Israeli 'Art Students' and the WTC

Mark F said:

And a false global generalization to boot.

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Pretty fancy words for a guy who buys into the nonsense that there was no Israeli involvement in the FF 911. :mrgreen:

Mark Twain offers much wisdom relevant to today's situation. Not only did he offer an excellent definition of patriotism, he also defined faith by way of his character Huck Finn. Faith is when you believe in something you know ain't true.

You have faith that there were no dancing Israelis, art students or furniture movers, but the simple reality is that there were, and that has been well documented on this thread. You may be constrained by your cognitive dissonance, but more and more of us are coming to our senses.

Thoreau72 said:

That is impossible for me to know. I have no opinion on that.

But those pictures, also shown by Rebekah Roth, are fascinating. Israeli fingerprints are all over the 911 story.

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What is the provenance of those photos? Anybody can post photos on the net. They could have been taken anywhere.

zyzygy said:

What is the provenance of those photos? Anybody can post photos on the net. They could have been taken anywhere.

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So true, but so irrelevant.

So too, anybody can make claims, true or untrue. Like, for example, "there were no Israeli students dancing on vans", or "there were no Israeli students at all and the DEA records mean nothing". Yes, anybody can post all sorts of nonsense, and display cognitive dissonance in public. Life is funny that way, eh?

Thoreau72 said:

So true, but so irrelevant.

So too, anybody can make claims, true or untrue. Like, for example, "there were no Israeli students dancing on vans", or "there were no Israeli students at all and the DEA records mean nothing". Yes, anybody can post all sorts of nonsense, and display cognitive dissonance in public. Life is funny that way, eh?

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Yes, you read some real nonsense in CT forums but never any evidence of the wild accusations. There are and were Israeli students in the USA. So what?

Thoreau72 said:

Pretty fancy words for a guy who buys into the nonsense that there was no Israeli involvement in the FF 911. :mrgreen:

Mark Twain offers much wisdom relevant to today's situation. Not only did he offer an excellent definition of patriotism, he also defined faith by way of his character Huck Finn. Faith is when you believe in something you know ain't true.

You have faith that there were no dancing Israelis, art students or furniture movers, but the simple reality is that there were, and that has been well documented on this thread. You may be constrained by your cognitive dissonance, but more and more of us are coming to our senses.

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Nice derail evasion. Not gonna get suckered by it.

Napoleon said:

Keep reading. The contents of the report were verified:


"To someone not familiar with the 60-page DEA memo, or to reporters who didn’t bother to obtain it, the fact that a disgruntled employee leaked a memo he wrote himself might seem like decisive proof that the whole “art student” tale was a canard. In reality, the nature of the memo makes its authorship irrelevant. The memo is a compilation of field reports by dozens of named agents and officials from DEA offices across America. It contains the names, passport numbers, addresses, and in some cases the military ID numbers of the Israelis who were questioned by federal authorities. Pointing a finger at the author is like blaming a bank robbery on the desk sergeant who took down the names of the robbers.

Of course, the agent (or agents) who wrote the memo could also have fabricated or embellished the field reports. That does not seem to have been the case. Salon contacted more than a half-dozen agents identified in the memo. One agent said she had been visited six times at her home by “art students.” None of the agents wished to be named, and very few were willing to speak at length, but all confirmed the veracity of the information."

The bottom line is that, yes, there was a coordinated effort by a large number of Israeli nationals to infiltrate federal facilities (some military) and gain access to the homes and offices of government officials while posing as art students. The only thing about that memo that has not been publicly acknowledge as being true is the motive.

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IIRC, this article first appeared in a Tampa, Florida newspaper but, not surprisingly, was ignored by big media.

The only plausible explanation is espionage.

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For what purpose? Well, It seems to keep tabs on the patsies: Atta & Co - "more than one-third of the students, who were spread out in 42 cities, lived in Florida, several in Hollywood and Fort Lauderdale, Fla. — one-time home to at least 10 of the 19 Sept. 11 hijackers. In at least one case, the students lived just a stone’s throw from homes and apartments where the Sept. 11 terrorists resided: In Hollywood, several students lived at 4220 Sheridan St., just down the block from the 3389 Sheridan St. apartment where terrorist mastermind Mohammed Atta holed up with three other Sept. 11 plotters."

So as to ensure that they did enough to get themselves noticed but not too much as to get themselves in trouble - eg. Atta's fondness for cocaine and his stripper girlfriend - just like with Lee Harvey Oswald.

"Apart from their world travels and attempts to be noticed, Atta and Oswald had other important things in common. For one, both of them appeared to be above the law. That is, they both committed crimes and yet they were not held accountable ... in 1959 (Oswald) defected to the Soviet Union. At the U.S. Embassy in Moscow, he reportedly told officials that he planned to give radar secrets to the Soviets. That, of course, would have been treason. Oswald lived in the Soviet Union for three years and married a young Russian woman. In June 1962, he was not only allowed to return to the United States, the U.S. government loaned him money to return, never prosecuted him, and claimed to have never even debriefed him.

"Although Mohamed Atta ‘s pre-9/11 crimes were not so dramatic, he enjoyed the same unbelievable luck with regard to lack of prosecution or interrogation. In 1995, Atta was investigated by German authorities for drug-related offenses yet was never charged. There is evidence that Atta continued to use drugs, as was suspected of Oswald. Atta’s stripper girlfriend, Amanda Keller, said that he “had massive supplies of cocaine” which he restocked whenever needed at one of the flight schools he frequented in Florida. Keller said that during the time she dated him, she saw Atta do cocaine on multiple occasions.

"Atta should have also been wanted for abandoning a stalled aircraft on a busy runway at Miami International Airport, in December 2000. Although the Federal Aviation Administration threatened to investigate the matter and hold him accountable, the whole thing was mysteriously dropped."

...massive supply of cocaine :lamo

Atta was quite the fellow, working for the CIA, like others before and after him.

So, The EVIDENCE tying the Israeli art students to the 9/11 attacks is : ________________