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Physical Inventory of Flight 77?[W:99]

Re: Physical Inventory of Flight 77?

mike2810 said:
It is so funny how even those who troll cannot accept answers given to them

CT folks have stated , do your own research. Give it a try.
CT posters have stated no citations needed. Just following what they state.:lamo

When are you going to ask those who defend that Flight 77 did not hit the pentagon to provide a physical inventory of what did?

So provide a source of the inventory of what hit the Pentagon or blew it up? Then we can continue.
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So your only response is to make me responsible for what others have said? ROTFL

That is sad.

You accuse me of being a troll because Ive committed the ultimate sin of asking OCT defenders of an inventory list of flight 77. That is seriously freaking priceless.
 
Re: Physical Inventory of Flight 77?

Fledermaus said:
All that and you didn't even address what circumstances are needed for the.people who INVENTORY aircraft incidents not to inventory this incident.

NTSB/FAA

Contact them for the INVENTORY.
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You have responded what......10 times on this thread and have not even come close to answering the OP. If you had you would have provided the inventory list which you have NEVER provided. Do you need more time? It has only been 14+ years.
 
Re: Physical Inventory of Flight 77?

Brischera said:
So your only response is to make me responsible for what others have said? ROTFL

That is sad.

You accuse me of being a troll because Ive committed the ultimate sin of asking OCT defenders of an inventory list of flight 77. That is seriously freaking priceless.
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You can be considered trolling because the answer has been given time and again.

Who inventories aircraft components after an aircraft incident?
 
Re: Physical Inventory of Flight 77?

Brischera said:
You have responded what......10 times on this thread and have not even come close to answering the OP. If you had you would have provided the inventory list which you have NEVER provided. Do you need more time? It has only been 14+ years.
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OP ANSWERED.

Contact the floks who INVENTORY aircraft parts.
 
Re: Physical Inventory of Flight 77?

Fledermaus said:
All that and you didn't even address what circumstances are needed for the.people who INVENTORY aircraft incidents not to inventory this incident.

NTSB/FAA

Contact them for the INVENTORY.
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Neither organization is in charge for a crime scene and once again you fail to answer the OP. But thank you for proving you do not even know how the NTSB operates because you repeatedly told me to ask the wrong organization.
 
Re: Physical Inventory of Flight 77?

Fledermaus said:
OP ANSWERED.

Contact the floks who INVENTORY aircraft parts.
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Once again Fleder cannot answer the simple question on the inventory of 77.
 
Re: Physical Inventory of Flight 77?

Fledermaus said:
You can be considered trolling because the answer has been given time and again.

Who inventories aircraft components after an aircraft incident?
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ROTFL!!!!! Im trolling because you cannot give the answer? LOL....claiming the answer has been given is hilarious because if it were true you would have given the link. Just be honesty and admit you have never seen an inventory for flight 77.

As to answering your question, it depends on the circumstances as Ive already stated. If it is an accident it is the NTSB. If it is a crime it is the FBI.
 
Re: Physical Inventory of Flight 77?

Brischera said:
So your only response is to make me responsible for what others have said? ROTFL

That is sad.

You accuse me of being a troll because Ive committed the ultimate sin of asking OCT defenders of an inventory list of flight 77. That is seriously freaking priceless.
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No you dodge questions asked of you and expect posters to answer yours. The CT posters have had 14+ years to examine what you call the OCT. Let us look in detail what you accept.
Here is the challenge. Start a new thread. State what you believe happened at the Pentagon with citations. The govt reports can be used for info, but not address their conclusions. Then we can discuss.
 
Re: Physical Inventory of Flight 77?

Brischera said:
Did you actually try to use the myths site as a source to back up your claim?
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Argument from incredulity aside, no I did not. I posted a link to a photograph. If the source offends you for some irrational reason I can provide a link to the same photograph from a different source. It changes nothing. The pic is the pic and tells its story no matter what web site hosts it.

Okay. Two of the links failed and the third provides NOTHING to support your claim.

One more time.

Back up your claim:

"The FBI and NTSB had been removing aircraft wreckage for 3 days before your buddy showed up"
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All the links work just fine. If there is a problem, it is with you. Common sense alone says I am right. Even for those who lack common sense, a hi-res image of an FBI agent stepping over a fire hose while carrying a large piece of debris makes the point. I can't teach you common sense and I have zero interest in following you down another of your endless Rabbit holes which are designed only to derail the discussion and prevent progress.

I will close by adding in another obvious and self-evident common-sense fact: The Pentagon attack was by its nature not a typical plane crash. There was very little in the way of large, readily recognizable pieces of aircraft debris that a casual observer would recognize as aircraft debris. No significant, readily recognizable sections of wing, tailplane or fuselage survived the initial impact that the casual observer could point to and say "plane"! Most of the aircraft was converted into shredded aluminum. So yeah, someone walking onto the sight 3 days later after the scene has changed considerably, having a quick look around and not seeing any obvious signs of a plane is not exactly a revelation.
 
Re: Physical Inventory of Flight 77?

Mark F said:
Argument from incredulity aside, no I did not. I posted a link to a photograph. If the source offends you for some irrational reason I can provide a link to the same photograph from a different source. It changes nothing. The pic is the pic and tells its story no matter what web site hosts it.



All the links work just fine. If there is a problem, it is with you. Common sense alone says I am right. Even for those who lack common sense, a hi-res image of an FBI agent stepping over a fire hose while carrying a large piece of debris makes the point. I can't teach you common sense and I have zero interest in following you down another of your endless Rabbit holes which are designed only to derail the discussion and prevent progress.

I will close by adding in another obvious and self-evident common-sense fact: The Pentagon attack was by its nature not a typical plane crash. There was very little in the way of large, readily recognizable pieces of aircraft debris that a casual observer would recognize as aircraft debris. No significant, readily recognizable sections of wing, tailplane or fuselage survived the initial impact that the casual observer could point to and say "plane"! Most of the aircraft was converted into shredded aluminum. So yeah, someone walking onto the sight 3 days later after the scene has changed considerably, having a quick look around and not seeing any obvious signs of a plane is not exactly a revelation.
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"I have zero interest in following you down another of your endless Rabbit holes which are designed only to derail the discussion and prevent progress."

That is very revealing considering my request was for you to back up the claim that:

"The FBI and NTSB had been removing aircraft wreckage for 3 days before your buddy showed up"

You have yet to post anything supporting that claim.

Then you say:

"There was very little in the way of large, readily recognizable pieces of aircraft debris that a casual observer would recognize as aircraft debris."

I didnt ask for a casual observer's observation.

I asked for a physical inventory of flight 77. Period. Since it is obvious you have never though to ask for this evidence yourself you want to blame people who make the incredible request of actual physical evidence and since there were two large engines and ten landing wheels that had to hold up almost 300,000 pounds of weight common sense shows it should not be difficult to show these parts recovered.

It is safe to say you will not retract or support your claim and your response will prove this correct.
 
Re: Physical Inventory of Flight 77?

mike2810 said:
No you dodge questions asked of you and expect posters to answer yours. The CT posters have had 14+ years to examine what you call the OCT. Let us look in detail what you accept.
Here is the challenge. Start a new thread. State what you believe happened at the Pentagon with citations. The govt reports can be used for info, but not address their conclusions. Then we can discuss.
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I started this thread asking for a physical inventory of flight 77 and so far you nor anyone else has been able to provide the very basic information and in an attempt to distract you go on a rant about 9/11 as a whole.

Thank you.
 
Re: Physical Inventory of Flight 77?

zyzygy said:
Federal Aviation Administration
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What was the point of a completely useless link? The FAA was not responsible for the physical inventory of flight 77 and it is very very revealing how many who defend the OCT are completely ignorant of which organization was responsible.
 
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Brischera said:
What was the point of a completely useless link? The FAA was not responsible for the physical inventory of flight 77 and it is very very revealing how many who defend the OCT are completely ignorant of which organization was responsible.
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Then who is?

Oh the NTSB.

Haven't you heard of that acronym?
 
Re: Physical Inventory of Flight 77?

Brischera said:
Neither organization is in charge for a crime scene and once again you fail to answer the OP. But thank you for proving you do not even know how the NTSB operates because you repeatedly told me to ask the wrong organization.
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Then ask the FBI for information pertaining to the crime scene....


As to the aircraft components, ask the FAA and/or NTSB.
 
Re: Physical Inventory of Flight 77?

Fledermaus said:
Once again Brischera cannot accept a logical answer.
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A logical answer would be the physical inventory list from 77. You have not even attempted to answer the op but simply tried to dodge.
 
Re: Physical Inventory of Flight 77?

Fledermaus said:
Then who is?

Oh the NTSB.

Haven't you heard of that acronym?
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Do you ever get tired of having your posts constantly proven wrong? This is from the NTSB website:

"In cases of suspected criminal activity, other agencies may participate in the investigation. The Safety Board does not investigate criminal activity; in the past, once it has been established that a transportation tragedy is, in fact, a criminal act, the FBI becomes the lead federal investigative body, with the NTSB providing any requested support."
The Investigative Process

So after all these years you still do not know it was the FBI and not the NTSB charged with the physical inventory.

We fully expect a song and dance to avoid admitting your errors.
 
Re: Physical Inventory of Flight 77?

Brischera said:
A logical answer would be the physical inventory list from 77. You have not even attempted to answer the op but simply tried to dodge.
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Intentional ignorance noted.

Your question in its various forms has been answered time and again.

If you lack the ability to request info from the NTSB get assistance.

My last post until you cowboy up and prove you really care about the inventory and contact the appropriate agency.
 
Re: Physical Inventory of Flight 77?

Fledermaus said:
Then ask the FBI for information pertaining to the crime scene....


As to the aircraft components, ask the FAA and/or NTSB.
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LOL.....I just posted the link from the NTSB stating the FBI was responsible and not the NTSB.
 
Re: Physical Inventory of Flight 77?

Brischera said:
Do you ever get tired of having your posts constantly proven wrong? This is from the NTSB website:

"In cases of suspected criminal activity, other agencies may participate in the investigation. The Safety Board does not investigate criminal activity; in the past, once it has been established that a transportation tragedy is, in fact, a criminal act, the FBI becomes the lead federal investigative body, with the NTSB providing any requested support."
The Investigative Process

So after all these years you still do not know it was the FBI and not the NTSB charged with the physical inventory.

We fully expect a song and dance to avoid admitting your errors.
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In cases of suspected criminal activity, other agencies may participate in the investigation. The Safety Board does not investigate criminal activity; in the past, once it has been established that a transportation tragedy is, in fact, a criminal act, the FBI becomes the lead federal investigative body, with the NTSB providing any requested support.

Like inventorying aircraft components.....
 
Re: Physical Inventory of Flight 77?

Fledermaus said:
In cases of suspected criminal activity, other agencies may participate in the investigation. The Safety Board does not investigate criminal activity; in the past, once it has been established that a transportation tragedy is, in fact, a criminal act, the FBI becomes the lead federal investigative body, with the NTSB providing any requested support.

Like inventorying aircraft components.....
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You really are beyond all hope of displaying any honesty because what you highlighted in red with your insane stupid act of font dances proves once again you are just a dishonest sad person and there is nobody on this forum that can honestly discuss 9/11. It proved the FBI is in charge of the investigation which means they may or many not use the NTSB and the NTSB would not be the authority on maintaining the physical inventory. You run socks, flat out lie then hit the whiner button like you are going to hit right now.

To the Mod having to deal with it. Save yourself some time. Im not wasting any more time on this pathetic joke of a site.
 
Re: Physical Inventory of Flight 77?

Brischera said:
ROTFL!! The desperation is reaching new levels of hysteria because when you cannot be honest and admit you have no idea why you have no access to an inventory of 77 you are screaming you believe the OCT based on nothing but fear.
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If you say so,scooter.....:roll:
 
Re: Physical Inventory of Flight 77?

Fledermaus said:
Once again Brischera cannot accept a logical answer.
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Notice how he deliberately attempts to change the context and move the goalposts from discussing Henry's friend (which I was directly addressing) to his OP (which I was not).

I'm done wasting my time arguing the bleeding obvious. Can't reason a person out of a position they didn't reason themselves into, particularly when their only goal is to be contrary. I'm going back to our original agreement. :wink2:
 
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