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9/11 being an inside job : http://www.pentagonstrike.co.uk/pentagon.swf

What r yr views after seeing this video? Do u think 9/11 is an inside job? What about the views brought up by Michael Moore in his movie Fahrenheit 9/11? How many agree that 9/11 is an inside job based on his movie? Many also speculate (even architectural and civil engineers who agree it is not possible for 2 planes to bring down 3 towers, and that they were bombed from within. What do u think of this allegation? Any truth in it? How many would trust the US government after all this? How many think there is a massive cover-up in 9/11? What would be the agenda if this is true that 9/11 is an inside job by the US government? Was it all to facilitate the Iraq war for Bush's purposes?

(Not sure if this topic was posted b4, let me know if it was, I am pretty new here.)

Fahrenheit 9/11 Link : Fahrenheit 9/11 (2004)

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mikhail

No no and no.

Of course 2 planes can bring down 3 buildings i dont see the problem with that.

As for the idea of there being bombs in the buildings bombs capeable of doing that are loud this is one thing they never mention there was no bomb sound.

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Hugh_Akston

WOW, not another 9/11 conspiracy nutcase - please. This has all been debunked over and over and over again. Why rehash it for the 10,000th time?

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Some facts about the 9/11 Commission:

Congress and the President chose the Commission. The President hand picked Philip Zelikow to head the whole thing.

Many of those required to testify are CFR, and PNAC. So are some of the Commissioners.

The 9/11 Commission Members

Philip D. Zelikow – Executive Director
Christopher Kojm - Deputy Executive Director
Daniel Marcus - General Legal Counsel
Janice Kephart – Legal Counsel
Al Felzenberg - Spokesman

Thomas Kean – Chairman (R)
Lee Hamilton – Vice Chairman (D)

Commissioners

Richard Ben-Veniste (D)
Fred Fielding (R)
Jamie Gorelick (D)
Slade Gorton (R)
Bob Kerrey (D)
John Lehman (R)
Timothy Roemer (D)
James Thompson (R)

Philip D. Zelikow – Executive Director

He set the agenda, and chose the areas to investigate.

• He and Condi Rice (CFR) worked very closely together under National Security Advisor Brent Scowcroft (CFR) in the first Bush Administration. Rice hired him in 1989, and they both left in 1991.

• After the White House, Rice and Zelikow wrote a book together.

• Zelikow headed the Aspen Strategy Group, of which Scowcroft co-chaired. Rice, Cheney, and Wolfowitz (all CFR) were members

• Zelikow worked on Bush’s team to smooth the Clinton handover in terms of intelligence and to help formulate national security policy. He would be directly involved with information regarding Al Qaeda.

• He was the principal author of the NSS 2002, which was the seminal document for the Bush-Cheney foreign policy after 9/11.

Daniel Marcus - General Legal Counsel

• Daniel Marcus, was partner in Wilmer, Cutler & Pickering, which represents Prince Mohammed al Faisal, also identified as one of the top three alleged financiers of the 9/11 attacks, according to the Bush Administration.

Al Felzenberg – Spokesman

• He was a member of Rumsfeld’s “team” at the Department of Defence.

• He was executive director of Bush Sr’s Commission on the Federal Appointments Process.

Thomas Kean – Chairman (R)

Former Governor of New Jersey.

• Member of the CFR.

• Hehas a history of investments that link him to Saudi Arabian investors who have financially supported both George W. Bush and Osama bin Laden in the past

• His dealings have also included Khalid Bin Mahfouz, and Mohammed Hussein al Amoudi, 2 of the alleged financiers of the 9/11 attacks.

Lee Hamilton – Vice Chairman (D)

Former U.S. Representative.

• Member of the CFR.

• Lee Hamilton sits on many advisory boards, including those to the CIA, the President's Homeland Security Advisory Council, The United States Commission on National Security, and the US Army.

Richard Ben-Veniste (D)

Attorney and former chief of the Watergate.

• Ben-Veniste was partner in Weil, Gotshal, and Manges, which managed to have $200 million in fees secured by a court when Enron filed for bankruptcy in 2001.

• Richard Ben-Veniste has represented Democratic National Chairman Terry McAuliffe, who currently serves as Chairman of the Hillary Clinton for President committee.

• He represents Boeing and United Airlines

Fred Fielding (R)

Attorney and former White House Counsel.

• Fielding is a former White House Counsel during the Reagan/Bush administration at the time of the Iran Contra scandal.

• He was also counsel during the Bush-Cheney presidential transition. He is closely connected through personal ties to several members of the current Bush team.

• Fielding has done legal work for two of Bush's leading "Pioneer" fund-raisers.

• He also works for a law firm lobbying for Spirit Airlines and United Airlines.

Jamie Gorelick (D)

Deputy Attorney General in the Clinton Administration.

• Member of the CFR.

• She serves on the CIA's National Security Advisory Panel. Gorelick has a close working relationship with CIA Director George Tenet.

• She also serves on the President's Review of Intelligence.

• While serving in the Department of Justice under Clinton, she developed the policy that prevented communication between the FBI and CIA. (the "wall memo").

• Gorelick is also on the board of United Technologies, a large military contractor. In 2005, it received over 5 billion dollars in military contracts

• Gorelick's firm has agreed to represent Prince Mohammed al Faisal – an alledged 9/11 financier.

Slade Gorton (R)

Former U.S. Senator from Washington.

• Slade Gorton has close ties to Boeing.

• His law firm represents several major airlines..

• Two days after the 9/11 attacks he told a public-television audience there was nothing government intelligence officials could have done to thwart the attack, according to the Seattle Times

John Lehman (R)

Former Secretary of the Navy.

• Member of the CFR & signatory of PNAC.

• During the Nixon Administration, he served as special counsel and senior staff member to Kissinger on the National Security Council –to whom he still has close ties.

• Former Secretary of the Navy under the Reagan/Bush Administration, with close personal ties to members of the current Bush Administration.

Timothy Roemer (D)

Former U.S. Representative.

• Roemer is a go-between the Commission, Homeland Security and the members of the intelligence committees of the House and Senate.

• Roemer represents Boeing and Lockheed Martin

James Thompson (R)

Former Governor of Illinois.

• James Thompson is the head of a law firm that lobbies for American Airlines, and he has previously represented United Airlines.

Henry Kissinger – Resigned under controversy for conflict of interest.

George Mitchell – Resigned under controversy for conflict of interest.

Max Cleland – He publicly complained about the White House’s refusal to cooperate. Bush appointed him head of the US Export/Import Bank, and he resigned from the commission. He has received $300,000 from the airline industry.


Cooperative Research
Scholars for 9/11 truth

The 9/11 Commission Report: Omissions and Distortions by David Ray Griffin

Without Precedent: The Inside Story of the 9/11 Commission by Thomas Kean and Lee Hamilton

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mikhail

Yea hollywood works the same way but that doesent mean hollywood actors are trying to blow up buildings.

In all industrys there is connections between people because people give jobs to their friends.

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Pull My Finger

I posted factual information. Interpret it as you wish.

Interesting analogy though...

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partier9

what part of planes flying into buildings didn't you understand

its really quite simple, the planes crashed into the world trade centers, when they crashed they weakened the support beams, then the towers fell.


NIST's Investigation of the Sept. 11 World Trade Center Disaster - Frequently Asked Questions

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Bodhisattva

Sorry, I stopped reading after I saw the "r yr" crap.
I skimmed down and saw a "u" and a B4" and just shut off the rest as I

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conquer

I guess that the release of the other films recorded by cameras around the Pentagon cannot be possible because the airline company has paid a lolt of money to keep them out of the media...they try to stop others to recognize the airplane's plate numbers and avoid the traffic ticket...

Trinity

Alright, but noone has addressed the points made by the video I have in my OP. That video raised up many valid points like :

1) Where is the wreckage on impact? Parts of the plane Boeing 757 and its fuel that it was carrying? No evidence of either r anywhere after impact and vids showing the collision area show none of either plane parts nor burnt fuel on ground. The plane was 60 tonnes and it was carrying 5300 gallons of diesel on impact so where r all of it? How can the ground be cleared of it all (even if there is a cleanup job done so quickly) u would at least see a diesel soaked ground and grass...

2) Airplane crashes leave wreckage.... they mess up the ground ... where r those wing parts? even if u remove those wing parts, those wing parts will show on collision impact with the walls of the Pentagon, or show on the ground and grass as it was broken apart.

3) The Boeing 757 was flying 530 mph 2 feet above the ground? How can it fly that low? Just thinking about it is absurd. It seemed more like a missile that hit the Pentagon. So many witnesses said they heard a whoosh sound like a missile rather than a plane. Noone saw the Boeing 757 of any evidence of a plane that hit it as well.

4) The hole shown in the video made by a circle r pretty small, not like those made by a wide-diameter Boeing 757, more like a missile made those instead of a plane, besides where r the wing part entry at collision? For the plane to hit the 3rd concentric ring of the Pentagon, logic assumes that the wings also hit the outer ring of the Pentagon and r left outside. So where r the wing part collision into the walls of the Pentagon?

Would appreciate if u guys can address these points and convince me that a plane did that not a missile.

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