9/11: The North Tower & The "Pile-Driver" That Wasn't[W:284]

BmanMcfly said:

The false claims you made.

Support or retract what?

What am I evading?

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Captain Adverse said:

My problem with this argument is that there are at least two points debunkers keep ignoring.

While it is true (as can be seen from the portions of the video showing construction) that there is a dense inner core surrounded by a square of open spaced floors, so that the floors can collapse fairly rapidly:

1. The inner core would NOT collapse simultaneously with the lighter surrounding floor spaces, and

2. as the floors collapse they disintegrate cuseing less and less pressure on the lower sections, which are tiered at three levels in increased strength from bottom to top.

As a result, as pointed out in the video, there should have been a spire of inner core structure still standing naked above the collapsing floors spaces AND below that a significant portion of the lower tier and second tier left standing as the upper tier disintegrated.

Instead what did we see? A complete collapse ALL THE WAY DOWN to a few feet above street level.

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Fledermaus said:

What false claim did I make?

Further non-answers will be considered trolling.

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Fledermaus said:

What "dense inner core" do you mean?

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BmanMcfly said:

Don't worry, I already considered your fake outrage at having your false claims being pointed out as such trolling.

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BmanMcfly said:

The core of the towers.

You might not be familiar, but the wtc towers were built with an outer wall that enveloped an inner core structure.

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Fledermaus said:

TRANSLATION: Lacks the honesty to admit there were no false claims on my behalf....

BmanMcfly being BmanMcfly.....

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Fledermaus said:

AKA Tube in Tube. Very familiar.

I asked him about what "dense inner core" HE is taking about....

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BmanMcfly said:

So, if you knew already, why did you ask?

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BmanMcfly said:

They are false, I explained why.

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Fledermaus said:

What "dense inner core" do you mean?

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Fledermaus said:

The "dense" part since that isn't accurate.

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Captain Adverse said:

Simply review the video from 0.02 - 0.40.

In the WTC the inner section shares the load with the outer tube section. So even if the planes cut into the inner section and weakened the outer section along one or two faces, the inner and outer structure several levels below would act as a cantilever. The top of the building should have collapsed sideways at an angle outward from the cut, NOT straight down.

Since it did fall straight down, supposedly because the struts "overheated" from the fire and simply lost the ability to hold the floors up, how do the inner core tube structures collapse all the way down so fast too? Much less the outer tube which is stronger at the base than at the top?

Doesn't make sense. I'd might believe some strange chance could do it to ONE building, but not all three. That dog don't hunt.

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Captain Adverse said:

Simply review the video from 0.02 - 0.40.

In the WTC the inner section shares the load with the outer tube section. So even if the planes cut into the inner section and weakened the outer section along one or two faces, the inner and outer structure several levels below would act as a cantilever. The top of the building should have collapsed sideways at an angle outward from the cut, NOT straight down.

Since it did fall straight down, supposedly because the struts "overheated" from the fire and simply lost the ability to hold the floors up, how do the inner core tube structures collapse all the way down so fast too? Much less the outer tube which is stronger at the base than at the top?

Doesn't make sense. I'd might believe some strange chance could do it to ONE building, but not all three. That dog don't hunt.

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Fledermaus said:

The building would fall sideways?

Why?

The steel weakened in the floors where the fires were raging.

Once the collapse was initiated the connectors on between the floors and walls failed.

And why "too fast"? How fast should it have been?

BTW in regards the "dense inner core"

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Can you point them out?

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BmanMcfly said:

That would be the part where the sunlight does not go through.

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Fledermaus said:

Ah, the elevator shafts....

Got it.

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BmanMcfly said:

Elevator shafts, AND?

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Fledermaus said:

And what?

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BmanMcfly said:

The correct answer was the core of the building.

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Fledermaus said:

Ah, so the "cores" of the towers are asymmetrical?

And they just coincidentally follow the elevator paths?

OK, it;s your story tell it any way you want.... :lamo

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BmanMcfly said:

Lmao... So, in all theses years you've not once looked at the floor plans for the towers?

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Fledermaus said:

No, really...

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BmanMcfly said:

Thanks for another admission, I was wondering how you could seem to not know what you are talking about.

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Fledermaus said:

Really YOU WIN.....

The "cores" are asymmetrical and follow the paths of the elevators...

I got it.

Can I quote you on that?

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