US supports Jundollah terrorist group in Iran

Hundebolg · 02-07-08, 09:20 AM

Another proof that the US systematically and traditionally supports Al-Qaeda-related terror groups, whereever they serve the dark whims of US foreign policy. Basically, the whole "war on terror" propaganda is a bogus concept aimed at stirring chauvinism and islamophobia among the western public, so to "justify" wars of occupation for oil and global control.

YouTube - U.S supports Jundollah terrorist group in east of Iran

(from PRESS TV )

Red_Dave · 02-07-08, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Hundebolg

Another proof that the US systematically and traditionally supports Al-Qaeda-related terror groups, whereever they serve the dark whims of US foreign policy. Basically, the whole "war on terror" propaganda is a bogus concept aimed at stirring chauvinism and islamophobia among the western public, so to "justify" wars of occupation for oil and global control.

YouTube - U.S supports Jundollah terrorist group in east of Iran

(from PRESS TV )

This is an example of two slightly insane tendancys in U.S policy in this region.

[1] Turning the Iranian people against them. Iranian's HATE their government with a passion. Therefore the sensible thing to have done would have been to work with them in order to overcome the mullahs. Instead [as if overthrowing there last democratic government and helping saddam hussein invade them wasnt enough] we,ve decided to turn them against us.

[2] There seams to be a longstanding american/brittish policy in the middle east of sideing with the sunni and against the shia regardless of the extreamities of the sunni we side with. By supporting saddam hussein, the house of saud and sunni terroists, we,re effectively saying that totalitarianism, fundamentalism, and mass sectarian violence are ok as long as it works in our favor.

donsutherland1 · 02-07-08, 10:08 AM

Hundebolg,

Please look into the facts before spreading misinformation. This terrorist organization is properly designated as a foreign terrorist organization by the United States.

Jundallah aka Jund allah aka Jondallah aka People's Mujahedin Organization of Iran (People's Resistance Movement of Iran) is also known as the Mujahedin-e Khalq Organization (MEK). That organization remains on the latest list of designated foreign terrorist organizations.

Hundebolg · 02-07-08, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Red_Dave

This is an example of two slightly insane tendancys in U.S policy in this region.

[1] Turning the Iranian people against them. Iranian's HATE their government with a passion. Therefore the sensible thing to have done would have been to work with them in order to overcome the mullahs. Instead [as if overthrowing there last democratic government and helping saddam hussein invade them wasnt enough] we,ve decided to turn them against us.

I wouldnt be sure about iranians hating their political system. Turnout at general elections in Iran is at 80%, almost twice as high as in the United States. An easy calculation shows that the iranian's political system's legitimacy is twice as high as the US's. Also, recent military threats against Iran have 'sown together' Iranians in national support for their leaders.

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[2] There seams to be a longstanding american/brittish policy in the middle east of sideing with the sunni and against the shia regardless of the extreamities of the sunni we side with. By supporting saddam hussein, the house of saud and sunni terroists, we,re effectively saying that totalitarianism, fundamentalism, and mass sectarian violence are ok as long as it works in our favor.

The US/UK also strongly supported Iran, as long as it was undemocratic and sold it's oil at premium prices to american companies.

Hundebolg · 02-07-08, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by donsutherland1

Hundebolg,

Please look into the facts before spreading misinformation. This terrorist organization is properly designated as a foreign terrorist organization by the United States.

Jundallah aka Jund allah aka Jondallah aka People's Mujahedin Organization of Iran (People's Resistance Movement of Iran) is also known as the Mujahedin-e Khalq Organization (MEK). That organization remains on the latest list of designated foreign terrorist organizations.

donsutherland1,

please look at the facts before spreading disinformation. MEK is not Jundollah. MEK is a communist iranian terrorist group operating from Iraq while Jundollah is a sunni group related to AlQaeda and operating in east Iran. Also, the US governement is harboring and fostering MEK (also known as MKO) in it's bases inside Iraq, close to the Iranian border (even though they designate it as a terrorist group ?)

The US Governement is the premium terror supporter in the region.

donsutherland1 · 02-07-08, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Hundebolg

donsutherland1,

please look at the facts before spreading disinformation. MEK is not Jundollah. MEK is a communist iranian terrorist group operating from Iraq while Jundollah is a sunni group related to AlQaeda and operating in east Iran. Also, the US governement is harboring and fostering MEK (also known as MKO) in it's bases inside Iraq, close to the Iranian border (even though they designate it as a terrorist group ?)

The US Governement is the premium terror supporter in the region.

From The Jamestown Foundation's global terrorism analysis page:

The PMOI, also known as the Mojahedin-e-Khalq (MEK), is affiliated with the opposition National Council of Resistance of Iran (NCRI), an umbrella organization of anti-regime movements that include ethnic Baloch and other Iranian minority-led groups that seek to overthrow the Shiite Islamist-led government (National Council of Resistance of Iran - Foreign Affairs Committee - Home).

Jundallah traditionally claims responsibility for its attacks early. The group eventually took credit for its actions under a different moniker. In a public statement issued on February 20 by the self-proclaimed "former Jundallah of Iran" and "People's Resistance Movement of Iran" (PRMI), the group justified what it labeled as "recent defensive measures" to prevent Iran's "genocide" against the Baloch people.

Jundallah, a Baloch terrorist organization, is part of the NCRI umbrella organization. The NCRI organization is the political wing of MEK. Hence, the present U.S. listing is sufficient. Designation of MEK as a foreign terrorist organization (which includes NCRI of which Jundallah is a component) suffices. Could the U.S. add to clarity by specifying all of MEK's constituent groups, including Jundallah? Absolutely. Clarity is a good thing and I would certainly support such clarity.

In contrast, the EU lists MEK but exempts NCRI from its list of foreign terrorist organizations. Hopefully, the EU will close that loophole.

Hundebolg · 02-07-08, 10:47 AM

Please read your own link again prior to posting claims that are not supported by it.

There is no ideological or functional relationship between Jundollah and the NCRI, and Jundollah is certainly not an official part of NCRI.

The only thing in common both have is that they are terrorist groups supported by the USA. They may begin to work together under american auspices (according to iranian intelligence), but they are two separate terrorist groups.

Tashah · 02-07-08, 02:03 PM

Moderator's Warning:

*BN* violation. Moved.

Hundebolg · 02-08-08, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Tashah

Moderator's Warning:

*BN* violation. Moved.

This is not a conspiracy topic. Perhaps move it to the Middle-East or War on Terrorism Forum ?

Hundebolg · 02-10-08, 11:55 AM

More about US cooperation in their "War of Terrorism":

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Exposed : Where The U.S. gets its "intelligence" about Iran's nuclear program

You must've heard the howls of protest from the International Atomic Energy Agency after the release of a US House of Representatives report on Iran's nuclear program. The IAEA branded the American report "outrageous and dishonest" for asserting that Tehran's nuclear plans were geared towards weapons. This, of course, was just the latest flare-up in the running debate over Iran's supposed nuclear ambitions. So where is Washington getting its information?

Try an Iranian opposition group known as the Mujahedin-e-Khalq - MeK for short. Given the debacle over Saddam's non-existent WMDs in Iraq, you'd reckon there'd have to be a touch of caution where Iranian exiles peddling nuclear secrets are concerned. But as Bronwyn Adcock tells it, when the MeK speaks, Washington hardliners listen.

Gunning for Iran