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Who made Dr Bruce Ivins take his own life?

Dr Bruce Ivins is dead. Who would want his death, huh?

In case you don't know, who the hell is that guy, he is a US bio-defence expert who stood behind anthrax-contaminated letters that killed five people. So, why did he commit such a surprising suicide only two days before he had to come up for trial?

Close friends and relatives of Dr Ivins accuse the FBI of hounding him to his death. I'm sure it is the case! He was a witness of creation of new types of inhumane biological-warfare weapon in US secret biological laboratories, including selective biological weapons that affect people depending on their ethnicity (this one is expected to be used against China). The FBI feared that Dr Ivins might cut the bag open at court and decided to wipe him out. Was it a real suicide or the FBI agents "helped" him die, we'll never know.
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Re: Who made Dr Bruce Ivins take his own life?

shouldnt this be in the CONSPIRACY THEORY SECTION

not to mention you need to include a link to an actual news story to post here
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Dr Bruce Ivins is dead. Who would want his death, huh?

In case you don't know, who the hell is that guy, he is a US bio-defence expert who stood behind anthrax-contaminated letters that killed five people. So, why did he commit such a surprising suicide only two days before he had to come up for trial?

Close friends and relatives of Dr Ivins accuse the FBI of hounding him to his death. I'm sure it is the case! He was a witness of creation of new types of inhumane biological-warfare weapon in US secret biological laboratories, including selective biological weapons that affect people depending on their ethnicity (this one is expected to be used against China). The FBI feared that Dr Ivins might cut the bag open at court and decided to wipe him out. Was it a real suicide or the FBI agents "helped" him die, we'll never know.
This should go in the CONSPIRACY THEORY category.

I guess you have reasons for feeling so sure about this being the case.

Would you mind sharing them with all of us here, please?

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Dr Bruce Ivins is dead. Who would want his death, huh?

In case you don't know, who the hell is that guy, he is a US bio-defence expert who stood behind anthrax-contaminated letters that killed five people. So, why did he commit such a surprising suicide only two days before he had to come up for trial?

Close friends and relatives of Dr Ivins accuse the FBI of hounding him to his death. I'm sure it is the case! He was a witness of creation of new types of inhumane biological-warfare weapon in US secret biological laboratories, including selective biological weapons that affect people depending on their ethnicity (this one is expected to be used against China). The FBI feared that Dr Ivins might cut the bag open at court and decided to wipe him out. Was it a real suicide or the FBI agents "helped" him die, we'll never know.
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This is the guy's first post, and you are already slamming Lamont, in a personal attack that has nothing to do with his question raised about a suicide of a shy, non-self-agrandizing guy. who most certainly would not have acted alone in the Anthrax scare of 2001. There are strong suspicions that 9-11-01 was orchestrated by pre-9-11 Iraq War Planners. The questions have not been answered to my satisfaction.

So is it your asertion that Bruce Irvin acted alone? That questions of lone conspirators have never been raised before? You are saying the US law enforcement authorities don't find it more convenient to blame a single actor?

I raised the questions about Bruce Irvin's suicide in an earlier thread on Conspiracy Theories, 6 hours after the story broke.

http://www.debatepolitics.com/conspi...questions.html

Questioning whether Bruce Irvin acted alone, and the role of Law enforcement in furthering a single conspirator theory, is responsible thinking for an individual thinking person.

The idea that Pre-9-11 Iraq war planners may have contrived to bring down the WTC Towers 1. 2 and 7, with Termite/Thermate, forged a CIA letter to implicate Sadam Hussein, slanted the Presidential News spokesman and otherwise triecd to snooker the American Public into War with Iraq bears consideration, and honest Debate.

CIA Forged Iraq Intelligence, New Book Says


"Ron Suskind, author of "The Price of Loyalty" and "The One Percent Doctrine," is out with a new book that includes CIA forgery of pre-war intelligence, the Politico reports:"




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they brought down the towers with termites
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they brought down the towers with termites
I now remember that Anthrax was the cornerstone of the War in Iraq. US Scretary of State gave a UN speeach where he appeared to threaten to release Anthrax in the UN General Assembly.

Saddam Hussein had no idea that not keeping the records of the Anthrax destruction in Iraq, would be his demise.


A Tiny Revolution: Anthrax And The Iraq War


Colin Powell felt he was tricked by Bush and the pre-9-11 Iraq War Planners. Is is possible that there was a deliberte plan to steal or destroy Iraq'a records of destroying their Anthrax? How much would it take to bribe an Iraq Official to hand over the destruction of Anthrax records? That Iraq official would have had no idea of the chain of events to follow.

Once the pre-9-11 Iraq War planners had made sure that the Iraq Anthrax destruction records were not available, or were destroyed, Then it was important to create an Anthrax Scare, so the missing records of the Iraq Anthrax destruction could be exaggerated into some big deal!

Bruce Ivins was a key player in the Pre-9-11 Iraq war planning scheme. Without the 2001 Anthrax scare in the US, Colin Powells speech would not have had as much effect on World Opinion.

Connect the Dots. What a different picture of cause and effect.

"ANTHRAX: Powell noted Iraq had declared it produced 8,500 liters of the biological agent anthrax before 1991. None has been "verifiably accounted for," he said.

No anthrax has been reported found, post-invasion. The Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA), in a confidential report last September (five months before the Powell speech) said that although it believed Iraq had biological weapons it didn't know their nature, amounts, or condition."


AP Staffer Fact-Checks Powell's UN Speech


"Anthrax

Powell noted Iraq had declared it produced 8,500 liters of the biological agent anthrax before 1991, but U.N. inspectors estimated it could have made up to 25,000 liters. None has been "verifiably accounted for," he said.

No anthrax has been reported found.

The Defense Intelligence Agency, or DIA, in a confidential report last September, recently disclosed, said that although it believed Iraq had biological weapons, it didn't know their nature, amounts or condition.

Three weeks before the invasion, an Iraqi report of scientific soil sampling supported the regime's contention that it had destroyed its anthrax stocks at a known site, the U.N. inspection agency said May 30. Iraq also presented a list of witnesses to verify amounts, the agency said. It was too late for inspectors to interview them; the war soon began."

Powell's Case for Iraq War Falls Apart 6 Months Later





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