is to attack the source of the information and IGNORE its contents.

Denial is all around us and I witness all stages of it while trying to present information.

The site itself is in question, because it isn't trustworthy. You show denial yourself whenever I post links destroying your arguments
 
Nice way to compare apples to oranges and try to minimize the MANY prominent people who want a new and independent investigation into 9/11.

You still don't get it, do you ... many can be wrong !!!

Just because SOME (now let's be clear here creative ... the sum total of signatures to all the various disparate little petitions is still just a tiny, tiny tiny percentage of the American, never mind, world population) question something or wish a new investigation is NOT enough.

For your side to have ANY chance of gaining this ... you NEED to demonstrate massive ... majority support.

After 8 years AE911Truth (which is the most known one so lets stick to them, for simplicity ... and also as believers will undoubtably sign multiple petitions, so that lessens the amount of totally unique signatures) ... after 8 years this group has managed the astounding feat of having LESS than ONE THOUSAND supposed architects and engineers (even software ones :roll: )sign that petition !!!

To date ONLY 970 ...

Now, just as a devils advocate excersise ... from that 970, undoubtably some ... lets make it a conservative dozen will be, either (like me) testing their standards or just trying fraudulently to artificially boost their level of professional support by claiming qualifications in architecture or engineering they do not possess.

I suspect it is more than 12 ... but in any case that leaves just 958 ... in EIGHT years.

How come it is not more ... how come architects and engineers are not joining that group in droves ... how come they cannot entice the vast majority of architects and engineers to sign ???

After all they "claim" to have mountains of evidence ... evidence that is so simple to see that a child could understand it.

Evidence that is overwhelming ... evidence that shows that the laws of physics were broken that day ...

So why dont they have the major support of the world wide relevant communities ???

Why haven't that group presented and published that information in the relevant institutes and Journals ... there are hundreds to choose from ...

There are 123,000 members of ASCE (American Society of Civil Engineers) .

There are 80,000 members of AIA (American Institute of Architects)

There are 120,000 members of ASME (American Society of Mechanical Engineers)

There are 370,000 members of IEEE (Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers)

There are 40,000 members of AIChE (American Institute of Chemical Engineers)

There are also 35,000 members of AIAA (American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics)

So there you have it ... JUST in America ... you have 765,000.

SEVEN HUNDRED AND SIXTY FIVE THOUSAND members of just some of the relevant Institutes ... try find out how many have joined the aforementioned group ... go on !!!

And what about outwith the US ... there are millions ... so WHY don't AE911 have huge support ???

It's not like they are quiet about promoting their position ... they are all over the net !!!

So why at they taking the snail pace route of appealing to a mostly still angsty youth following ... and not following the most likely method of guaranteeing success ... and presenting SCIENCE to, you know ... SCIENTISTS ???

Maybe because they know that they would utterly and absolutely fail ... and don't forget they still need the faithful to fund Gage and his gaggle Australasia holiday, oops! tour ... that can't be cheap !!!

WHY hasen't Gage used that money to fund independant scientific research ... that would get them further !!!

creative AE911Truth are just a bunch of shysters ... and way, way, way deep inside of yourself ... in that part of yourself you don't want to admit exists ... you know it !!!
 
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