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MIT Prof Kausel-Structures Like WTC don't Collapse into its own Footprint Rnd2[W:242]

Re: MIT Prof Kausel - Structures Like WTC do not Collapse into its own Footprint Rnd

1- the clip is english with French voiceover

DERP... Thank you Captain Obvious.

2- you clearly didn't make it more than 5 seconds into the clip

Incorrect. I actually watched it a number of times trying to make out the English in the background.

3- you present audio/ video demand the audio, you get it from your own supplied link and still insist on shifting goal posts.

Repeated since you must have missed it.

I DON'T SPEAK FRENCH.

Pathetic.

Yes, it is pathetic how you make accusations.....

Can you speak French?

Would you be so kind as to translate?
 
Re: MIT Prof Kausel - Structures Like WTC do not Collapse into its own Footprint Rnd

1- the clip is english with French voiceover
2- you clearly didn't make it more than 5 seconds into the clip
3- you present audio/ video demand the audio, you get it from your own supplied link and still insist on shifting goal posts.

Pathetic.

I actually watched it BM,

Doesn't the voice over override the English?

Makes it hard to hear what the prof is saying.
 
Re: MIT Prof Kausel - Structures Like WTC do not Collapse into its own Footprint Rnd

I actually watched it BM,

Doesn't the voice over override the English?

Makes it hard to hear what the prof is saying.
No, you can hear both... regardless... Fled submitted the audio he's been whining about for so long.
 
Re: MIT Prof Kausel - Structures Like WTC do not Collapse into its own Footprint Rnd

I actually watched it BM,

Doesn't the voice over override the English?

Makes it hard to hear what the prof is saying.

Amazing...

If the Bman had watched more than a few minutes he might have figured that out.
 
Re: MIT Prof Kausel - Structures Like WTC do not Collapse into its own Footprint Rnd

No, you can hear both... regardless... Fled submitted the audio he's been whining about for so long.

WOW, good observation, I must have missed that.

I understood the english perfectly fine, and he premises exactly what I claimed.

You are right he even put it up then whines that I didnt. Same identical experiment. That is the only material thing the prof said for that demonstration, the french speaker is the narrator giving the narrators opinion which is not what the OP is about.

Good catch man, Its amazing how disingenuous and fraudulent the debunkings has become now days.
 
Re: MIT Prof Kausel - Structures Like WTC do not Collapse into its own Footprint Rnd

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Please include translations with any posts that are not in English.

Do you or Koko want to provide the English transcript.

If not, who is embarrassed?

Are you saying one of us should have reported fled for posting that link?
 
Re: MIT Prof Kausel - Structures Like WTC do not Collapse into its own Footprint Rnd

WOW, good observation, I must have missed that.

I understood the english perfectly fine, and he premises exactly what I claimed.

You are right he even put it up then whines that I didnt. Same identical experiment. That is the only material thing the prof said for that demonstration, the french speaker is the narrator giving the narrators opinion which is not what the OP is about.

Good catch man, Its amazing how disingenuous and fraudulent the debunkings has become now days.

Ya, the English is pretty clear. It's the same video.

There can be no real discussion with these fakes, I've been checking in and out for the past couple weeks, and the level of the manipulation has even stepped it up another notch.

it doesn't even matter what is said, the experiment shows.

If these were honest people, they would address that the model is a gross oversimplification.

Could point out that if the truss system let go of the columns the building would have slid down the columns until the topple effect was seen... and there would have been a delay as the loads shifted and balance was lost.

we give them too much credence by even acknowledging the asinine things they say... I've yet to see them address a point in an honest fashion, at least been months.
 
Re: MIT Prof Kausel - Structures Like WTC do not Collapse into its own Footprint Rnd

Ya, the English is pretty clear. It's the same video.

There can be no real discussion with these fakes, I've been checking in and out for the past couple weeks, and the level of the manipulation has even stepped it up another notch.

it doesn't even matter what is said, the experiment shows.

If these were honest people, they would address that the model is a gross oversimplification.

Could point out that if the truss system let go of the columns the building would have slid down the columns until the topple effect was seen... and there would have been a delay as the loads shifted and balance was lost.

we give them too much credence by even acknowledging the asinine things they say... I've yet to see them address a point in an honest fashion, at least been months.

Well then tell us.

What was said?
 
Re: MIT Prof Kausel - Structures Like WTC do not Collapse into its own Footprint Rnd

WOW, good observation, I must have missed that.

I understood the english perfectly fine, and he premises exactly what I claimed.

You are right he even put it up then whines that I didnt. Same identical experiment. That is the only material thing the prof said for that demonstration, the french speaker is the narrator giving the narrators opinion which is not what the OP is about.

Good catch man, Its amazing how disingenuous and fraudulent the debunkings has become now days.

Audio....

Since you are known to misrepresent videos
 
Re: MIT Prof Kausel - Structures Like WTC do not Collapse into its own Footprint Rnd

fled how many times are you going to continue to deny the GLARING obvious?

Its in the OP

this pretense is really getting old man.



MIT Prof Kausel - Structures Like WTC does not Collapse into its own Footprint

They simply tip over as we can see here:





Prof Kausel demonstrates buckling columns when spoorted along their length and unsupported along their length, and I am sure without realizing also proves that buckling columns tip over and do not fail straight down into the path of most resistance.

The debunkers claim that the columns were overloaded and buckled which as we can see causes the block to tip and it does not fall into the greatest path of resistance but instead, as expected, it tips and falls over as that is the path of least resistance.

Neither have debunkers shown how asymmetrical damage can cause symmetrical failure.

Other debunkers claim that the columns all somehow (by some unaccounted unknown force) became misaligned claiming that the joints are not strong enough to keep them aligned despite there was no known force to misalign so many columns but in all cases have not supported any of it with evidence.

So debunkers have contradictory theories both of which appear to be patently imagined on its face, however they deserve the benefit of a doubt and the opportunity to prove either or both theories.

That said Truthers would like to examine the 'evidence' debunkers have to support either or both of these claims and that would reasonably result in a tower falling into its own footprint.

Thats part 1.

Part 2 is if the floors collapsed they would simply break the connections all the way down that attached them to the columns both core and perimeter. The breaking connections if by overloading since they are cantilever mounted would tend to pull the perimeter inward, yet we see the perimeter columns being ejected several hundred feet when both the core and the columns are connected tubes and should have stayed connected and standing.


To the debunkers who would do anything and everything in their power to derail the points to be discussed in the OP, as they did in the previous thread with their red herring trash arguments even after being told its intended meaning, the following definitions apply to this thread, the terms:

"In its own footprint" is defined as "did not tip over" and are not subject of or to this debate

"Straight down" is defined as "did not tip over" and are not subject of or to this debate

Any attempts to derail this thread with frivolous red herrings as was done in the previous thread will be reported.

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Re: MIT Prof Kausel - Structures Like WTC do not Collapse into its own Footprint Rnd

Why? You ignored it all this time.

I dint see it, but since it has the audio you have been whining about and YOU POSTED IT I prefer using it as a prime example proving how fake debunking has become.
 
Re: MIT Prof Kausel - Structures Like WTC do not Collapse into its own Footprint Rnd

fled how many times are you going to continue to deny the GLARING obvious?

Its in the OP

this pretense is really getting old man.

Audio....

Since you are known to misrepresent videos
 
Re: MIT Prof Kausel - Structures Like WTC do not Collapse into its own Footprint Rnd

I dint see it, but since it has the audio you have been whining about and YOU POSTED IT I prefer using it as a prime example proving how fake debunking has become.

Audio....

Since you are known to misrepresent videos.

I don't do French.
 
Re: MIT Prof Kausel - Structures Like WTC do not Collapse into its own Footprint Rnd

Audio....

Since you are known to misrepresent videos.

I don't do French.


Thats a LIE, its a false claim that you post, which I could perceive as libel, and we went through this before here:

http://www.debatepolitics.com/consp...s-presents-plane-v-pole-2.html#post1064412350

where I proved you are posting LIES and your claim went down in the flames it deserved.

You have not posted anything what so ever showing I materially misrepresented ANY clip.
 
Re: MIT Prof Kausel - Structures Like WTC do not Collapse into its own Footprint Rnd

Thats a LIE, its a false claim that you post, which I could perceive as libel, and we went through this before here:

http://www.debatepolitics.com/consp...s-presents-plane-v-pole-2.html#post1064412350

where I proved you are posting LIES and your claim went down in the flames it deserved.

You have not posted anything what so ever showing I materially misrepresented ANY clip.

Audio please...

You were proven to misrepresent videos...
 
Re: MIT Prof Kausel - Structures Like WTC do not Collapse into its own Footprint Rnd

Audio please...

You were proven to misrepresent videos...

Thats a proven LIE and the quickest way to not get anything from me is to post lies.

the professor proves that columns topple when they fail, not crash straight down, and debunkers have nothing to prove otherwise.

BTW, enough of the spamming, if you continue I will be forced to report it.


Readers fully understand you want the audio that you already have.
 
Re: MIT Prof Kausel - Structures Like WTC do not Collapse into its own Footprint Rnd

Are you saying one of us should have reported fled for posting that link?

Is that the vid you captured part of and used?

As far as reporting, I would be more than happy to report some of your post for possible baiting, spam, etc.
 
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Re: MIT Prof Kausel - Structures Like WTC do not Collapse into its own Footprint Rnd

Is that the vid you captured part of and used?

did you watch and compare it?
 
Re: MIT Prof Kausel - Structures Like WTC do not Collapse into its own Footprint Rnd

did you watch and compare it?

spam 1 on your part.

Is it the same vid, yes or no?
 
Re: MIT Prof Kausel - Structures Like WTC do not Collapse into its own Footprint Rnd

spam 1 on your part.

Is it the same vid, yes or no?

Not spam, dont you know what spam is?

Since it has the same demonstration I have no reason to believe it is not.

translation:

Professor Eduardo Kausel
made a demonstration of cause
Falls of 2 Tours
WTC . 11/09/01 .

This documentary is often
used by detractors
of all kinds who support
the official version of the
commission of inquiry
in any form ...

Moreover, although could have said ,
they would have supported ....

Now the same sequence
but in slow motion ....

Observe the real
reaction of the model ....

Thank you Mr Kausel ,
for this demonstration .
Indeed , we can see :
a switch to outside.

The pillars bend and
detach , but no breaks.



The pink panther music is a nice touch. Seems the french dont believe the oct either.
 
Re: MIT Prof Kausel - Structures Like WTC do not Collapse into its own Footprint Rnd

well its your lucky day, I found the clip in english and it demonstrates precisely what I said it demonstrates in the OP LMAO.

Not that it matter to those who continue to lie about me.



I have to laugh that the narrator lies too, said 1/4 the weight and anyone who can count to 10 can see its closer to 1/2 the weight. LMAO

so there we have it exactly what I said, desperate debunkers reduced to posting lies.
 
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Re: MIT Prof Kausel - Structures Like WTC do not Collapse into its own Footprint Rnd

fled how many times are you going to continue to deny the GLARING obvious?

Its in the OP

this pretense is really getting old man.

Because if he accepts the obvious, there's no chance that he can continue with the inane denials... Asking for something that he supplied, and then is not happy with it, so he demands the same thing he already provided.

It'd be hilarious if it wasn't so sad.
 
Re: MIT Prof Kausel - Structures Like WTC do not Collapse into its own Footprint Rnd

well its your lucky day, I found the clip in english and it demonstrates precisely what I said it demonstrates in the OP LMAO.

Not that it matter to those who continue to lie about me.

lemme try that again

But they have the perfect circle of denial;

- misinterpret your words, so you put pictures / videos
- they refuse to watch the videos and ask for an explanation
- then they misinterpret the words.
 
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