Virginia Tech massacre and terror attack

480. The real killer behind Virginia Tech. massacre (1) (4/23/07)

I think the Virginia Tech. massacre was done by Feds.

1. A very detailed news which disappeared later

On 4/16, I heard the tragedy from local Chinese TV news. It reported that the gunman's visa was issued in Shanghai, and his entry port was San Francisco. My first thought was: "How efficient they are. They got everything right away." Then I became suspicious. Shanghai? My family came from Shanghai. San Francisco? My parents, my sisters live in San Francisco, and have their business there. Next day was 4/17, the day I alleged for the breakout of a framed case. In message of March, I alleged the Feds had collaborated with Chinese secret police for a new drug case. The V.T. killer, obviously was a Chinese, according to the news. Was that part of new plot? When people didn't know what exactly happened inside Virginia Tech. was that strange we got such a detail news on 4/16? Nobody could have that detail except Feds. And nobody could release that to the media except Feds.

Here is the reference for that news. Watch the date the news was issuing. That news now is not available in Sun-Times URL. It was replaced by some different description.
Re: "Gunman kills 32 at Virginia Tech before being killed

April 16, 2007
BY MICHAEL SNEED Sun-Times Columnist

Sneed hears authorities were investigating whether the gunman who killed 32 people in a rampage on the Virginia Tech campus was a Chinese national who arrived in the United States last year on a student visa.

The 25-year-old man being investigated for the deadliest college carnage in U.S. history reportedly arrived in San Francisco on a United Airlines flight on Aug. 7, 2006, on a visa issued in Shanghai, the source said. Investigators had not linked him to any terrorist groups, the source added."
2. The purpose of Virginia Tech. massacre
The US intelligence used to influence American people by media with psychological operation. The news about WMD, the mushroom cloud threat, the film "300", numerous video tape of Bin Laden, Zhawahiri, Zhaqawi, the beheading tape of Nick Berg are all belong to this category. It is used to vilify Islamic and to inflame and agitate people. What if the plot was successful to their plan? People would have believed what Feds told them: the Chinese (Shanghainese) were evil people. They did drug smuggling; they massacre American students.
The most important role of V.T. killing was: it was planned to distract. I have revealed since last October to this March, in each month there was a plot. Each time I emphasized that they used Iran war as distract. Though I talked a lot about April 17 plot, this time I haven't talked about Iran war because I found none. Did Feds abandon their tactic? No, distract is an important tactic in Feds plan. When it became a familiar one to the people, Feds replaced it by a massacre. They killed students as many as possible to make it the worst in US history. This news withdraws public attention from other would be news such like drug case or unusual death in police brutality.
3. The Chinese killer replaced by Cho Seung Hui.
Mercury News on next day reported "Gonzales hearing postponed in wake of campus shooting". I have viewed this hearing as a mark of 4/17 plot in which Attorney General " ..... He'll have one last chance to do that, and perhaps keep his job, when he testifies before the Senate Judiciary Committee on April 17." (see #477) Now it was postponed. It means the April plot was postponed. Then will China bear the accusation of "massacre American students"?
China is a big power. When it will to bear an unsavory reputation, the payment in secret deal must be huge. Now the plot went soured. Feds had to seek another replacement. That's why Cho Seung Hui became a killer. He is S. Korean. S. Korea, you know, a country controlled by US. (or protected by US, whatever you think) The image transfer is easy, at least it accords with the definition that "the killer is an Asian."
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481. Feds ordered stand down (2) (4/28/07)

4. A strange "stand down" after the first shooting occurred at 7:15. The police and University did nothing to pursue the killer and warn students that there was killer(s) at large. According to authority's story, Cho was the only one did all killings. He was given a two hours and a half to do his work without a disturbance. That was indeed a very generous gift from authority and an unbelievable negligence on security rule, particularly at the time after 911.

(1) Another strange news which disappeared later. The original news said the reason of no-reaction was that information showed that killer was out of state. But it took time for killer to escape out of state, even if he took a plane. And how could they learn that? Did they knew whom he was and tracked him all the time? Since the no-reaction was from the beginning, this was a justification with big flaw. It was never heard of since. Local officials didn't know the business out of state. This news, as well as that detail of Chinese suspect, obviously was from Feds too.

(2) If you were Cho Seung Hui, once you fired the first shoot, you knew you were on a road of no-return, would you do something else? In common sense, a killer would go on with his shooting spree because he knew there was little time left for him. The police would arrive in minutes. Would you still care for mailing something? But Cho seemed think in other way. He thought of he hadn't mailed the tapes, (Authority story was that tapes was not made on 4/16) It took him one hour and three quarters to bring the tapes to post office, (7:15 - 9:01) enough time for him to have a breakfast and do a laundry if he wished. Cho didn't worry about police arrest. He was right. Police and University did response with no re-action.

(3) “Setting up a series of roadblocks, controlling access to very large pieces of property, is very much routine on any university campus in Canada and in the United States,” Though it is a criminal negligence of no-response to the first two murders in University dorm, we saw little pressure to investigate and affix the responsibility of this massacre. Because it will trace to the Feds. ( Now they may try to find a scapegoat for it) They gave the order of "stand down". They need a history worst to distract another framed case.

Quote, "Feds Ordered VA Police To Stand Down
Local authorities were told to take no action to pursue killer

Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet
Friday, April 20, 2007

Police and EMT workers at Virginia Tech tell us that campus police were given a federal order to stand down and not pursue killer Cho Seung-Hui as Monday's bloodshed unfolded.

Though wishing to remain anonymous for obvious reasons, we have received calls from police and EMT's who tell us that a stand down order was in place, and this is also confirmed by eyewitness Matt Kazee, who is a student at VA Tech.

Kazee talked to local EMT's and police who told him the same thing, that the order was to wait until federal back up arrived before any action was taken. This explains the complete non-response of the police in the two hour gap between Cho's first two murders and the wider rampage that would follow later that morning.

The policy of federal control over the University was put in place following a previous shooting in August 2006 in which a police officer and a hospital security guard were killed.

In addition, a former long-term University police officer, George French, told the Alex Jones Show that it is routine to seal off a campus on which a suspected gunman is loose.

“Setting up a series of roadblocks, controlling access to very large pieces of property, is very much routine on any university campus in Canada and in the United States,” said French.

“After a double homicide, when you’re looking for a dangerous fellow with a firearm, I find it unfathomable that a series of roadblocks weren’t set up…to prevent the felon from escaping.”

French could find no logical conclusion other than deliberate inaction on the part of officials. “We have another coordinated, allowed event…the parallels are so common in each case; you can write the script in advance.”
(War Without End :: View topic - Sources: Feds Ordered VA Police To Stand Down)

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This is the dumbest ****ing thing I have ever read here. My eyes are now bleeding out all over my keyboard and to top it off I have been defrauded of about three minutes of my life with no chance of getting them back.

Thank you.

JeffMerriman said:

This is the dumbest ****ing thing I have ever read here. My eyes are now bleeding out all over my keyboard and to top it off I have been defrauded of about three minutes of my life with no chance of getting them back.

Thank you.

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I'd sue, but that's just me.

483. The video tape of Cho Seung Hui (3) (5/8/07)

483. The video tape of Cho Seung Hui (3) (5/8/07)

5. The man in video tape is not Cho Seung Hui.

(1) Cho's acquaintance and his roommates don't recognize the man in video tape.

Re: "A pastor at a Korean church in Centreville watched the tapes on television with his family. He told the Seoul newspaper JoongAng Ilbo, " All my family said that was not the Seung-Hui we knew. It was the first time we saw him speaking in full sentences." ("Shooter/ A lifetime of silence" Mercury News, 4/22/07)

Re: "April 18, MSNBC, Scarborough Country -- Michele Kosinski reports at about 10:13 PM eastern time that Cho's roommates say they do not recognize him in the film from the package sent to NBC."
Two Photos Of Cho Show Different Men (?)

Go to that site to compare the pictures. Though they are similar, the ratio of the head is a big difference. (the ratio of the length to width of the head) Different camera won't produce such big difference.

(2) The man in video has a different temperament from Cho Seung Hui.

We all know Cho was "extraordinary lonely", "a life time of silence". He is also very shy and avoid to be in focus. Re: "When a candidate for student council visited the suite this year to pass out candy and ask for votes, Cho refused even to make eye contact.". "Mary Shaw said yearbooks indicate that Cho's only extracurricular activity was the science club during his sophomore year. He did not supply a picture of himself for his senior yearbook.". ("Shooter/ Classmates feared he would kill", Mercury News, 4/18/07)

But in video, the man liked to show off himself. He made different posts with guns, even with a hammer. He spoke fluent sentences. He stares at the focus. In his package, there is not only an 1,800 words statement, (For a real Cho, that's enough) there are also video tape and 43 photographs. Is that too much for him?

(3) These characters don't fit for Cho, but fit for Feds. The video tape resembles other "terrorist" tapes used to broadcast in TV. Those tapes used to do a negative propaganda on "terrorists" themselves. Painted themselves extreme, violent, savage by arms in hand, shooting machine guns, or even beheading. Those tapes used to fit the demand of Pentagon and the Feds - "Don't look for other suspects. I, (terrorist, or criminal) did it." Is there anything else more convenient to solve a case by someone to confess?

Re: "U.S. Government Caught Red-Handed Releasing Staged Al-Qaeda Videos"
(U.S. Government Caught Red-Handed Releasing Staged Al-Qaeda Videos)

(4) An interesting message for reference.
Quote, "VIDEO PROOF THAT NBC FOOTAGE WAS NOT SHOT BY CHO ALONE
Posted By: Never_Surrender (Send E-Mail

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Date: Thursday, 19 April 2007, 10:01 p.m.

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Well let me ask a question then, if he shot it by himself, WHY is the camera shaking, like someone ELSE is holding it?
The CHO character is sitting perfectly still in FRONT of the camera and not touching the camera YET it is moving!

At one point in this video I could swear I hear someone cough or clear their throat off camera and at another point I think someone hits the camera and you can hear the BUMP sound or the THUD sound that it makes and it shakes a little....

I believe that what we have here is video proof that CHO did NOT make this video, there was someone else holding the camera, again, I do NOT even believe it is Cho in this video but I have covered that in another post.
Here is the video....

Embedded video does not appear to be showing up so here is link to video....
(Vlogging The Apocalypse :: Video :: NS)
(http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IssuesAndAlibis_The_Forum/message/18347)

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Re: 483. The video tape of Cho Seung Hui (3) (5/8/07)

kathaksung said:

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Please...don't.


Seriously.

484. Gunman is a professional killer(4) (5/13/07)

6. The gunman is not Cho Seung Hui.

(1) The gunman is a professional killer. Cho is a new comer. Cho bought the gun on March 13. (There were different saying about the other gun, but it was bought around that time too. ) Only one month before the shooting case. He practiced in a shooting range on Mar. 22. That's all his relationship to the gun.

But according to Professor of Criminology:
Quote, "Seung-Hui Cho Was a Mind Controlled Assassin

Charles Mesloh, Professor of Criminology at Florida Gulf Coast University, told NBC 2 News that he was shocked Cho could have killed 32 people with two handguns absent expert training. Mesloh immediately assumed that Cho must have used a shotgun or an assault rifle.

"I'm dumbfounded by the number of people he managed to kill with these weapons," said Mesloh, "The only thing I can figure is that he got close to them and he simply executed them."

Mesloh said the killer performed like a trained professional, "He had a 60% fatality rate with handguns - that's unheard of given 9 millimeters don't kill people instantly," said Mesloh, stating that the handguns Cho used were designed for "plinking at cans," not executing human beings."

(Seung-Hui Cho Was a Mind Controlled Assassin)

From media report, we know the weapon is not assault rifle. It is the 9 millimeter handgun and the killer shot at distance, (shooting at the door, not the execute style) So the gunman is a professional of the professionals.

(2) Cho was 5'8". Gunman is ""He was, I would say, about a little bit under six feet tall, young looking, Asian, dressed sort of strangely, almost like a Boy Scout, very short-sleeved light, tan shirt and some sort of ammo vest with black over it. He just stepped within five feet of the door and started firing.

"He seemed very thorough about it, getting almost everyone down. I was trying to act dead," the freshman mechanical engineering student says. "He left for about 30 seconds, came back in, did almost exactly the same thing. I guess he heard us still talking.
globeandmail.com: Opinions

(3) The gunman didn't want to be recognized.

If Cho planned this tragedy, he knew it was a way of no return. He was ready to die himself. It was unnecessary to cover up himself with masks or sunglass..... But the gunman did all the cover up. He seemed know he would be alive and didn't want to be recognized later.

Quote, " Pai Cheong Ming - 27 years old, an engineering student, came from S. Korea - was wounded in breast and arm and was in hospital. He told "Central Daily" (S. Korean Newspaper): "The gunman wore a mask covering face, his brown cap wore low to his eyes. He wore glass," (Though the news didn't say it's a sunglass, I think it should be, because Cho Seung Hui wore contact lens that morning according to his roommate. Or there was another killer.)

Pai Cheong Ming's description was quite different from others. I never saw it from "mainstream media". Perhaps because it would contradict to the Authority's story. I read it from a Chinese newspaper "The Epoch Times" April 20.

(4) If Cho real hated the "rich kids, debauchery and deceitful charlatans", then there must be some model he knew. He shoud target on these models. In fact, he chose unknown as victims.

All witnesses referred the killer as "gunman" or "he". No one call the killer "Cho". It means they don't know Cho. Only media describe the killer as Cho. Did they witness the scene?

(5) Another mark of Feds: Silence the witness.

For a random killer, Cho should pick up easy one to shoot at. He should go on to other classroom where there were plenty of easy targets. But he came back to kill the survivor. "He seemed very thorough about it", "I was trying to act dead" he came back "I guess he heard us still talking" (see reference in (2)) Cho has no reason to be thorough on people he didn't know.
It is only a mark of Mafia or the Feds. They kill witness of their crime. Mafia has no motive in this case. Feds does. (see "480. The real killer behind Virginia Tech. massacre (1) (4/23/07)")

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I thought I asked you not to do this.

Wasn't the VT Killer Korean? Wait I think I missed the point of this thread...

485. Media censorship on VT case (5) (5/18/07)

7. The issue media accepted and rejected.

(1) For a crime, media used to have a field report. It used to come with a map. Investigate reporter would track every step of the killer to detail the story in minute. VT shooting is the worst camp case in US history. There is no such report. What happened in the dorm when first two people were killed? how many classrooms in Norris Hall building? What did other students in same building react during shooting? There is not a word about that. Different media reported odds and bits from survivors but all silenced later about this case.

(2) The no response of the police and University after the first two killings was the main reason that caused the later mass killing. Media has the responsibility to supervise the government. The criminal negligence should be the big issue in first page. Yet, no media had an article about it. They distract this big topic by gun ban. Let the big criminal skip away.

(3) Instead of reporting the detail of the whole story which might reveal the flaws of the framed case, media concentrated to report Cho's private life, tried to prove he is the real killer. I went through all these materials, find nothing could prove Cho was a violent man. True, he was lonely, life time silent. It fits for a word: autism. But media avoid this word, attribute all these for the killing spree. To prove Cho was anger, they said he wrote violent and profane plays. They even gave a sample of his play. "I hate him." the boy says of the stepfather in a copy of the play on the Web site. "Must kill Dick. Must kill Dick. Dick must die."

It's ridiculous. With such standard to judge a person, Shakespeare would be a big suspect. So were many ancient Greek tragedy writers. Hitch **** (spelling?) - a terror film producer, would be a suspect too, so was Spieldsburg (spelling? who produces film Indiana Jones, the Temple of Doom).

Cho's only relationship to violence was that he bought a gun (or two) on March 13 and practiced one hour in a shooting ranch of March 22. I think he was going for an operation. Before I talk about this, I'd like you to read a news:

8. Cho was under surveillance

Re: "Cho went to bed early by college standards, about 9p.m. He often rose early, but in recent weeks he had been rising even earlier, frequently before dawn, Aust said. Such was the case Monday.

Cho awoke before 5 a.m., then sat down to work on his computer and awakened his roommate in the process. Grewal, who shares a room in the same suite, saw Cho in the bathroom shortly after 5 a.m.

As usual, Cho did not say anything to Grewal. No good morning, no hello, Grewal said. Cho stood in the bathroom, brushing his teeth, wetting his contact lenses and applying a moisturizer.

He also took a prescription medicine, though neither Aust nor Grewal knew what the medication was for." (Mercury News "Shooter/ classmates feared he would kill", 4/18/07)

To get up early before dawn is not popular, especially for those who do not habituate to. Did Cho's suitemate follow up Cho's routine? The description was so detailed that it seems like Cho was under surveillance.

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kathaksung said:

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Please. Stop. Go get help for your mental retardation.

487. Informants troop (6) (5/28/07)

8. Cho was under surveillance

If you used to get up at 7:am, when your family member get up before 5.a.m. would you follow up him(her)? Generally, people would go on with their sleep. Do you have habit to follow up your family member to the bathroom? Generally people don't bother others in bathroom unless there is emergency.

Re: " "Caught in the backlash", (ACLU reported on 11/13/01),

Charlotte Wu, a 20 years old student of UC Berkley, was visited by 3 policemen of camps about one month after 911 last year. It's about 30 minutes after she finished a phone call. In phone call, she instructed her friends how to play an internet game. It's a spy game. Player must put bomb at the foot of wall to break it. Policemen questioned her why she talked about spy and bomb on the phone. At last, she had to go to her friend's place with police to clarify it. Lucky enough, her friend was still playing that spy and bomb game.

Charlotte Wu never talked to policemen for all her 19 years experience. (She was 19 then) She was very scare and wonder how could police know what she said in phone call. Policemen didn't explain.

She may never know her phone is under surveillance if she hadn't talked about spy and bomb.

http://www.aclunc.org/911/backlash/wu.html

http://www.aberdeennews.com/mld/aberdeennews/news/nation/4519596.htm

(I learned this from "World Journal" of 11/14/2002 in which it said Ms. Wu still didn't know how police could know her phone call one year later. Several days later a message told me it was reported by her suite-mate. I am surprised at that for the whole year Ms. Wu hadn't got an explanation from police, now when it became a news, they said it was from an informer. Some response said it was Echelon or Carnivore. So despite of the surveillance system on communication, there maybe a surveillance net of informant? No wonder Ashcroft proposed TIPS programme of one million informants.)

There were other cases indicated informant are everywhere.

In July, 2006, news reported the Miami terror cell case. In which FBI sent an informant, disguised as Al Qaida messenger, to direct the group to attack FBI office throughout the country.

In May, 2007, news reported the extremists group plotted to attack Fort Dix. In which FBI sent an informant to offer the group the assault rifles.

Remember, FBI doesn't have a crystal ball which can tell it where there is a terror cell. There must be a surveillance net gave it the information. So before Feds could send out a directive informant to set up the case, there was an informer there already.

From above samples, we know how densely and thickly the informant are used. Each dorm of the university or about average six people there is one informer. This is a spy country.

In July 2002, former Attorney General Ashcroft announced Operation TIPS in which government will recruit one million mail carriers, utility readers..... to be informants to report suspicious event. . I at first wondered how could the Feds recruit one million people in a short period. How big is US Army? One million and something. It's almost another Pentagon to recruit one million informants. Then as I get familiar with Feds, I knew they have that informant troops already. Operation TIPS is only an attempt to turn one million of that troops from the underground to formal establishment.

Cho Seung Hui's behave in bathroom at about 5 a.m. on 4/16/07 was recorded either by a needle point camera or some people's mind. It means he was under close surveillance that particular day. Because he would play an important role in the coming tragedy - a scapegoat of the massacre. Feds didn't want their plan go wrong.

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488. S.S.G. and Cho Seung Hui (7) (6/3/07)

9. Cho was recruited as S.S.G.

Informants used to watch and report other people in daily life. But when there is an operation, they will be called to look out, to be "reliable witness", even take part in the operation. Their name then are "Special Support Group".

Re: ," The FBI Special Support Group , or SSG (They're nicknamed G's), supposedly does much of the routine work for the Bureau, leaving the FBI agents themselves free to pursue more important matters. ...

They usually work part-time, and earn about $5,000.00 - $10,000.00 per year or more. The FBI doesn't advertise the existence of the SSG, but it's no big secret either. The reality of the Special Support Group is much different than the "released" information. SSG teams regularly harass and even menace people on the FBI's Black List. ...

The FBI calls this harassment "dangling," and they do it on a regular basis to people who frequently have committed no offense other than to have drawn the ire of the Bureau. Many SSG's are of the lowest caliber of human life, especially those chosen for excessive harassment of innocent citizens. Far too often SSG teams consist of bullies, perverts, racists and ex-convicts and other dregs whose sole purpose is to drive people crazy and ruin their lives. If one of their victims snaps and tears one of them up, the bloodied G will press charges, perjure himself if confronted with his FBI affiliation, and the victim is locked up. Mission accomplished. That's one reason why the FBI is not very open about the SSG. This is just one of the many questionable and outright illegal activities that the FBI uses our tax dollars for. The very people sworn to uphold our Civil Rights are perhaps the most flagrant violators. If you attend a protest rally, or otherwise call attention to yourself, don't be surprised if you start seeing the same bizarre group of people showing up everywhere you go, bothering you and behaving like psychotic clowns."

http://www.angelfire.com/ny5/tradecencrimes/page447.html

Harassing people is only the open side S.S.G.does. Covertly they used to support Feds in their operation: Muhammad and Malvo were accused of as the snipers in DC sniper shooting spree. They were also accused of involved in a murder case in Alabama. In that case, two women were shot when they closed a liquor store at night. One died, one seriously wounded. When patrol police arrived, they saw Muhammad was searching the victim's purse, with a handgun in his right hand. Malvo was about 50 yards away, possibly acting as a lookout. When police chased Muhammad through a parking lot, a blue car darted out to block the way of police. Muhammad thus escaped. Later, law enforcement agent proved the woman died of a rifle shot which was used in DC sniper shooting later.

So, in Alabama case, there were more people involved: the real gunman with a rifle. (Muhammad holding a handgun) and the man who drove the car to block police's chasing. Muhammad and Malvo were possible sacrifice. They worked in front line: checking the victim and looking out. Took the risk to be arrested. Muhammad may also have another job: to be thorough on victims. That was to kill the undead. The seriously wounded woman was lucky enough that police car arrived on time. Or her wound was so serious (shoot at neck) that Muhammad thought she was dead. (see: "115. The third leg in Alabama shooting case. (2/17)")

I think Cho Seung Hui was recruited as an informant and played the same role Muhammad and Malvo played in Alabama case. He was instructed to buy a handgun and then was ordered to practice it in a shooting ranch in March, all purposed to take part in the Virginia Tech. shooting operation. I reached this conclusion after I read another news.

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492. S.S.G. in VT shooting spree (8) (6/23/07)

10. The two key person in VT case practiced in shooting range shortly before the VT killing.

The news made me think Cho was instructed by an organization to buy a gun and practice it in a shooting range .

Re: " Camps/ Thousands gather at memorials

VT Police Chief Wendell Flinchum said police had not entirely ruled out the possibility that two people were involved. (in camp shooting) ......

The person of interest was identified as Karl David Thornhill of Blacksburg. According to federal affidavits released Tuesday, Thornhill was said to be a friend of Emily Hilscher, the woman killed in the first shooting. Police wanted to talk to him because the woman's roommate, Heather Haugh, told them Thornhill and Hilscer fired guns at a shooting range as recently as two weeks ago.

Some reports Monday indicated that Cho was angry at Hilscher for breaking off a romantic relationship. Haugh said Tuesday that she did not believe Hilscher knew Cho."
(Mercury News 4/18/2007)

1. E. Hilscher was a freshman, Cho was at his final year of education. And Cho was a lonely, silent person who avoid personal communication. There was rare chance for them to meet together. Hilscher's roommate proved it.

2. The story that Cho had a romantic relationship with Hilscher could be used to justify why Hilscher was selected as first victim to be shot at. But it came out without any foundation. So who had the motive to create that story?

3. When police didn't rule out the possibility that two people were involved in shooting case, what made them to think so? Remember the man of interesting was not an oriental but Karl David Thornhill. Someone may have witnessed the person with Hilscher at her last moment was not an oriental but a similar racial like K.D.Thornhill. Boy friend does not necessary become a suspect when a woman was murdered.

4. The most important thing is that Hilscher, a woman of 18 (?) and Cho were least likely to have a gun hobby. But they suddenly went to the shooting ranch to practice the gun just weeks before the VT shooting case. One was the first victim in the case and the other was accused of being gunman, both were the key figure in that big tragedy, was it a coincidence? Shooting range is certainly not a popular thing as cinema. Were they preparing for something? Or most likely, they were instructed or led to do so. Which organization was powerful enough to force them to do it?

5. To my knowledge with the Feds, they prepared with support group which would give cover up and "reliable witness" for each case let alone the big one such like Virginia Tech. massacre.
I think Hilscher and Cho were all recruited informant and were used as S.S.G. in this case. (there probably were more S.S.G. in this event, only we never know.)

6. Then why Emily Hilscher was killed as first victim?
Not everyone is as evil as the Feds. Hilscher may have thought it was fun to work for the intelligence. To follow the suspect to the beach, luxury hotel and casinos, exciting and romantic life like what she saw in film "007". When she was told her job was to kill the undead innocent students, her morale told her to refuse such a mission. She was instantly killed by her handler.

I think Hilscher's death was an incident, not in Feds plan. S.S.G. used to be instructed their detailed work at the last minute before they were sent to carry out their mission if it was a secret job. This one was a top secret. Since there was a Feds command team for that plot in Virginia Tech. on 4/16 already, so there could be a "stand down" order immediately from Feds to local police. They didn't want their plan to be disrupted. The local police also was told the suspect was out of state, an information only Feds could give. And to tie Cho with Hilscher, they even developed a story of romance later.

But even they have that story, it's still a big flaw that Cho killed two people in dormitory, then went on for other business for more than two and half hour, then came back to go on with his shooting spree. It doesn't make sense. Could you imagine that the two gunmen in Columbine High, went to school, killed a teacher, then left for a breakfast in McDonald, then came back continue with their shootings?

As a matter of fact, Cho, (or some other S.S.G.) like other students, didn't know there was a shooting happened in the dorm two hours ago. (The information was censored that morning.) So he could unhurriedly chained the door of Noris building to the plan.

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494. Preconception, a tactic of the Feds (9)(7/3/07)

I used to remind people that a terror attack may come when there is a news about terror case or terror warning from government. I think it is a psychological operation of the intelligence. They pre-settle public's mind for the coming event they plotted. The news of Al Qaida/Taliban suicide teams (see #493) is a typical sample. When that kind of bombing happens, the first thing goes to public's mind will be: it must be done by Al Qaida. The real criminal will be ignored.

On 6/28, I alerted people that there might be massive suicide bombings in Europe and US.(see #493) Next day and the day after, there were three car bombing cases in UK. I think it was part of the July 4th plot.

11. VT case was originally planned as a Terror attack.

In Virginia Tech. shooting case, Feds also had a preconception process. They had issued an article about "terrorist attack school" two weeks before VT shooting case. I have been alarmed by that article in early April and posted a reply to that message. I immediately recalled the article when the massacre took place and back traced it.

Re: Terrorists - coming to a school near you
Police ill-equipped to defend against an American Beslan
Posted: April 2, 2007
Authorities fear the school massacre that shook Russia a few years ago may be a dress rehearsal for what al-Qaida plans to do in America - only on a grander scale, launching multiple school attacks simultaneously across the country.
In 2004, Chechen terrorists associated with al-Qaida seized a school building in Beslan, Russia, and slaughtered 338, including 172 children.
Three years later, schools and local police in this country are still unprepared to deal with such an assault, experts warn. Most don't have response plans for handling a single active shooter, let alone a cell of trained terrorists launching a large-scale attack.

WorldNetDaily: Terrorists – coming to a school near you

Clues show that the VT shooting case originally was planned as a "terror case".

Re: "Bomb threats last two weeks
Police said there had been bomb threats on campus over the past two weeks but that they had not determined a link to the shootings."

<http://infowars.com/articles/us/va_tech_shooter_was_mind_controlled_assassin.htm>

Re: "Virginia School Shooting: Another Government Black-Op?

The shootings came three days after a bomb threat Friday forced the cancellation of classes in three buildings, WDBJ in Roanoke reported. Also, the 100,000-square-foot Torgersen Hall was evacuated April 2 after police received a written bomb threat, The Roanoke Times reported. "

Virginia School Shooting: Another Government Black-Op?

We can see how the warning article matches the bomb threat in Virginia Tech. camps.
4/2. Article of terror attack on school issued.
4/2. First bomb threat in Virginia Tech.
4/13. last bomb threat in Virginia Tech.
4/16. Shooting spree in Virginia Tech.

In massive reports from the mainstream media after the case broke off, there were few words about the bomb threat. Because Feds changed their tactic at last minute. So the propaganda was concentrated on individual gunman instead of "terror bombing".

(to be continued)

496. Cover up and demonize ( VT shooting case 11) (7/13/07)

Distract is a very important tactic Feds used to use. A terror bombing in school could well achieved the goal. Then why did the Feds changed their tactic in last minute? Because terror bombing in school only distract, an Oriental gunman kill US students could achieve more.

The extra advantage if it was a Chinese gunman who did the VT shooting.

1. A hostility between China and US in appearance would cover up the collaboration of the secret police of these two countries in this case.
2. Demonize the Chinese because the main target of the whole plot were Chinese Americans. They would be wronged in a framed drug case. It's a psychological operation: let people believe Chinese were criminals.

Here is my experience of this tactic.

1. Re: "Because of persecution on me was intensified at that time, I left for HongKong in March, 1999. The visa granted me a three months stay in HongKong. My wife and parents urged me to go to Shanghai but I refused. I had been there in 1994 and 1995. The bitter experience then told me Chinese secret police was co-operated with US agents in persecution. I told them I'd go somewhere else but not China.

On 5/8, NATO bombed Chinese Embassy in Yugoslavia. Three missiles hit the building and caused three deaths. The official explanation was that army Misunderstood the target by using an old map. Of course most people don't believe it. There were big protest in China and HongKong. Media reported anti-US sentiment growing in China. I fell in that propaganda. And thought that in such a situation, China secret police might not work so eagerly for US agency. Maybe I would be safe to go to China at this time?

I visited Chinese travel agency in later May. And applied for a visa there on 6/1.

Then I was hesitated because there was an unusual warm welcome from my relatives. One lesson for me after the drug case is the drift apart of friends and relatives. (see "9. Estranged friends and customers") People were intimidated by agents. Though they won't refuse if I ask for help. To actively welcome a person of "trouble" is perversive. With continued call from my relatives in Shanghai, I had a feeling the invitation were from secret agent. After a re-consideration, I decided to go to South-east Asia.

I was once curious at the event of Chinese Embassy bombing. Was it a designated one or a coincidence? I was almost fell in that psychology trap and went for a dangerous trip to China. But in 1999, it seemed NATO was far from FBI, DEA. "You may over sensitive." I told myself. (That missile bombing actually was done by Pentagon without acknowledge to NATO)

Later development proved my suspicion is reasonable. Similar event re-acted in 2001." (see #193)

2. Re: "194. D.o.D. worked for D.o.J. (1/6/04)

In April 2001, an US EP-3 spy plane collided with a Chinese fighter above South China sea and was forced landing in HaiNan Island of China. In same month both directors of FBI and DEA announced resignation that they would leave in June.

A news in internet revealed that FBI and DEA took part in a secret deal in which they paid a large sum of money to China to release the spy plane and the crew. (The main point of that secret deal was to frame a drug case original from China) I realized in the name of solving spy plane crisis, D.o.J. bribed Chinese secret police to frame a drug case on me. The attempt repeated several times and finally proved by the break out of Fujian drug case. (see attempted drug case at message #61 to 65. See spy plane case at: 'Why DEA, FBI involved in secret deal of spy plane?'
http://hometown.aol.com/sunkat563/myhomepage/profile.html
See Fujiang drug case at messages: 141,142,143,150, 155)

The two accidents (bombing Chinese Embassy in Yugoslavia and collision of spy plane)
played cover up role for the plot of D.o.J.. They create a hostile appearance between US and China to make any plot more deceivable. People would hardly believe there was a conspiracy between two hostile countries. So they would believe framed drug case a true one."

So on the day of 4/16, when the TV reported the heavy casulty in VT shooting spree and it was done by a "Chinese who came from Shanghai via San Francisco." I realized it was created for my case.

(to be continued)

498. Why VT shooting planned on 4/16 (12) (7/23/07)

On 4/8 and 4/13, I wrote #477 and #478, alleged there was an April plot and the action date would be 4/17. I thought Feds planned an unreasonable search that day based on I would file a tax return that day. With which as a reason they would activate a field raid to frame a drug case. (Detail see "478. April plot and tax return (4/13/07)")

I didn't file tax return last year because I don't have to - I have little income which is below the margin IRS requires to file. IRS has no reason to raid a discontinued account unless there is special reason. I believe IRS told Feds (DOJ, FBI, DEA) to provoke me to re-file the tax return so they could have a reason to raid.

That was what I saw in bank statement in later March that IRS had added a refund at my account. I asked my wife why she used my account for tax purpose since we separate our finance for nearly a year. She said it was probably the last year's when she still used the joint account. But several days later (in early April) my wife informed me that IRS would withdraw from my account more than thousand dollars. Because there was just a refund from IRS, she had to admit that this time the withdrawal was from this year's tax file. (2007 file for fiscal year 2006) Of course, she had no words to explain why she used my account for her own tax return.

It really rattled me. Obviously, Feds tried to tie me to my wife's tax return. Last year, my wife and accountant firm filed a return without my consent which deliberately under reported and mis-reported. I had to separate my finance from my wife's because I didn't know what she actually did. But it seems that she still tied me with her tax return by my bank account. I guess she and the accountant firm might still file tax return as joint account without my consent. (with no my signature)

What the best way I can do? Maybe I should file a separate tax return (although I don't have to because I have little income) to prove my finance is separated from my wife? I almost did so before I realizing this was another trap. (I'll talk about it next time)

On 4/17, my wife left for a two weeks' trip. I learned it when she chatted with friend several days before. She refused to tell me where she would go when I asked her. Now I still don't know where had she been in these 16 days. So if something happened on 4/17, nobody knew what took place at my home. And to my experience, my wife would be murdered too in her travel. She played a role in the plot and could be a witness. Similar scene had been acted in 2005 when she, too, took a trip between 9/22 - 9/29. That was for 9/24 plot - a big plot in a created event famous for Katrina and Rita Hurricane. (see "339. The September plot (9/2/05)")

Why it was 4/16? Because I used to mail tax return on the day before the last day. ( in case something un-expected happens on the last day). So when I heard the news of VT shooting spree, I talked to myself, "Gosh, they (Feds) really studied my habit."

If Cho Seung Hui was the real gunman, then he should have been identified immediately. Because no dead person else should have a gun (or two guns) and bullets in his pocket. (You don't expect that when police broke in the building was the time he just exhausted his bullets, do you?)
But it took a day to identify him.
Quote, "MSNBC's FBI profiler: 'students lined up and shot execution style'

19 hours after the first shooting, the shooter(s) has/have not been identified. [00:15 EDT 17 Apr 2007]
Dead Gunman Yet to Be ID'd 16 Apr 2007 In a press conference tonight"

The fact is: The shooting spree took place at about 9:39 am, 4/16.
The gunman was a Chinese from Shanghai via San Francisco was reported several hours later on same day. Very efficient.
Another report that gunman was out of state broadcast at same time. Very efficient too.
Only next day ( 4/17), people knew the gunman was Cho Seung Hui.
On 4/18, large quantity of Cho's life were reported by media. What he said, what he wrote, his life details. All got in hours. Very very efficient. Seems there was a file get ready already. (consider Cho's ID revealed on 4/17 and the newspaper must be printed at midnight of 4/17)

Then why the gunman's ID was released so inefficient? My interpretation is: Feds was waiting for a tax return to be mailed that day. When I didn't do it, they knew plan went soured. Feds released a second scheme the next day. (Cho became gunman.)

My family came from Shanghai and live in San Francisco. I allege Feds framed a big drug case on me and my family. I talk about this very clearly. I also predicted 4/17 was their action day. Obviously their first scheme of VT shooting spree tried to connect the gunman to my case. Please read the origin news again at #480.

(to be continued)

:screwy

yet the sage continues.....

I was going to pick apart this whole thing and point out all the inconsistencies and frangments but really.....just reading this does the job already :shrug:

500. IRS raid (8/3/07)

In later March, I learned from my bank statement that IRS has added a refund at the balance. I think it was a tactic Feds tried to tie me to my wife's tax file. A trick to push me to file my own to separate from my wife's. If there were two conflict tax files, then Feds could do a field raid (in the name of IRS). I didn't react.

Then in early April, my wife noticed me that IRS would withdraw thousand of dollars from my account. It was interesting to observe the psychology of the Feds. When they saw I didn't response, they thought that was because increasing balance wouldn't touch me. They immediately change the method by decreasing the balance. But I would not know there was a withdrawal until in later April when I received monthly statement. What Feds wanted was to push me filing another tax return. The final date was 4/17. So they let my wife inform me orally. How could she know what IRS would do on my account?

At same time, there was something unusual happened.

In later March, my wife told me that Lady R.P. (a relative of hers who live in Philippines) having a trip in US and would live at my home for several days. Lady R.P. had stayed at my home for a short period 17 years ago. She didn't come this time anyway. Then in early April, Mrs. Mao visited my house. She said she intended to live at my house for several days too. (Mrs. Mao was my tenant about 20 years ago.) The sudden requests to live at my house were unusual, apparently it was arranged by Feds. What was their purpose? I puzzled.

A rain forecast solved my problem.

In that period, for continual Saturdays, the weather forecast reported rain. It was evident when there was only one rain logo (for Saturday) compare with other days' sun logo. I knew why. It was a trick to frame my brother in law to a drug case. His merchandise - umbrella - came from China. Secret police must have planted drug in it. My brother in law would deliver umbrella himself at week-ends when his employee were on vacation

Anyhow, there was little rain on Saturdays because Feds had to frame me first. Then I saw a change. On 4/9, it forecast 4/11 (Wednesday) as rain day. I was watchful on rain days because I collect rain water. (Feds has poisoned tap water and sometimes contaminated it
with radioactive material.) I knew Feds controlled the weather these particular days, they had no reason to supply me the water I needed. So there was other purpose.

I worried there would be a house raid in the name of "IRS". Should I collect rainwater on Wednesday? Then the raid team could coincidentally meet me at front yard. All of a sudden, I solved the puzzle of request to "live at my house".

I don't answer the door when I am home alone. "IRS" team may not enter my home unless there was someone else at the house. So Feds planted someone to answer the door. But why they changed Lady R.P. with Mrs. Mao? Because Lady R.P. speaks English. The search, anyhow, would be an unreasonable search. There would be argument. Feds didn't want a witness telling the truth. So they changed her by Mrs. Mao - an old Chinese lady speaks little English. And finally, they decided no one should witness the truth. They thought of rain.

Feds really did a lot of work in April plot. They manipulated IRS to access my bank account in a month, by first adding some money then withdrawing some. They really studied my behavior and relative history by picking up two people whom had once lived at my house so I could hardly refuse their request. I surprisingly saw how quickly they changed their scheme several times by answer door people to natural rain.

I didn't do to the Feds' wish. So there was little rain and no one come to live at my house in the end.

If everything went on to their plan, Virginia Tech would have a terror bombing to distract in early April. That's how we saw bombing threat from 4/2 to 4/13. (see #494)

God that post was hurtful to read. The Virginia Tech massacre was at fault of Cho the kid was extremely sick in the head and nobody picked up on it. This load of Alex Jones type theories are soooo ridiculous.