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Port at Tianjin, China nuked ?

LOL - Jim Fetzer is quite a character. :)

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thus causing a pixel to overload and appear white
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Nuh-uh. Ordinary DU does that too. It's not proof of any "tactical nuclear device".

But be that as it may, if it was a nuking, what was the reason for the nuking? What was there, in Tianjin?
 
ballantine said:
LOL - Jim Fetzer is quite a character. :)

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Nuh-uh. Ordinary DU does that too. It's not proof of any "tactical nuclear device".

But be that as it may, if it was a nuking, what was the reason for the nuking? What was there, in Tianjin?
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Could be a response to China's financial underhandedness or hacking. But I seriously doubt Obama would have the balls.
 
Yup....China was Nuked, Aliens impregnated my dog, Unicorn farts cause Earthquakes, Elephants speak Swahili, and there is a hidden military base in the dark side of the moon. Think I'll go feed my Red Dragon before it starts chewing up my shroud of Turin.
 
Thanks Dibbler--I had not been to VT for a few days. Even when it first happened I wondered if it had been nuke.

It would be interesting to know who did it and the method of delivery. Cruise missile? I guess it's no surprise that China is covering it up.
 
Henry David said:
Thanks Dibbler--I had not been to VT for a few days. Even when it first happened I wondered if it had been nuke.

It would be interesting to know who did it and the method of delivery. Cruise missile? I guess it's no surprise that China is covering it up.
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Except there was no nuke.

No seismic signature. No EMP to speak of (cell phones recorded the event). And a serious lack of fallout.
 
Fledermaus said:
Except there was no nuke.

No seismic signature. No EMP to speak of (cell phones recorded the event). And a serious lack of fallout.
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Do you really think that I see you as any sort of authority Maus? On anything?

The article from VT offers far more than your simple-minded "there was no nuke". He offers experience and scientific analysis.

You offer quite the opposite.

The interesting questions raised are "why" and "who", and of course the means of delivery.

As with comparisons to 911, the unique damage to the vehicles, well explained by Smith, make it very clear that this event was not caused by chemical explosions and fires (office fires and gravity). So many similarities between the 2 events.
 
Fledermaus said:
Except there was no nuke.

No seismic signature. No EMP to speak of (cell phones recorded the event). And a serious lack of fallout.
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It was one of the magic 911 nukes.
 
Henry David said:
Do you really think that I see you as any sort of authority Maus? On anything?

The article from VT offers far more than your simple-minded "there was no nuke". He offers experience and scientific analysis.

You offer quite the opposite.

The interesting questions raised are "why" and "who", and of course the means of delivery.

As with comparisons to 911, the unique damage to the vehicles, well explained by Smith, make it very clear that this event was not caused by chemical explosions and fires (office fires and gravity). So many similarities between the 2 events.
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You don't need an authority on nukes. You need an understanding of nukes and what they can and cannot do.

You definitely don't have that.

The so called comparison with 911 falls flat since there was no nuke there either.
 
zyzygy said:
A CT nuke for every CT occasion.
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It appears that way...

But wait, there's more....

This one was dual acting...,..

An airburst which crushed engine hoods and a groundburst so the effects wouid be concealed.....


And no, that doesn't make sense, its a.truther thing.
 
Fledermaus said:
It appears that way...

But wait, there's more....

This one was dual acting...,..

An airburst which crushed engine hoods and a groundburst so the effects wouid be concealed.....


And no, that doesn't make sense, its a.truther thing.
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Two nukes? That is the next step in this CT.
 
Suitcase nuke. Oh wait, those are fantasy.

Probably a man who could channel, using saidin. The tainted male half of the One Power. I would guess balefire. :roll:
 
zyzygy said:
Two nukes? That is the next step in this CT.
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I bet there were more than 2. As with other weapons systems, likely this was a test of some sort, testing new weapons. As if they need them in the first place...
 
So we have reports of a fire, followed by a series of explosions (not just one explosion) at a storage and handling facility for hazardous chemicals and materials including compressed air and explosive and flammable products and toxic agents. These chemicals include things like Potassium Nitrate and Sodium Nitrate - both major components of gunpowder.

We know the company was operating illegally. For example, they were grossly over the legal limit for the amount of Sodium Cyanide they were allowed to store - 70 times over the limit. also, the company did not follow regulations for handling materials a safe distance from populated areas and it operated without a valid license from October 2014 to June 2015.

Naturally if you are a conspiracy theorist you add these facts together and determine the most like cause must have been a nuclear device, planted by unknown persons for no reason whatsoever to achieve nothing.
 
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Fledermaus said:
Not quite the same.

911 nukes were the no-blast, no-emp, no fallout type.

This one was a fireball, no-emp, no fallout type.
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In other words...neither were any type of nuclear device currently known to mankind?

Perhaps Extraterrestrial weaponry was used to eliminate agents from Seti Beta 7? Those are some nasty little buggers and the use of Terra Doma Nukes would likely have been required.
 
I have to side with the IAT's (industrial accident theorists) on this one.
 
Heck, it should be obvious it was not a nuke.

The first explosion was on the level of 3 tons of TNT.

The second at 21 tons of TNT.

The smallest "nuke" ever tested was the W54 warhead of the Davy Crockett recoilless rocket, at 20 tons. Attempts to built even smaller weapons resulted in "fizzles", or failed tests, in the range of 9 tons.
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So how anybody built a 3 ton nuke is beyond me. And the damage from a 20 ton nuke would have been much larger then that of this explosion.

 
And lets not forget this all started with a fire.
 
Fledermaus said:
You really have no clue how nukes work, do you?
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Here is what I'm curious about Maus--why you care so much about whether or not a nuke was involved at Tianjin?

I can understand why the issue frightens you so regarding WTC and the official story, but why Tianjin?

In the first place there is no allegation that the US did it. Strictly speaking, nobody is even claiming it was a conspiracy, though it is not likely or practical for just one person all by himself to place the device(s). We can assume that several people conspired to do it, but it has not been proved, though I did read in NYT or somewhere that China has arrested a bunch of people for it ( a chemical fire).

The VT article presents considerable science and a rational explanation for the damage observed.

You present nothing, as usual, except condemnation and derision.

Why the big concern on your part? Personally, I don't care whether it was nuclear or not. I've never been to China and don't want to go. But VT makes a far better case for it than you make against it. ;)
 
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