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9-11: Who did it?[W:1493]

GunFora

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There are probably hundreds of threads on this. Let me start by saying that I am not a conspiracy theorist at all and never have been. However, there are many questions that have been left unanswered.

1. Flight 93 allegedly crashed in Shanksville, PA.
Q. Why were there no bodies or luggage at the "crash site"?
Q. Why was there no plane wreckage at the "crash site"?

2. An alleged plane hits the Pentagon.
Q. Why was there a near perfectly round hole in the outer wall with no wing sections or tail section on the ground?
 
It was Alex Jones.
 
GunFora said:
There are probably hundreds of threads on this. Let me start by saying that I am not a conspiracy theorist at all and never have been. However, there are many questions that have been left unanswered.

1. Flight 93 allegedly crashed in Shanksville, PA.
Q. Why were there no bodies or luggage at the "crash site"?
Q. Why was there no plane wreckage at the "crash site"?

2. An alleged plane hits the Pentagon.
Q. Why was there a near perfectly round hole in the outer wall with no wing sections or tail section on the ground?
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Many plane crash sites have the appearance of no wreckage. All this has been explained a while back.
9-11 Review: ERROR: 'The Pentagon Attack Left No Aircraft Debris'
 
Crovax said:
what about the joos?

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Well, that's the whole thing. You see, Alex Jones pulled off 911 using his secret army of monkey robots, and then created all these websites to convince people it was somebody else, all the while being the most Uber-Joo of all the Elders.

Fiendishly clever, that!
 
GunFora said:
Yes. There were no bodies. None. At least not in the photos or video I saw.
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I have just looked at lots of pics of plane crash sites. No bodies were visible in any of them. Can you guess why? As for wreckage are you suggesting that the government faked plane crashes and then forgot to scatter the wreckage? Even the Three Stooges wouldn't forget that part.
 
zyzygy said:
I have just looked at lots of pics of plane crash sites. No bodies were visible in any of them. Can you guess why? As for wreckage are you suggesting that the government faked plane crashes and then forgot to scatter the wreckage? Even the Three Stooges wouldn't forget that part.
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No. I'm not suggesting anything. I would like some real answers. For example....where the planes hit the towers there were "cookie cutter" plane shapes in the buildings. With the Pentagon there was no shape like that whatsoever. How many plane crashes have you seen where there is no immediate sign of wreckage? I've never seen one.
 
GunFora said:
No. I'm not suggesting anything. I would like some real answers. For example....where the planes hit the towers there were "cookie cutter" plane shapes in the buildings. With the Pentagon there was no shape like that whatsoever. How many plane crashes have you seen where there is no immediate sign of wreckage? I've never seen one.
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Who says that there was no wreckage?
 
GunFora said:
Not visible in any pics I've seen.
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What were you expecting to see?

High impact crashes may not leave much of recognizable aircraft parts or body parts.

As far as the two towers wouldn't you expect added destruction to the aircraft and human bodies from the building collapse and debris?
 
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zyzygy said:
Huge chunks of metal I expect. Not all plane crashes produce large chunks of metal.
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Exactly.
Low impact crashes might produce larger pieces of the aircraft.
High impact crashes not so much.

Nothing can compare to the crashes into the two towers.

There were not a whole lot of large aircraft parts in the Alps crash. Even comparing it to the Shanksville crash, the impact angles were not the same nor the speeds. Yet, very little debris that was recognized in the Alps.
 
GunFora said:
There are probably hundreds of threads on this. Let me start by saying that I am not a conspiracy theorist at all and never have been. However, there are many questions that have been left unanswered.

1. Flight 93 allegedly crashed in Shanksville, PA.
Q. Why were there no bodies or luggage at the "crash site"?
Q. Why was there no plane wreckage at the "crash site"?

2. An alleged plane hits the Pentagon.
Q. Why was there a near perfectly round hole in the outer wall with no wing sections or tail section on the ground?
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1. Flight 93 allegedly crashed in Shanksville, PA.

No allegedly about it.

Q. Why were there no bodies or luggage at the "crash site"?

There were. Very small pieces. Consistent with a high speed crash

Q. Why was there no plane wreckage at the "crash site"?

There were. Very small pieces. Consistent with a high speed crash.

2. An alleged plane hits the Pentagon.

No alleged about it. Not only that, the evidence shows it was Flight 77.

Q. Why was there a near perfectly round hole in the outer wall with no wing sections or tail section on the ground?

There was no "near perfectly round hole in the outer wall". And the wing sections or tail section went with the rest of Flight 77.... Into the building.
 
GunFora said:
I would like some real answers.
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If you're looking for real answers, all you've gotten so far (as you can read) are the same answers you can get from the US government and ridicule for having the audacity to ask for real answers. And as you already know (based on your posts), those are not real answers. Just a lot of propaganda and a bunch of posters who only know how to parrot all that propaganda. So don't expect any real answers here. The majority are just like you, people who demand real answers and the phonies will ridicule you for even asking. They'll tell you everything has already been answered and there's no need to question anything about 9/11. They will summarily dismiss the FACT that there are about 10,000 documents/pieces of data about 9/11 that the US government has classified under false pretenses (i.e. the usual "national security" excuse). They will claim that whatever we've been fed from a pathological lying US government is the truth about 9/11 and there's nothing that can ever change their story even though not one of these fakes knows one iota of anything that the US government is hiding from us.

You're absolutely right, there's not one thing the US government has fed us about 9/11 that has any credible basis and all of it must be questioned. Worse, most of what they have fed us makes absolutely no sense. You don't need to be a conspiracy theorist (although there's nothing wrong with that, it's just a weaponized term used to shut you up) to know we've been lied to about 9/11. The evidence is overwhelming.

Senator Bob Graham (Chairman of the 9/11 Joint Congressional Inquiry) is not likely ever going to be characterized as a conspiracy theorist and he claims there is a US government coverup of 9/11. This is one guy in a position to know.
 
Bob0627 said:
If you're looking for real answers, all you've gotten so far (as you can read) are the same answers you can get from the US government and ridicule for having the audacity to ask for real answers. And as you already know (based on your posts), those are not real answers. Just a lot of propaganda and a bunch of posters who only know how to parrot all that propaganda. So don't expect any real answers here. The majority are just like you, people who demand real answers and the phonies will ridicule you for even asking. They'll tell you everything has already been answered and there's no need to question anything about 9/11. They will summarily dismiss the FACT that there are about 10,000 documents/pieces of data about 9/11 that the US government has classified under false pretenses (i.e. the usual "national security" excuse). They will claim that whatever we've been fed from a pathological lying US government is the truth about 9/11 and there's nothing that can ever change their story even though not one of these fakes knows one iota of anything that the US government is hiding from us.

You're absolutely right, there's not one thing the US government has fed us about 9/11 that has any credible basis and all of it must be questioned. Worse, most of what they have fed us makes absolutely no sense. You don't need to be a conspiracy theorist (although there's nothing wrong with that, it's just a weaponized term used to shut you up) to know we've been lied to about 9/11. The evidence is overwhelming.

Senator Bob Graham (Chairman of the 9/11 Joint Congressional Inquiry) is not likely ever going to be characterized as a conspiracy theorist and he claims there is a US government coverup of 9/11. This is one guy in a position to know.
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And yet Flight 93 hit Shanksville and Flight 77 hit the Pentagon.....
 
GunFora said:
I would like some real answers.
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See what I mean? It took exactly one minute (see the very next post) for one of these posters to validate exactly I posted.
 
Bob0627 said:
See what I mean? It took exactly one minute (see the very next post) for one of these posters to validate exactly I posted.
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Poor Bob...

The entire gummint, MSM, not so MSM, families, friends, the NYPD, the FAA, etc. "in on it" to coverup _____________________________________ (You have to fill in the blank since you rarely provide details in your rants).
 
Welcome to the discussion. Always good to have new blood.

GunFora said:
There are probably hundreds of threads on this. Let me start by saying that I am not a conspiracy theorist at all and never have been. However, there are many questions that have been left unanswered.

1. Flight 93 allegedly crashed in Shanksville, PA.
Q. Why were there no bodies or luggage at the "crash site"?
Q. Why was there no plane wreckage at the "crash site"?
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Simple. Both claims are not true.

2. An alleged plane hits the Pentagon.
Q. Why was there a near perfectly round hole in the outer wall with no wing sections or tail section on the ground?
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Simple, this claim is also not true. There was a fairly round exit hole in C-Ring at the A-E drive, created by a wave of high-velocity fragments, super-heated air and the nose landing gear:

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This is the entry hole (pre-collapse):

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Now that your many unanswered questions are answered lets stick a fork in this and move on, shall we?
 
GunFora said:
I would like some real answers.
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Mark F said:
Now that your many unanswered questions are answered lets stick a fork in this and move on, shall we?
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You see once again, another poster validates my claim. This one wants you to believe he magically answered your "many" questions ("Now that your many unanswered questions are answered") in a couple of sentences from one post and wants to shut you up ("lets stick a fork in this and move on, shall we?"). It's exactly what I said you're going to get.
 
Bob0627 said:
You see once again, another poster validates my claim. This one wants you to believe he magically answered your "many" questions ("Now that your many unanswered questions are answered") in a couple of sentences from one post and wants to shut you up ("lets stick a fork in this and move on, shall we?"). It's exactly what I said you're going to get.
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What question was left unanswered?
 
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