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Old 01-18-08, 09:00 AM   #111 (permalink)
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Re: The mastermind of 9/11

You democrats crack me up!!!
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Re: The mastermind of 9/11

Japanese law makers speaks of 911 that Americans dare not to say.

http://benjaminfulford.com/Transcrip...0of%20911.html

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Old 01-30-08, 04:57 PM   #113 (permalink)
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Ok so I am not about to go through pages and pages of junk but I want to know from all those who support the theory that 9-11 was an inside job who orchestrated it? I know you believe it was the U.S. government but who (naming names) is the mastermind behind the plan? Why do you belive it was this person who did it and what evidence do you have to lead this person to such a hideous act?
Our own FBI said we don't have hard evidence that Bin Laden was even connected to 9/11, yet before that they claimed that his complicity is "clear and irrefutable." Despite the videos that surfaced later on, there is no admissible evidence that can tie OBL & his organization to the attacks. Remember, "admissible" means worthy evidence.

In the early 1980's, our own CIA provided arms and funds to OBL & AQ to fight the Soviets.

Do you really think our government doesn't participate in secret wars behind the propaganda you are given by the mass media?

There's tons of great books you can read, but If I were you, I'd start with reading about CIA covert black operations. It'll get you a start on the vast amount of co-option/corruption within our own government in the last 70 years of our history. Your question opens up a wide scope of information...


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Unless it's definitively proven otherwise, I believe the independant and bi-partisan 9/11 Commission Report (released on July 22, 2004) to be a valid historical rendering of Black Tuesday.
The Commission was far from bi-partisan or independent. Sure there seems an equal balance of names with either ‘R’s’ or ‘D’s’ after their names. Look at their council memberships, business dealings, past and present working relationships…

Congress and the President picked the commission. Bush himself picked Philip Zelikow as executive director - a slap in the face to the ‘9/11 families’ who requested his resignation.

Zelikow and Condi Rice (CFR) worked very closely together under National Security Advisor Brent Scowcroft (CFR) in the first Bush Administration. Rice hired him in 1989, and they both left in 1991. After the White House, Condi and Zelikow wrote a book together

Zelikow worked on Bush’s team to smooth the Clinton handover in terms of intelligence and to help formulate national security policy. He would be directly involved with information regarding Al Qaeda.

He was the principal author of the NSS 2002, which was the seminal document for the Bush-Cheney foreign policy after 9/11.

From the executive director to the spokesman for the Commission – ALL of them have conflicts of interest.

Thomas Kean – Chairman (R)

- Member of the CFR. (as are/were many of those required to testify)

- He has a history of investments that link him to Saudi Arabian investors who have financially supported both George W. Bush and Osama bin Laden in the past. His dealings have included Khalid Bin Mahfouz, and Mohammed Hussein al Amoudi, 2 of the alleged financiers of the 9/11 attacks.

I would think Kean should be under investigation, not the Chairman of the commission


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3˝ years have now passed since publication. To my knowledge, no Commission signatory member has expressed reservations or cast aspersions on the Commission Report.
Thomas Kean and Lee Hamilton, (Chair, and Vice Chair of the commission) dedicated the first chapter of their book Without Precedent: The Inside Story of the 9/11 Commission to express reservations about the Commission Report. They cited these problems:
  • the late start of the Commission
  • the very short deadline imposed
  • insufficient funds ($3 million. The Challenger disaster received $50 million)
  • the many politicians who did not want the Commission formed
  • the continuing resistance by many politicians wishing to duck blame.
  • the denial of access by various agencies to documents and witnesses.
They write that the 9/11 Commission was so frustrated with repeated misstatements by officials from the Pentagon and the FAA during the investigation that it considered a separate investigation into possible obstruction of justice by Pentagon and FAA officials

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Cooperative Research: Complete 9/11 Timeline

David Ray Griffin's book... Ommissions and Distortions

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Remember, "admissible" means worthy evidence.
Most frequently it means you obtained a warrant to obtain the information.

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In the early 1980's, our own CIA provided arms and funds to OBL & AQ to fight the Soviets.
Al Qaeda didnt exist at that time and most of our support went to the same people who became the Nortern Alliance. Bin Laden has stated he saw no evidence of American support.
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Al Qaeda didnt exist at that time and most of our support went to the same people who became the Nortern Alliance. Bin Laden has stated he saw no evidence of American support.
Do you know where I could find this quote? I'm not seeing it via the usual methods...

I heard something rather different, but I think it was just on a dateline report or something before 9/11 so I don't know how valid it is. I'm just curious to know about this.
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Do you know where I could find this quote? I'm not seeing it via the usual methods...

I heard something rather different, but I think it was just on a dateline report or something before 9/11 so I don't know how valid it is. I'm just curious to know about this.
Oh is there really any point? Im sure Bin Laden, the CIA and Fisk are all in on the conspiracy in your imagined world. Of course Bin Laden would run cover for his co conspirators.


Usama bin Ladin with Robert Fisk in Sudan 1996

." But what of the Arab mujahedin he took to Afghanistan - members of a guerilla army who were also encouraged and armed by the United States - and who were forgotten when that war was over?

"Personally neither I nor my brothers saw evidence of American help. When my mujahedin were victorious and the Russsians were driven out, differences started (between the guerilla movements) so I returned to road construction in Taif and Abha.
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Oh is there really any point? Im sure Bin Laden, the CIA and Fisk are all in on the conspiracy in your imagined world. Of course Bin Laden would run cover for his co conspirators.
Sure there's a point--in this case, should it turn out that OBL really had no connection with the CIA prior to 911, that presents a serious problem for my case, and would cause me to re-examine the whole issue.

Some recent material I received to do with an ongoing conflict between the Clinton and Bush administration and the CIA is causing me to do that anyway.

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Usama bin Ladin with Robert Fisk in Sudan 1996

." But what of the Arab mujahedin he took to Afghanistan - members of a guerilla army who were also encouraged and armed by the United States - and who were forgotten when that war was over?

"Personally neither I nor my brothers saw evidence of American help. When my mujahedin were victorious and the Russsians were driven out, differences started (between the guerilla movements) so I returned to road construction in Taif and Abha.
Thanks! Fisk is a decent journalist and I knew he had interviewed OBL at one point; I should have googled him.
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Fisk is a sleazy muckraker, but I believe the Bin laden interview is on tape and will presume Bin Ladens words are accurately recorded.
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To all 9/11 conspiraters. please go to this link by popular mechanics.
They took 16 of the most common theories and disproved them all.

Debunking the 9/11 Myths: Special Report - Popular Mechanics
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