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3 Million Illegals Voted -- Thus Hillary did NOT Win The Popular Vote

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Moved to a more appropo place.
 
Redress said:
He called infowars "a reputable source"...:lamo
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I do, for months the months they have been predicting the election would go pretty much exactly as it did. Today the Main Stream Media Pollsters are explaining how they all got it wrong, and their explanation is exactly what Infowars has been saying about the polls for months.

I have looked at them close and I have a hard time finding anything they get wrong. When they do get something wrong they are quick to admit it. I have see people and organizations lie Rachael Maddow, Huff post, Snopes criticize them and upon close examination it ends up being the Liberals lying or taking what info wars said out of context.
 
It seems that many of you are taking exception to the fact that the OP's first link was to Alex Jones' Info Wars.

But all that site did was reference Greg Phillips' Votefraud.org which presented the 3,000,000 illegal aliens having voted.

Vote Fraud .org has been around a while and was recognized in 1996 by Popular Science.

In addition, I clearly presented that a google search as I specified will bring up additional sources that are reputable, all saying the same thing.

Then I linked to a survey that presents the percentages of illegal aliens that have admitted to voting in past elections.

Etc.

I'm thinking that attempting to debunk something because you don't like the last messenger isn't very intelligent.

This is not a "conspiracy theory" -- calling it a "conspiracy theory" is simply a weak-minded form of debating.

The facts are there and obviously so, and I presented them.

We all know that illegal aliens vote.

Now we know how many vote.

I'm not sure why those who lean conservative are complaining about the fact that Donald Trump truly did win the popular vote. What have you to gain by denying the truth of it? Does it bother you that the great U.S. of A. can have its exalted democracy so distorted by illegal aliens?

It is, however, clear why liberals would be denying the truth of it -- they've put out too many "this is wrong" messages about the popular vote losing to the EC, and they can't bear to accept that they were simply factually .. wrong.
 
Van Basten said:
The lengths folks will go to prove Trump has the masses on his side are incredible.
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Of course the masses support trump

The election proves that
 
Wow, what a stupid thread.

But, its in conspiracy theories, so..that goes without saying I guess.
 
Ontologuy said:
It seems that many of you are taking exception to the fact that the OP's first link was to Alex Jones' Info Wars.

But all that site did was reference Greg Phillips' Votefraud.org which presented the 3,000,000 illegal aliens having voted.

Vote Fraud .org has been around a while and was recognized in 1996 by Popular Science.

In addition, I clearly presented that a google search as I specified will bring up additional sources that are reputable, all saying the same thing.

Then I linked to a survey that presents the percentages of illegal aliens that have admitted to voting in past elections.

Etc.

I'm thinking that attempting to debunk something because you don't like the last messenger isn't very intelligent.

This is not a "conspiracy theory" -- calling it a "conspiracy theory" is simply a weak-minded form of debating.

The facts are there and obviously so, and I presented them.

We all know that illegal aliens vote.

Now we know how many vote.

I'm not sure why those who lean conservative are complaining about the fact that Donald Trump truly did win the popular vote. What have you to gain by denying the truth of it? Does it bother you that the great U.S. of A. can have its exalted democracy so distorted by illegal aliens?

It is, however, clear why liberals would be denying the truth of it -- they've put out too many "this is wrong" messages about the popular vote losing to the EC, and they can't bear to accept that they were simply factually .. wrong.
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I find it amusing that even after this has been debunked on facts, you still press the claim, but somehow manage to not link to the actual source for the numbers you claim.
 
Ontologuy said:
Just Google "illegals voted in the 2016 election" and you'll find this ( Report: Three Million Votes in Presidential Election Cast by Illegal Aliens » Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind! ) and many other reputable sources that testify to the fact that millions of illegal aliens voted in our Presidential election last week.

And it really wasn't news that they were going to vote either: Poll: 13% of Illegal Aliens ADMIT They Vote - California Political Review. That's right, back in 2015, 13% of illegal aliens polled admitted they use their forged ids, not just to work, but to vote in our elections!

And since there are 22,000,000 illegal aliens in America .. maybe even quite a bit more! .. and if just 30% age 18 or over voted (twice as many in such a big Presidential election than the 15% admitted), yeah, that could be 3,000,000. Makes sense.

But this isn't surprising .. and, though Trump's "rigged election" rhetoric, complete with promises to guard precincts in the east, south, and north might have been sufficient to keep a goodly amount of them away from the voting booth there, California, however, is another story altogether, likely accounting for why Hillary won so big in CA.

So, regarding Hillary winning the popular vote .. no, she didn't.

According to this ( Who Won the Popular Vote: Donald Trump or Hillary Clinton? - Us Weekly ) Hillary's popular vote tally was 61,324,576 and Donald's was 60,526,852 .. for a Hillary edge difference of 797,724.

But, that doesn't consider the 3,000,000 illegal aliens who voted, so for an accurate legal vote, we must subtract them out.

It's pretty much known that any illegal alien who voted would be voting for Hillary .. but let's reduce that near-100% to an ultra, ultra conservative, and thus very safe, estimate of 80% of them voted for Hillary.

So, 2,400,000 illegal aliens voted for Hillary, leaving 600,000 voting for Donald and others.

Thus, removing 2,400,000 from Hillary's tallied count leaves her with 58,924,576 legal votes.

Even if we then removed all of the remaining illegal alien votes from Donald's tally that would leave him with 59,926852 legal votes.

Thus, clearly, Donald Trump most certainly did win the popular vote .. by at least 1,000,00 votes! .. the popular legal vote, and, of course, that's all that ethically, morally matters!

And though it's hard to say if Donald would have picked up more states had these gross scofflaw illegal aliens not voted (as so many of them are in California and Hillary won there by 2.5 million votes .. .. hmmm .. ..), but quite a number of illegals are in Texas and Florida, and though Trump did win Florida, it was pretty darn close.

Now, it's the height of scofflaw hubris for illegal aliens to use their forged ids for work to vote in our elections.

But it's exceeded by and coupled with the great unethical feigning of ignorance by none other than California's own many-terms out-going Senator, Barbara Boxer: https://www.boxer.senate.gov/?p=release&id=3355.

Yes, with her last dying shrill, California's most ultra-liberal Senator blatantly panders to end the EC with an erroneous premise that she most certainly knows, being from California where most illegal aliens live -- and vote! --, is erroneous. What a party whore! And, she's a pretty stupid one, too, as if we can do a better job to keep illegal aliens from the polls, it looks like it would hurt her party in the popular vote, too!

So, for those who say, no, illegal aliens aren't a problem, and so what if a good chunk of them vote, and all .. there's a lot of protests and riots going on right now, with people being hurt and arrested, many who are basing their participation on the false premise that Hillary won the popular vote. That's a lot of people getting hurt for an erroneous reason.

Hillary didn't win the popular vote.

That's reality.

And, illegal aliens are a major, major problem.

Hopefully Donald will deal once and for all with this problem, with justice for all always-legal American citizens.
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Yes, there is a war for minds. I see they got yours, my condolences, live long and prosper........
 
Ontologuy said:
It seems that many of you are taking exception to the fact that the OP's first link was to Alex Jones' Info Wars.

But all that site did was reference Greg Phillips' Votefraud.org which presented the 3,000,000 illegal aliens having voted.

Vote Fraud .org has been around a while and was recognized in 1996 by Popular Science.

In addition, I clearly presented that a google search as I specified will bring up additional sources that are reputable, all saying the same thing.

Then I linked to a survey that presents the percentages of illegal aliens that have admitted to voting in past elections.

Etc.

I'm thinking that attempting to debunk something because you don't like the last messenger isn't very intelligent.

This is not a "conspiracy theory" -- calling it a "conspiracy theory" is simply a weak-minded form of debating.

The facts are there and obviously so, and I presented them.

We all know that illegal aliens vote.

Now we know how many vote.

I'm not sure why those who lean conservative are complaining about the fact that Donald Trump truly did win the popular vote. What have you to gain by denying the truth of it? Does it bother you that the great U.S. of A. can have its exalted democracy so distorted by illegal aliens?

It is, however, clear why liberals would be denying the truth of it -- they've put out too many "this is wrong" messages about the popular vote losing to the EC, and they can't bear to accept that they were simply factually .. wrong.
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So some one Twits something and say ok that must be true, why would they lie, and off you go. My My My
 
Ontologuy said:
It seems that many of you are taking exception to the fact that the OP's first link was to Alex Jones' Info Wars.

But all that site did was reference Greg Phillips' Votefraud.org which presented the 3,000,000 illegal aliens having voted.

Vote Fraud .org has been around a while and was recognized in 1996 by Popular Science.

In addition, I clearly presented that a google search as I specified will bring up additional sources that are reputable, all saying the same thing.

Then I linked to a survey that presents the percentages of illegal aliens that have admitted to voting in past elections.

Etc.

I'm thinking that attempting to debunk something because you don't like the last messenger isn't very intelligent.

This is not a "conspiracy theory" -- calling it a "conspiracy theory" is simply a weak-minded form of debating.

The facts are there and obviously so, and I presented them.

We all know that illegal aliens vote.

Now we know how many vote.

I'm not sure why those who lean conservative are complaining about the fact that Donald Trump truly did win the popular vote. What have you to gain by denying the truth of it? Does it bother you that the great U.S. of A. can have its exalted democracy so distorted by illegal aliens?

It is, however, clear why liberals would be denying the truth of it -- they've put out too many "this is wrong" messages about the popular vote losing to the EC, and they can't bear to accept that they were simply factually .. wrong.
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*sigh*

Three Million Votes in Presidential Election Cast by 'Illegal Aliens'? : snopes.com

Zero evidence has been put forth to support the widely parroted claim that 3 million "illegal aliens" voted in the 2016 presidential election.
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If anything like 2% of the vote was fraud then when have a huge voter fraud problem.
 
TheGoverness said:
*sigh*

Three Million Votes in Presidential Election Cast by 'Illegal Aliens'? : snopes.com
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The first thing we found was that while no such claim has been reported in the mainstream media,
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There is Snoopes problem

They listen to their coconspiirators in the democrat party controlled mainstream media.

Liberals think that if they just ignore a problem the problem will disappear

But the victory of trump proves that libs cant fool all the people all the time
 
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