Gladiator

Everyone knows that drugs and Alcohol are against the Religion of Islam.

Therefore if Opium is being provided at inexpensive prices to the youth, the youth will keep this secret.

Iran has a history of rebelling against the strict adherence to Isalm practiced by the Arab nations. Persia has a long history of enjoyment of opiates.

Is it a coincidence that the CIA controls Afghanistan, and now there are bumper Poppy crops?

The China opium war seemed to work out OK for the West. Get all the people inside your enemy stoned, and their power is reduced.

My idea was to give the Iranian Peole and Youth the knowledge of how to get along with others, and avoid being bullied. Thereby, the Iranian leaders would be faced with a nation of able thinkers, and the power of the leaders would be reduced by the efficacy of the populace.

The CIA plan seems to be to make the populace inept, and incompetet through secretly addicting the citizens of Iran to optiates.



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"Your" idea? Anyway, any education effort in Iran will fail for now. Drugs are easier. If you want a conspiracy, though... we're currently destroying poppy crops in Afghanistan, and the opium was there long before we were.

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Gladiator

I was reading up a little on the Opium War with China.

First Opium War - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Gladiator

Dear Edify,

So you are giving absoulte assurances that the CIA and MI-5, etc., are in no way winking or assisting in the flow of opiates into Iran?

You are further giving absolute assurances that all elements of the CIA, MI-5 etc., are fully in support of stopping the growing of Poppy?

Iran contra was about how elements of the CIA used cash from Cocaine sales to finance clandestine activities to evade the oversight of Congress.

I beleive that there is increasing opiate use in Iran, and since it is done secretly, I have no studies or articles to back up the idea. How can you give assurances that Opiate use is declining in Iran? What rehab centers are in operation? What is their popularity? Increasing? Decreasing?

In the US arested people are given drug screening.

In 2004, one study found 14% of a sample of arrestees in Iran tested positive for opiates.

Estimating the Prevalence of Opiates Use by Unlinked Anonymous Urine Drug Testing: A Pilot Study in Iran - Substance Use & Misuse


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Gladiator

The Opium Wars:


"Anglo-Chinese Wars, lasted from 1839 to 1842 and 1856 to 1860 respectively,[1] the climax of a trade dispute between China under the Qing Dynasty and the United Kingdom. British smuggling of opium from British India into China and the Chinese government's efforts to enforce its drug laws erupted in conflict.

China's defeat in both wars forced the government to have to tolerate the opium trade...."


"Many Chinese found these agreements humiliating and these sentiments are considered to have contributed to the bloodthirsty Taiping Rebellion (1850-1864) which was deemed the worldwide second tier most bloody revolt after WWII, with an estimated death toll of 20-30 million[2], the Boxer Rebellion (1899-1901), and the downfall of the Qing Dynasty in 1911.[citation needed]"

Opium Wars - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Opium importing trade by the West into China, had both the efffect of undermining he work force in China, but also created internal conflicts between advocates of legalization, and those attemtping to restrict the ill effects of Opium, and overlapping political challenges.

So perhaps the secret Western plan for Iran is to import more opium into Iran, both to weaken the work force, and after secrecy is being exposed, the creation of politcial unrest.

The political unrest, including 20 million Chinese killed in the Boxer Rebellion, in China in 1899, occurred 30 or 40 years after starting to streadily increase the Opium trade to China.


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bhkad

When the Mullahs and Ahmadinejad and the Generals and the military and Hezbollah and Syria and the scientists working to develop atom bombs develop a heroin habit that's when you should worry.

Gladiator

Dear BHKAD,

What many people don't realize, is that it is not so much the drugs, the intoxication, or the habit that creates irrational behaviour. It is the inconsistency of the supply of the addictive drug, and the agitation that occurs when the next hit is not available, and there is uncertainty as to when the next hit can be obtained. The come-down from the addictive drug is where most problems occur.

The DEA is, I understand, active in Afghanistan, and is paying off a lot of money to the warlords who have previously been involved in growing poppies, and supplying opiates. The bribes to the Warlords have, I understand, reduced the Poppy crop.

So it is possible that the supply of opiates is becoming less reliable. The DEA and CIA probably don't have the knowledge and control they need to keep a steady supply of opiates to Iran.

Intermittently winking at shipments to Iran could cause unintended problems.

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Gladiator

There are some self-help groups trying to provide some assitance for self-actualization training for the people of Iran. One problem is that many self-help books have not been translated into Farsi, as there are not that many people in the world with Farsi as their primary language. Some cities in Afghanistan, and Uzbekistan, Tajikistan, and some parts of Pakistan.

Persian language - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

In terms of the numbers of people interested in self-help to be able to handle the opression of a regime as is now in power in Iran, the demand for such training and books is not as high, as for some other languages, in other parts of the world. So the need for Iran, and the Frasi language, to receive help from self-help groups needs to be evaluated in terms of the importance of the need, in realtion to helping even only a few individuals in Iran, to start out.

Democracies need an electorate of citizens who can evaluate campaign promises, and check for vote fraud, effectively.



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