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Debunker educational services presents "Plane v Pole"[W:576]

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this is a place (not the kausel thread) for debunkers to post their claims about how planes interact with poles and the damage incurred.

Koko posted a gif that a debunker claims is misrepresenting the observed results.

Koko claims and maintains the outboard wing was cut off. (as seen in the clip)

The debunker claims the basic wing structure was intact.


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koko disagrees since we can see the outboard section of the wing getting sliced off which is part of the basic structure. (it didnt simply lose a panel) lol
 
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KokomoJojo said:
this is a place for debunkers to post their claims about how planes interact with poles and the damage incurred.

Koko posted a gif that a debunker claims is misrepresenting the observed results.

Koko claims and maintains the outboard wing was cut off. (as seen in the clip)

The debunker claims the basic wing structure was intact.


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koko disagrees since we can see it getting sliced off.
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No, the OUTBOARD WING is not cut off...

That too is a classic Koko misrepresentation.

The FULL VIDEO with commentary:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CZxvu85VM4

Very clear and concise.....

6:45 = "The basic wing structure remains intact"

How could The basic wing structure remain intact if the wing is gone?

What percentage was lost? Not a wing. Not half a wing. Not even a quarter of the wing. Not even "the outboard wing".

What percentage of the wing is gone?
 
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Fledermaus said:
No, the OUTBOARD WING is not cut off...

That too is a classic Koko misrepresentation.

The FULL VIDEO with commentary:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CZxvu85VM4

Very clear and concise.....

6:45 = "The basic wing structure remains intact"

How could The basic wing structure remain intact if the wing is gone?

What percentage was lost? Not a wing. Not half a wing. Not even a quarter of the wing. Not even "the outboard wing".

What percentage of the wing is gone?
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koko never said "the whole wing" was cut off. you made that **** up.

http://www.debatepolitics.com/consp...s-own-footprint-rnd-2-a-9.html#post1064411302


selective hearing too?

He said the outboard wing was cut off.
 
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KokomoJojo said:
koko never said "the whole wing" was cut off. you made that **** up.

http://www.debatepolitics.com/consp...s-own-footprint-rnd-2-a-9.html#post1064411302

selective hearing too?

He said the outboard wing was cut off.
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Koko claims and maintains the outboard wing was cut off.

Koko WRONG again....

Appox 6:45.... "The 12" telephone pole cuts off the outer PANEL....."

ETA _ Anothr Koko CLAIM: the wing was CUT OFF, so the basic wing structure with regard to the 'WHOLE WING' did not stay intact DUH!!
 
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KokomoJojo said:
koko never said "the whole wing" was cut off. you made that **** up.

http://www.debatepolitics.com/consp...s-own-footprint-rnd-2-a-9.html#post1064411302


selective hearing too?

He said the outboard wing was cut off.
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Oh, don't think I noticed the edit Koko.....

What percentage was lost? Not a wing. Not half a wing. Not even a quarter of the wing. Not even "the outboard wing".

What percentage of the wing is gone?
 
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Fledermaus said:
Koko claims and maintains the outboard wing was cut off.

Koko WRONG again....

Appox 6:45.... "The 12" telephone pole cuts off the outer PANEL....."
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Fledermaus said:
Oh, don't think I noticed the edit Koko.....

What percentage was lost? Not a wing. Not half a wing. Not even a quarter of the wing. Not even "the outboard wing".

What percentage of the wing is gone?
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percentage is irrelevant
 
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Typical Koko being vague. "Koko claims and maintains the outboard wing was cut off."

Do you mean part of the wing tip?
The wing was cut off at the fuselage?

Seems to me the wing did not break off , If you want to say part of the wing near the tip did. then yep., but not the whole wing itself.

Bet you have not been involved in any aviation accident investigation nor are you an aviation engineer.:mrgreen:

The OP is a fail.
 
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KokomoJojo said:
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moving the goal post. Where was that image in your OP?

Same stupid posts when you fail to show the original source with the whole vid.

Cherry pick much.:mrgreen:
 
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KokomoJojo said:
sliced3.jpg
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And?

You have a point?

At that point the aircraft had suffered two serious ground impacts....

Two serious ground impacts that resulted in the wings detaching....

Koko claims and maintains the outboard wing was cut off. = Utter fail
 
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KokomoJojo said:
percentage is irrelevant
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Nonsense....

the wing was CUT OFF, so the basic wing structure with regard to the 'WHOLE WING' did not stay intact DUH!! = FAIL

Koko claims and maintains the outboard wing was cut off. = Fail
 
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Fledermaus said:
And?

You have a point?

At that point the aircraft had suffered two serious ground impacts....

Two serious ground impacts that resulted in the wings detaching....

Koko claims and maintains the outboard wing was cut off. = Utter fail
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a panel is attached to a plane by screws, not the whole outboard section

as usual this is nothing more than word games
 
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KokomoJojo said:
a panel is attached to a plane by screws, not the whole outboard section
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And?

You have a point?

At that point the aircraft had suffered two serious ground impacts....

Two serious ground impacts that resulted in the wings detaching....

Koko claims and maintains the outboard wing was cut off. = Utter fail
 
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Fledermaus said:
And?

You have a point?

At that point the aircraft had suffered two serious ground impacts....

Two serious ground impacts that resulted in the wings detaching....

Koko claims and maintains the outboard wing was cut off. = Utter fail
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Why are you bothering? Oozlefinch blew Koko's interpretation of this video out of the water recently, and Koko knows this.
 
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NWO_Spook said:
Why are you bothering? Oozlefinch blew Koko's interpretation of this video out of the water recently, and Koko knows this.
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more made up **** residing in the vivid imaginations of debunkers. carry on
 
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KokomoJojo said:
more made up **** residing in the vivid imaginations of debunkers. carry on
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No, and it is quite convenient you don't remember. Oozlefinch went through that old video and demonstrated why the pole was placed there and what it was intended to achieve, while relating how this cannot be compared to 9/11. It was fascinating stuff and well researched (as always with him). You can easily examine his posting record to find it, but I know you won't.
 
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Another completely irrelevant OP from Koko.

Once again I encourage others not to indulge his need for attention when Koko knows full well he is full of :censored
 
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Mark F said:
Once again I encourage others not to indulge his need for attention when Koko knows full well he is full of :censored
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I agree.
 
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Mark F said:
Another completely irrelevant OP from Koko.

Once again I encourage others not to indulge his need for attention when Koko knows full well he is full of :censored
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I am so sorry that debunkers are victims of a world of butthurt, again, I really am.

The first step to curing the problem is for them to stop posting lies and bull****.

See debunkers posted lies claiming that I was proven wrong about the outboard wing being 'sliced off', despite the fact I proved it with a video clip, (see OP), and when I corrected debunkers rather than dropping it debunkers made a big stink out of it and tried to derail my kausel thread, so I made this thread so debunkers have a place to argue this subject and prove the point, where people (not other debunkers of course) can see that the debunkers do not comprehend simple english. (and they suk at forensics too)

1) The outboard wing-tank is seen to be completely severed and sliced off from the plane. (as shown in the OP)

2) The outboard wing-tank went AIRBORNE while the inboard wing drops and hits the ground.




peace out man! (and better luck next time)
kokos forensics lessons, class adjourned.
 
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KokomoJojo said:
I am so sorry that debunkers are victims of a world of butthurt, again, I really am.

The first step to curing the problem is for them to stop posting lies and bull****.

See debunkers posted lies claiming that I was proven wrong about the outboard wing being 'sliced off', despite the fact I proved it with a video clip, (see OP), and when I corrected debunkers rather than dropping it debunkers made a big stink out of it and tried to derail my kausel thread, so I made this thread so debunkers have a place to argue this subject and prove the point, where people (not other debunkers of course) can see that the debunkers do not comprehend simple english. (and they suk at forensics too)

1) The outboard wing-tank is seen to be completely severed and sliced off from the plane. (as shown in the OP)

2) The outboard wing-tank went AIRBORNE while the inboard wing drops and hits the ground.




peace out man! (and better luck next time)
kokos forensics lessons, class adjourned.
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More goalpost moving....

More nonsense.....

More GIFs that do not how the whole story.

More insults.

In other words. Another intentionally dishonest post.

ETA - I looked up the fuel cells for a DC-7. Once again, Koko is WRONG when he states "1) The outboard wing-tank is seen to be completely severed and sliced off from the plane." The outboard wing-tank is at least 2X-3X the size of the section lost in the impact with the non-breakaway telephone pole.

Ergo Koko is ALSO WRONG when he stated "2) The outboard wing-tank went AIRBORNE while the inboard wing drops and hits the ground" Only a PORTION of the outboard wing tank.

www.dtic.mil/cgi-bin/GetTRDoc?AD=AD0624051

Pages 47 and 58 apply
 
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Fledermaus said:
Another intentionally dishonest post.
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why do you continiue when everyone can see the wing being cut off?

No amount of pretense can change the facts.

I like these little mini threads that prove beyond a shadow of a doubt subjects debunkers reject since it shows the world the fraud debunkers are perpetrating on them.

koko said outbard wing gets sliced off fled said debunkers proved koko was wrong. That is the OP, proving debunkers lied is the purpose of this debate.

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Unless you want to continue to pretend the outboard wing tank was not sliced off. Its your reputation on the chopping block!
 
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KokomoJojo said:
why do you continiue when everyone can see the wing being cut off?

No amount of pretense can change the facts.

I like these little mini threads that prove beyond a shadow of a doubt subjects debunkers reject since it shows the world the fraud debunkers are perpetrating on them.

koko said outbard wing gets sliced off fled said debunkers proved koko was wrong. That is the OP, proving debunkers lied is the purpose of this debate.

<Snipped KokoGIF>

Unless you want to continue to pretend the outboard wing tank was not sliced off. Its your reputation on the chopping block!
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Still wrong....

READ THE PDF,,,,
 
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