Mark Dice - Military Intelligence Wants to Talk to Me

CMPancake said:

Tell me, who is SOCOM and what do they do? Better yet, also look up INSCOM and see what their mission is compared to SOCOM.

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CMPancake said:

No, I can assure you with absolute certainty that military intelligence does not, can not, and would not approach civilians living state side. That is not our jurisdiction, the only people that can gather and operate on would be the FBI, or NSA. Either Dice is lying, or someone is pulling his leg.

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Captain America said:

I'm not exactly sure what you are talking about. I think it relates to gathering intel.

But I do know that, in short order, our military WILL turn their guns on the citizenry, on our own soil, when ordered to do so.

My fear is that it won't be long until we actually find out.

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Orly? said:

I'm optimistic that you are wrong but not naive enough to rule it out..

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Orly? said:

No... Your input on this subject has been proven worthless.. I'm not chasing another rabbit hole for you..

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Captain America said:

I'm not exactly sure what you are talking about. I think it relates to gathering intel.

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But I do know that, in short order, our military WILL turn their guns on the citizenry, on our own soil, when ordered to do so.

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My fear is that it won't be long until we actually find out.

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CMPancake said:

I'm asking, almost pleading for you to look in the right direction. But I can only open your eyelids so wide before you ultimately decide to see for yourself.




Yes we are talking about gathering intelligence. You just earned yourself a paint chip. Now if you can keep up with the conversation where it is made abundantly clear federal law prohibits military intelligence groups (namely INSCOM) from gathering information upon US Citizens on US soil. That of intel work is left to non military groups like the NSA and FBI.



No. We won't. Know why? Because we are citizens too.



Your "fear" is extremely misguided.

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Orly? said:

us special operations command
United States Special Operations Command (USSOCOM) - Home

The United States Special Operations Command (USSOCOM or SOCOM) is the Unified Combatant Command charged with overseeing the various Special Operations Component Commands of the Army, Marine Corps, Navy, and Air Force of the United States Armed Forces.

USSOCOM conducts several covert and clandestine missions, such as direct action, special reconnaissance, counter-terrorism, foreign internal defense, unconventional warfare, psychological warfare, civil affairs, and counter-narcotics operations.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Special_Operations_Command

US SOCOM: PsyOps Help Wanted
US SOCOM: PsyOps Help Wanted

SOF Recruiting
Special Forces Recruiting, Fort Bragg, N.C.: (910) 432-1818
Special Forces Recruiting, Fort Stewart, Ga.: (912) 876-6225
Civil Affairs and Psychological Operations (Active) Recruiting: (910) 432-9697
Civil Affairs and Psychological Operations (Reserve) Recruiting: (910) 432-5785
Special Operations Command (SOCOM): Overview | Military.com

Special Operations Command Faces Personnel Shortages
May 2005
By Joe Pappalardo

The U.S. Special Operations Command, reeling from the demands of the global war on terrorism, is taking steps to replenish its dwindling stock of specialized operators, according to its commander.

Some of the most skilled personnel slots may face future shortages, including civil affairs operators, psychological operations staff, special forces units and combat controllers, SOCOM commander Gen. Bryan Brown told the House Armed Services Committee.

The shortage has already led to a shift in staffing that has prompted moving operators from other theaters into the Middle East as a stopgap. “If you try to talk to some special operators at CENTCOM they’d be speaking Spanish (as a second language),” Brown said, referring to Central Command, the combatant command headquarters that covers the Persian Gulf.

So far, the areas of most concern are psychological operations and civil affairs forces, Brown said.

PsyOp units are tasked with disseminating information to foreign audiences, spearheading weapons collection efforts, encouraging enemy surrender and directing civilians away from battle zones. Three-quarters of SOCOM’s psychological operations personnel are from the Reserves. Civil affairs units help reconstruction and stabilization efforts, a fight for “hearts and minds” that entails the identification and prioritization of infrastructure construction.
Special Operations Command Faces Personnel Shortages

Advertising psy-ops
In what SOCOM spokesperson Capt. Kenneth Hoffman called "market research," it was reported in December 2004 that SOCOM was trying "to determine what commercial firms might add to its psychological operations or psy-ops." Of particular interest were advertising agencies who could produce "slick multilingual audio, video, print and Web packages to support [SOCOM's] global psychological war against terrorism." [7]

Hoffman defined psy-ops as "providing truthful information to foreign audiences in support of U.S. national security objectives." He gave the example of "SOCom's Superman comic book that illustrated the dangers of minefields to the children in Bosnia and Kosovo." Hoffman stressed that any advertising or other psy-ops campaign would be for foreign audiences. "By law, psychological operations cannot produce products directed toward U.S. citizens," he told the St. Petersburg Times. Such efforts, he said, are totally separate from public affairs, which is "geared to informing the U.S. public." [8]

Former SOCOM head during the first Gulf War Retired Army Gen. Carl W. Stiner said that "his command's psy-op unit relied on in-house experts at Fort Bragg." But Stiner supported SOCOM's seeking help from private businesses. "This war on terrorism is unlike any we've ever fought before," he said. "And right now, you might say we're losing to Al-Jazeera." [9]
http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php/U.S._Special_Operations_Command


You are completely busted MR 8..

8. Invoke authority. Claim for yourself or associate yourself with authority and present your argument with enough “jargon” and “minutiae” to illustrate you are “one who knows”, and simply say it isn’t so without discussing issues or demonstrating concretely why or citing sources.

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Captain America said:

Well, we have seen them called out, as of late.

And there is a precedent in recent history.

I know when I was military, I was so gung-ho I would have stormed the very gates of hell if ordered to. Not sure our current day military would be much different.

Do you think our sons and daughters would pull their weapons on their own people? I'm almost sure they would.

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depakote said:

And so I'm looking at this guy upon getting into this thread. What a young man. Maybe in his late 20's early 30's? Clean, not too much gel in his hair. Clean shaven. The future CEO's of America. And so I wonder to myself, is America promoting such young men to be role models to every adult and child in America? Has Mr. Donald Trump advocated for such sauve looking young Americans?

Surely, many are supposed to think, this sort of man can never do any harm or wrong. Well, just look at him.. Wouldn't you love for your mom to meet him also? I wonder how tempted he would become if my mom was hotter than me... ??? And I also wonder if my mom would have the resistance to fend off such a powerful, virile young male.

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