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Why are psychiatric drugs used despite there is no proof that they work?

Thoreau72 said:
I've done the research. I see it in action every day.
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You mean you watched Alex Jones on youtube Getting rich off of morons that watch his nonsense?

I could not care less whether you understand it or not. :peace
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If you aren't interested in discussion, what in the hell are you doing on a discussion board?
 
Thoreau72 said:
I've done the research. I see it in action every day.

I could not care less whether you understand it or not. :peace
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If there is one thing we all know by now it is that you do not do research.
 
CLAX1911 said:
You mean you watched Alex Jones on youtube Getting rich off of morons that watch his nonsense?

If you aren't interested in discussion, what in the hell are you doing on a discussion board?
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No, ossifer, I do not watch Alex Jones on YouTube. I take it you're not a detective, but just road patrol?
 
Pin dÁr said:
one word: REVOLTING DOOR

The people at the FDA have worked before at the Pharmaceutical Companioes and vice versa.

Besides that, the checking of the safety of the medicines happens through..you guessed it..The Pharmaceutical Companies.
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That's two words.
 
Thoreau72 said:
No, ossifer, I do not watch Alex Jones on YouTube. I take it you're not a detective, but just road patrol?
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Why would anybody be a detective? That's **** work. I did do a lot of road patrol, that seems to be the place you can make the most difference. I did intake at the jail as well as some ride along with senior officers. I however am no longer an officer.

So where do you get your research from?
 
CLAX1911 said:
Why would anybody be a detective? That's **** work. I did do a lot of road patrol, that seems to be the place you can make the most difference. I did intake at the jail as well as some ride along with senior officers. I however am no longer an officer.

So where do you get your research from?
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I get my view from observing the world around me.

And on the 'detective' thing, I was joking. You suggested that I watch Alex Jones on YouTube. I never once have in my life, so I was joking about asking if you were a detective. I've never watched it once, you and I have posted back and forth just a few times, I have never mentioned watching AJ UTube, and yet you suggest I watch him. I would like to know, Detective, why on earth you suspect I watch AJ at all?

The joke was that from that bit of "dot connecting" you appear to be a very poor detective. ;)
 
Thoreau72 said:
I get my view from observing the world around me.
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No,you don't. Unless you work for the FDA you can't observe what they conceal. You jump to conclusions.

And on the 'detective' thing, I was joking. You suggested that I watch Alex Jones on YouTube. I never once have in my life, so I was joking about asking if you were a detective. I've never watched it once, you and I have posted back and forth just a few times, I have never mentioned watching AJ UTube, and yet you suggest I watch him. I would like to know, Detective, why on earth you suspect I watch AJ at all?
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Unfounded conspiracy nonsense.

The joke was that from that bit of "dot connecting" you appear to be a very poor detective. ;)
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Not a detective. But I've heard conspiracy theories before and they are typically based on jumping to conclusions based on mistrust, or anger toward corporations or the government.

I'm not saying we should trust the government, but i fobs it laughable that they are "out to get us."
 
Thoreau72 said:
I get my view from observing the world around me.
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zyzygy said:
And not noticing that vids which you say have been taken down from the net are still there.
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Apparently he is omnipresent. Because he observes all clinical testing to get FDA approval on drugs. He was actually at ground zero on September 11 2001, he is just seeing things and not reading about them at all.
 
ah well..

“...modern psychiatry has yet to convincingly prove the genetic/biologic cause of any single mental illness...Patients [have] been diagnosed with 'chemical imbalances' despite the fact that no test exists to support such a claim, and...there is no real conception of what a correct chemical balance would look like.”
—1996, psychiatrist David Kaiser
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And on and on it goes:

“DSM-IV is the fabrication upon which psychiatry seeks acceptance by medicine in general. Insiders know it is more a political than scientific document... DSM-IV has become a bible and a money making bestseller—its major failings notwithstanding."—Loren Mosher, M.D., Clinical Professor of Psychiatry
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And on and on

“I believe, until the public and psychiatry itself see that DSM labels are not only useless as medical ‘diagnoses’ but also have the potential to do great harm—particularly when they are used as means to deny individual freedoms, or as weapons by psychiatrists acting as hired guns for the legal system.”
— Dr. Sydney Walker III, psychiatrist
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will it ever stop?

“The way things get into the DSM is not based on blood test or brain scan or physical findings. It’s based on descriptions of behavior. And that’s what the whole psychiatry system is.”
— Dr. Colin Ross, Psychiatrist
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That sums it all up, doesn't it?!

"In order to survive,
we must go where the money is."
— Steven Sharfstein, M.D., former President of the
American Psychiatric Association, January 2003
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Your quotes mean nothing unless you link to the source Pin.
 
zgoldsmith23 said:
Don't worry, it's an old quote and Pin (of course) didn't provide context. Sharfstein was talking about mental health reform and funding.
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One reason I want links to the source. When a person does not provide a link to the source, it pretty much indicates it may not be as they are presenting the information.
 
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mike2810 said:
One reason I want links to the source. When a person does not provide a link to the source, it pretty much indicates it may not be as they are presenting the information.
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Oh I stand behind anything I write. Mind you the quotes are on itself no proof of course, but illustrations,

It still is all about the money and most diagnoses are cooked up by some idiotic psychiatrist.

To really understand how all this is done I can recommend this book, among othersL


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It is a bit dated but, as I have found out recently, SPOT ON!

e,g, the STUPID analogy with insuline is still in use today. It is just and only a selling pitch. That is directed at the patient
who has no clue what is going on and depends on the psychiatrist and nurses,

I have heard it, again, from a psychiatric nurse last month!
And she told it with full convincing. Hard not to laugh in her face. I didn't do that, laugh in her face.
She is a victim too.
 
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