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CIA stooge Peter Bergen pîssed NY Times dares to claim little evidence OBL [W:166]

Why do you need my state of mind to figure out what most intelligent and educated people are fully aware of?

Of course they won't, the US government hides everything about OBL and only spews what it wants everyone to believe.

Yeah especially Mafia style assassination missions. It's not uncommon for the US government to classify all its crimes, especially its war crimes. It takes hackers and whistle blowers to expose the US government's crimes. And you know what the US government does with those people, right?

You do realize that the polls show the more educated someone was the LEAST likely they were to believe 9/11 was an inside job.....

Right?

I mean you have only been shown dozens of times....

Oh, wait. You ignore facts like that.
 
Why do you need my state of mind to figure out what most intelligent and educated people are fully aware of?



Of course they won't, the US government hides everything about OBL and only spews what it wants everyone to believe.



Yeah especially Mafia style assassination missions. It's not uncommon for the US government to classify all its crimes, especially its war crimes. It takes hackers and whistle blowers to expose the US government's crimes. And you know what the US government does with those people, right?

You asked the question. I answered
Yes most intelligent and educated people are fully aware of your bs.
 
Why do you need my state of mind to figure out what most intelligent and educated people are fully aware of (that the US government lies all the time)?

Yes most intelligent and educated people are fully aware of your bs.

I certainly understand your faith in the US government. I don't blame you, tens of millions Americans feel the US government provides security. They readily give up their rights for the security the US government provides them with. It doesn't even matter to them that 9/11 happened and the US government provided no security, they were told "no one could have imagined ..." and they bought that because the US government told them it was impossible for its $multi-trillion intelligence/defense apparatus to prevent it from happening ("imagination" is not part of the US government's collective mentality). And they would never lie about that. So that the US government lies is absolute BS, every intelligent person trusts the US government. Congratulations on your extreme intelligence, I certainly wouldn't want to shake your faith.
 
I certainly understand your faith in the US government. I don't blame you, tens of millions Americans feel the US government provides security. They readily give up their rights for the security the US government provides them with. It doesn't even matter to them that 9/11 happened and the US government provided no security, they were told "no one could have imagined ..." and they bought that because the US government told them it was impossible for its $multi-trillion intelligence/defense apparatus to prevent it from happening ("imagination" is not part of the US government's collective mentality). And they would never lie about that. So that the US government lies is absolute BS, every intelligent person trusts the US government. Congratulations on your extreme intelligence, I certainly wouldn't want to shake your faith.

It has nothing to do about faith in government rather faith in the evidence.
 
It has nothing to do about faith in government rather faith in the evidence.

Exactly. But some don't want evidence/facts to get in the way of the hatred and mistrust of the Govt.

What I object to is the lumping of all govt. personnel into the same category. Heck one poster stated that the National Weather Service should be considered not telling the truth when weather warnings are given. Same goes for NTSB. Each accident investigation is a lie until proven otherwise to them.

Good grief.:mrgreen:
 
But some don't want evidence/facts to get in the way of the hatred and mistrust of the Govt.

You mean the same entity that hides all the evidence/facts (except the crumbs that paint a story they want everyone to believe)? Yeah why would anyone hate and mistrust a government that lies all the time and hides all the evidence/facts? Some people are so gullible.
 
You mean the same entity that hides all the evidence/facts (except the crumbs that paint a story they want everyone to believe)? Yeah why would anyone hate and mistrust a government that lies all the time and hides all the evidence/facts? Some people are so gullible.

Hides all the.evidence/facts?

Hyperbolic nonsense.
 
You mean the same entity that hides all the evidence/facts (except the crumbs that paint a story they want everyone to believe)? Yeah why would anyone hate and mistrust a government that lies all the time and hides all the evidence/facts? Some people are so gullible.

"hides all the evidence/facts". So is what has been released fake?

In your view/opinion should special ops mission reports be made public?
 
"hides all the evidence/facts". So is what has been released fake?

I don't know. Unfortunately, when the US government lies all the time and hides everything significant, what is there left that's trustworthy? Who in their right mind would trust a pathological liar who hides so much? Most of the so-called (spoon fed) evidence is never independently confirmed by any trustworthy source and can only be taken on faith. The vast majority of the rest is hidden under false pretenses.

In your view/opinion should special ops mission reports be made public?

There should be valid, independent oversight, accountability, credibility, etc. Assassination missions are illegal, there is no authority under the US Constitution for the US government to carry out cold blooded murder, in fact, it is strictly prohibited. It should be publicized when it is illegal, found out and prosecuted. No valid justice system exists when it is routinely circumvented by authority under any pretext. This nation was founded as a result of this very same kind of criminality that was pervasively and routinely conducted by King George III (see Declaration of Independence for a list of grievances, most apply today).

In this case, even if the official OBL story is true, it was clearly an assassination mission by the US government's own account. There is no logic behind the failure of a crackerjack SEAL team to capture the unarmed suspect and bring him back to face trial in a US court of law. There is no logic behind dumping his body into the ocean despite the absurd reasoning given by the US government. None of it makes sense other than to scam the world. It's just like the rest of the official 9/11 story, all garbage that only blithering idiots would buy.
 
I don't know. Unfortunately, when the US government lies all the time and hides everything significant, what is there left that's trustworthy? Who in their right mind would trust a pathological liar who hides so much? Most of the so-called (spoon fed) evidence is never independently confirmed by any trustworthy source and can only be taken on faith. The vast majority of the rest is hidden under false pretenses.



There should be valid, independent oversight, accountability, credibility, etc. Assassination missions are illegal, there is no authority under the US Constitution for the US government to carry out cold blooded murder, in fact, it is strictly prohibited. It should be publicized when it is illegal, found out and prosecuted. No valid justice system exists when it is routinely circumvented by authority under any pretext. This nation was founded as a result of this very same kind of criminality that was pervasively and routinely conducted by King George III (see Declaration of Independence for a list of grievances, most apply today).

In this case, even if the official OBL story is true, it was clearly an assassination mission by the US government's own account. There is no logic behind the failure of a crackerjack SEAL team to capture the unarmed suspect and bring him back to face trial in a US court of law. There is no logic behind dumping his body into the ocean despite the absurd reasoning given by the US government. None of it makes sense other than to scam the world. It's just like the rest of the official 9/11 story, all garbage that only blithering idiots would buy.

One thing great about the US, you can have an opinion. Your statements about logic is based on your view of the event.

While OBL was unarmed there were weapons in the room. Guess you believe none of the other OBL people were armed. You know, just walk OBL out to the helicopter and fly off.
No problems, right?:mrgreen:

Thanks for the attempt at an insult. I have not to call you names or stated how illogical your statements are. Thought adults could discuss an event without name calling.
Guess I was wrong.
 
One thing great about the US, you can have an opinion.

You can have an opinion no matter where you are on this planet. Voicing it though may be a problem in some parts.

Your statements about logic is based on your view of the event.

Not true, it's based on the official government propaganda story. I don't have any idea what event took place, if any did indeed take place or what actually took place. I only have the US government's ever changing story, which has zero credibility.

While OBL was unarmed there were weapons in the room. Guess you believe none of the other OBL people were armed. You know, just walk OBL out to the helicopter and fly off.
No problems, right?:mrgreen:

See above.

Thanks for the attempt at an insult. I have not to call you names or stated how illogical your statements are. Thought adults could discuss an event without name calling.
Guess I was wrong.

It is what it is.
 
You do realize that the polls show the more educated someone was the LEAST likely they were to believe 9/11 was an inside job.....

Right?

I mean you have only been shown dozens of times....

Oh, wait. You ignore facts like that.

Ad hom fallacies are fallacious.

What have I been shown "dozens of times" aside from fabrications of yours that is?

Have you actually watched all the various bin laden videos? No, you don't let facts interfere with your opinions.
 
Ad hom fallacies are fallacious.

What have I been shown "dozens of times" aside from fabrications of yours that is?

Have you actually watched all the various bin laden videos? No, you don't let facts interfere with your opinions.

What ad hom?

It is a CORRECT interpretation of the poll.
 
No, it is understanding what constitutes evidence and correctly interpreting it....

Reverting back to squirming, I see.

You went from "faith in the evidence" to "understanding what constitutes evidence and correctly interpreting it....".

A blimp of a squiggly squirm.
 
Reverting back to squirming, I see.

You went from "faith in the evidence" to "understanding what constitutes evidence and correctly interpreting it....".

A blimp of a squiggly squirm.

Really... Anyone can look at the sequence of bin laden tapes and he gets younger and younger as time goes on... Then, right before he's "killed" he's a decrepit old man.

Nobody cares that this had been the 9th or 10th time that he'd been killed already, starting in late 2001.
 
Really... Anyone can look at the sequence of bin laden tapes and he gets younger and younger as time goes on... Then, right before he's "killed" he's a decrepit old man.

Nobody cares that this had been the 9th or 10th time that he'd been killed already, starting in late 2001.

Citation?
 
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