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| Re: Ventura’s 9/11 Questions Break Through Mainstream Media Dam So you believe the 9/11 conspiricy theories? |
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Originally Posted by Jray So you believe the 9/11 conspiricy theories? | From an article by former Reagan administration official, Paul Craig Roberts: "If one looks at the credentials of skeptics compared to the credentials of defenders of the official line, it is impossible to dismiss skeptics as kooks. There are many people with strong imaginations on the Internet, but serious skeptics stick to known facts, known violations of standard procedures and the laws of physics. The vast majority of the people who call skeptics "kooks" are themselves ignorant of physics and have little comprehension of the improbability that such an attack could succeed without either the complicity or complete failure of government agencies.
Over the past six years, the ranks of distinguished skeptics of the 9-11 storyline have grown enormously. The ranks include distinguished scientists, engineers and architects, intelligence officers, air traffic controllers, military officers and generals, including the former commanding general of U.S. Army Intelligence and Security Command, former presidential appointees and members of the White House staff in Republican administrations, Top Gun fighter pilots and career airline pilots who say that the flying attributed to the 9-11 hijackers is beyond the skills of America's best pilots, and foreign dignitaries.
Dr. Andreas von Buelow, former West German minister of research and technology and former state secretary of the federal ministry of defense, said: "The planning of the attacks was technically and organizationally a master achievement. To hijack four airliners within a few minutes and within one hour to drive them into their targets with complicated flight maneuvers! This is unthinkable, without years-long support from secret apparatuses of the state and industry."
Gen. Leonid Ivashov, chief of staff of the Russian armed forces, said: "Only secret services and their current chiefs — or those retired but still having influence inside the state organizations — have the ability to plan, organize and conduct an operation of such magnitude...Osama bin Laden and al-Qaida cannot be the organizers nor the performers of the Sept. 11 attacks. They do not have the necessary organization, resources or leaders." 9-11, Six Years Later by Paul Craig Roberts on Creators.com - A Syndicate Of Talent
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Originally Posted by Chanda From an article by former Reagan administration official, Paul Craig Roberts: "If one looks at the credentials of skeptics compared to the credentials of defenders of the official line, it is impossible to dismiss skeptics as kooks. There are many people with strong imaginations on the Internet, but serious skeptics stick to known facts, known violations of standard procedures and the laws of physics. The vast majority of the people who call skeptics "kooks" are themselves ignorant of physics and have little comprehension of the improbability that such an attack could succeed without either the complicity or complete failure of government agencies.
Over the past six years, the ranks of distinguished skeptics of the 9-11 storyline have grown enormously. The ranks include distinguished scientists, engineers and architects, intelligence officers, air traffic controllers, military officers and generals, including the former commanding general of U.S. Army Intelligence and Security Command, former presidential appointees and members of the White House staff in Republican administrations, Top Gun fighter pilots and career airline pilots who say that the flying attributed to the 9-11 hijackers is beyond the skills of America's best pilots, and foreign dignitaries.
Dr. Andreas von Buelow, former West German minister of research and technology and former state secretary of the federal ministry of defense, said: "The planning of the attacks was technically and organizationally a master achievement. To hijack four airliners within a few minutes and within one hour to drive them into their targets with complicated flight maneuvers! This is unthinkable, without years-long support from secret apparatuses of the state and industry."
Gen. Leonid Ivashov, chief of staff of the Russian armed forces, said: "Only secret services and their current chiefs — or those retired but still having influence inside the state organizations — have the ability to plan, organize and conduct an operation of such magnitude...Osama bin Laden and al-Qaida cannot be the organizers nor the performers of the Sept. 11 attacks. They do not have the necessary organization, resources or leaders." 9-11, Six Years Later by Paul Craig Roberts on Creators.com - A Syndicate Of Talent | So what do you believe? WTC was taken down by explosives? A missile hit the pentagon? 9/11 was a false flag operation? |
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Originally Posted by Jray So what do you believe? WTC was taken down by explosives? A missile hit the pentagon? 9/11 was a false flag operation? | Do you believe it is possible for steel columned buildings to pancake at free fall speed? |
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Originally Posted by Chanda Do you believe it is possible for steel columned buildings to pancake at free fall speed? | Yes, once all that weight starts to fall, nothing is going to slow it down.
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Originally Posted by Chanda Do you believe it is possible for steel columned buildings to pancake at free fall speed? | They did not pancake at free fall speed. They collapsed close to free fall speed. So is it possible for a steel structure to collapse at close to free fall? Yes. |
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Originally Posted by Jray They did not pancake at free fall speed. They collapsed close to free fall speed. So is it possible for a steel structure to collapse at close to free fall? Yes. | Are you a physicist? Physicists say it isn't possible, except by controlled demolition:
Dave Heller, a builder with degrees in physics and architecture: "The floors could not have been pancaking. The buildings fell too quickly. The floors must all have been falling simultaneously to reach the ground in such a short amount of time. But how?"
Physicist Steven Jones: “the Towers fall very rapidly to the ground, with the upper part falling nearly as rapidly as ejected debris which provide free-fall references . . . . Where is the delay that must be expected due to conservation of momentum---one of the foundational Laws of Physics? That is, as upper-falling floors strike lower floors---and intact steel support columns---the fall must be significantly impeded by the impacted mass. . . . [b]ut this is not the case. . . . How do the upper floors fall so quickly, then, and still conserve momentum in the collapsing buildings? The contradiction is ignored by FEMA, NIST and 9/11 Commission reports where conservation of momentum and the fall times were not analyzed” The Destruction of the World Trade Center: |
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Originally Posted by dirtyp Jesse ‘The Mind’ Defends Questions About Towers’ Telling Collapse on Hannity & Colmes and National Talk Radio Programs: "How can two planes bring down three buildings?"
Former Governor Jesse Ventura broke through enemy lines yesterday, exposing major inconsistencies with the official 9/11 story and holding his own against some of mainstream media’s most disingenuous hosts, including Fox News’ Sean Hannity and Opie & Anthony from XM Satellite radio.
Ventura’s notoriety as a fiercely independent upstart may have kept Hannity, for one, from playing his usual dirty tricks.
As former Governor, Ventura may be the highest level official in the United States to take 9/11 truth questions seriously, yet his enduring popularity and success as a celebrity, wrestler, Hollywood star, Navy SEAL and even Harvard professor make him more difficult to diffuse and ignore than celebrities who have previously come forward or Congressmen who have flirted with raising questions.
The Associated Press ran a story last week about Ventura’s 9/11 comments following an appearance on the Alex Jones Show that has now exploded into a frenzy of coverage as he makes the rounds to promote his book Don’t Start the Revolution Without Me, a title that may prove to be more than just rhetoric.
On Hannity & Colmes, Ventura touts his knowledge of (mere elementary) physics and his experience with explosives in the Navy Seals– if only to establish that the questions about the collapses of the Twin Towers and Building 7 are entirely credible and indeed deserve an explanation– rather than the usual ridicule. Ventura?s 9/11 Questions Break Through Mainstream Media Dam | War On You |
so underwater demolition and elementery physics makes one an expert on how buildings hit by planes full of fuel collpse?
I think "the mind" is rotting or something.
Oh wait I didn't realize I was in the kook forum. L8. 
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