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Hitler's Jewish Soldiers

zyzygy said:
Because it's bollocks.

"found the following cooks/chefs/diettian of Hitler from several sources:

1) Margarete Roloefs
2) Constanze Manziarly (* 14.4.20 † 2.5.45) - last cook at the "Führerbunker)
3) Helene Marie (Marlene) von Exner
4) Wilhelm Lange - Cook at the "Führerbunker"
5) Otto Günther "Krümel„ - Cook at the FHQ "Wolfsschanze"
6) Arthur 'Willy' Kannenberg (* 23.02.1896 † 26.01.1963) - "Leibkoch" (Main-cook) at Reichs-Chancellery

Can anybody confirm or complete the list?"

"Manziarly was a dietician-cook for Hitler's special diets. She was the successor to dietician-cook Frau von Exner, dismissed at the time of the Wolfsschanze reconstruction in 1944 when it was discovered that she was one-quarter Jewish. Martin Bormann was given order to "arianize" her family line and Frau von Exner survived the war."
Summary of Cooks of Adolf Hitler - Axis History Forum
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Holocaust Controversies: Hitler the Jewish Zionist (Part II)

"...The next Whooper is that Hitler employed a Jewish cook, a Fräulein Kunde, on loan to him from Romanian leader Antonescu during the war. Surprisingly, the exact same story, told in almost exactly the same words, appears in Gerald Fleming's book Hitler and the Final Solution. One of the only references to this woman I could find was in a 1939 article in American Imago, a psychoanalytic journal. A shared source between Fleming and Goldberg is The Psychoanalytic Interpretation of History (1971), edited by Benjamin B. Wolman, which is almost assuredly the source that both Fleming and Goldberg used -- unless Fleming, who published a decade after Goldberg, used Goldberg's book, which is extremely doubtful.

The problem is not only that, as with the O.S.S. report, the psychoanalytic views of Hitler have been shown to be unreliable, but the majority of Hitler scholars idenity Hitler's cook not as a "Fräulein Kunde" but as Marlene von Exner, who, according to Martin Gilbert, was not Jewish but, instead, had a Jewish great-grandparent. Upon disclosing this to Hitler, she was fired (Gilbert, The Second World War: A Complete History [2004], p. 504).

Another source to mention the cook as Exner and not Kunde is none other than Brigitte Hamann (p. 412), whose book is sitting right on Condit's desk as he reads from what appears to be a xerox of Goldberg's pages. Clearly Condit never read all of Hamann's book and was simply pointed to the "incriminating" portions by his shady "mentor," whom he calls only "Ratisbone."..."​
 
mbig said:
Holocaust Controversies: Hitler the Jewish Zionist (Part II)

"...The next Whooper is that Hitler employed a Jewish cook, a Fräulein Kunde, on loan to him from Romanian leader Antonescu during the war. Surprisingly, the exact same story, told in almost exactly the same words, appears in Gerald Fleming's book Hitler and the Final Solution. One of the only references to this woman I could find was in a 1939 article in American Imago, a psychoanalytic journal. A shared source between Fleming and Goldberg is The Psychoanalytic Interpretation of History (1971), edited by Benjamin B. Wolman, which is almost assuredly the source that both Fleming and Goldberg used -- unless Fleming, who published a decade after Goldberg, used Goldberg's book, which is extremely doubtful.

The problem is not only that, as with the O.S.S. report, the psychoanalytic views of Hitler have been shown to be unreliable, but the majority of Hitler scholars idenity Hitler's cook not as a "Fräulein Kunde" but as Marlene von Exner, who, according to Martin Gilbert, was not Jewish but, instead, had a Jewish great-grandparent. Upon disclosing this to Hitler, she was fired (Gilbert, The Second World War: A Complete History [2004], p. 504).

Another source to mention the cook as Exner and not Kunde is none other than Brigitte Hamann (p. 412), whose book is sitting right on Condit's desk as he reads from what appears to be a xerox of Goldberg's pages. Clearly Condit never read all of Hamann's book and was simply pointed to the "incriminating" portions by his shady "mentor," whom he calls only "Ratisbone."..."​
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It doesn't matter if his cook was Martian. Hitler still murdered millions of Jews.
 
Not a historical shocker. Blacks fought with the south. Some blacks were slave owners. Some southerners fought for the Union. Some northerners fought for the Confederacy. The world is never as cut and dried/black and white as some people want it to be.
 
VanceMack said:
Not a historical shocker. Blacks fought with the south. Some blacks were slave owners. Some southerners fought for the Union. Some northerners fought for the Confederacy. The world is never as cut and dried/black and white as some people want it to be.
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Maybe so but why was it kept a secret until this book forced them to admit it?
 
shanners said:
I first thought to put this in the history sub-forum but seeing there seems to be lots of discussion on WWII in this one, here goes:

This is the title of a study by Bryan Mark Rigg, published by Uni. of Kansas Press, and documents the presence of over 100,000 Jews and half-Jews in the German military:

"Rigg reveals that a startlingly large number of German military men were classified by the Nazis as Jews or "partial-Jews" (Mischlinge), in the wake of racial laws first enacted in the mid-1930s. Rigg demonstrates that the actual number was much higher than previously thought--perhaps as many as 150,000 men, including decorated veterans and high-ranking officers, even generals and admirals."

Hitler's Jewish Soldiers

This is not some conspiracy theory. If it was do you think that the well respected Uni. of Kansas Press would publish it?

Here's a talk given by the author recorded at the US National Archives, 22 Jul 03. At 43min: "My research shows that we cannot look at the 3rd Reich in extremes of black & white. Not every German who wore a uniform was a Nazi, as we use that term today and not everybody of Jewish descent was a victim of the death camps."

61: "There are a lot of rumors about Heydrich having Jewish ancestry, possibly even Hitler ... one thing we can be certain about these two, is that they worried that they had Jewish ancestry. According to Dr Fritz Redlich, former head of psychiatry at Yale uni, who wrote, Hitler: Diagnosis of a Destructive Prophet, Hitler was tormented about the fear of having Jewish ancestry. Some facts - Hitler's grandmother worked in a home in Austria as a maid when she suddenly becomes pregnant. In the '20s there were a lot of rumors about Hitler's potential Jewish background. Also there were a lot documents about his family that were destroyed and a cemetery in Austria that was destroyed. So Hitler was definitely scared about something.Tthere was a history of incest in the family. and Redlich focuses in his book on the possibility of Jewish ancestry. Heydrich took several people to court for slander, accusing him of being a Jew."

Hitler's Jewish Soldiers Bryan Mark Rigg CSPAN 22 July 2003 - YouTube
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I know that as the war was winding down, Hitler took men out of concentration camps and put them in the army. I know this because an old Hungarian friend of mine was shipped from his camp directly to the Russian front. I think that your "conspiracy" springs from those facts.
 
jet57 said:
I know that as the war was winding down, Hitler took men out of concentration camps and put them in the army. I know this because an old Hungarian friend of mine was shipped from his camp directly to the Russian front. I think that your "conspiracy" springs from those facts.
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That book goes much deeper than that.
 
shanners said:
That book goes much deeper than that.
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Everything goes much deeper than that book.

There was no secret Jewish army in Hitler's Third Reich.
 
jet57 said:
Everything goes much deeper than that book.
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Try listening to that radio show in the previous post

There was no secret Jewish army in Hitler's Third Reich.
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Zionist Jews were allowed to set up training camps in Nazi occupied areas, to become prepared for fighting the Arabs in Palestine. That certainly constitutes an army.
 
shanners said:
Try listening to that radio show in the previous post



Zionist Jews were allowed to set up training camps in Nazi occupied areas, to become prepared for fighting the Arabs in Palestine. That certainly constitutes an army.
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Zionist Jews were allowed to set up training camps in Nazi occupied areas, to become prepared for fighting the Arabs in Palestine. That certainly constitutes an army.
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That tells me everything I need to know about you.
 
shanners said:
Maybe so but why was it kept a secret until this book forced them to admit it?
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Who is it again that is being forced to do what?
 
shanners said:
Zionist Jews were allowed to set up training camps in Nazi occupied areas, to become prepared for fighting the Arabs in Palestine. That certainly constitutes an army.
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You know Shanners, I haven't been posting here at DP all that long, but everytime I bump into you you're either fudging/minimizing the Holocaust or bashing Jews or Israelis.

Judging from the reply's in this thread, it's fairly obvious that virtually everyone else also views your antics in the same unsavory manner that I do.

Just for you Shanners...

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Over 10,000 people commemorated Holocaust Remembrance Day 2015 at the Auschwitz death camp in Poland
 
If we had a minutes silence for every victim of the Holocaust then we would be silent for eleven and a half years. In some cases the silence would be very welcome.

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shanners said:
I first thought to put this in the history sub-forum but seeing there seems to be lots of discussion on WWII in this one, here goes:

This is the title of a study by Bryan Mark Rigg, published by Uni. of Kansas Press, and documents the presence of over 100,000 Jews and half-Jews in the German military:

"Rigg reveals that a startlingly large number of German military men were classified by the Nazis as Jews or "partial-Jews" (Mischlinge), in the wake of racial laws first enacted in the mid-1930s. Rigg demonstrates that the actual number was much higher than previously thought--perhaps as many as 150,000 men, including decorated veterans and high-ranking officers, even generals and admirals."

Hitler's Jewish Soldiers

This is not some conspiracy theory. If it was do you think that the well respected Uni. of Kansas Press would publish it?

Here's a talk given by the author recorded at the US National Archives, 22 Jul 03. At 43min: "My research shows that we cannot look at the 3rd Reich in extremes of black & white. Not every German who wore a uniform was a Nazi, as we use that term today and not everybody of Jewish descent was a victim of the death camps."

61: "There are a lot of rumors about Heydrich having Jewish ancestry, possibly even Hitler ... one thing we can be certain about these two, is that they worried that they had Jewish ancestry. According to Dr Fritz Redlich, former head of psychiatry at Yale uni, who wrote, Hitler: Diagnosis of a Destructive Prophet, Hitler was tormented about the fear of having Jewish ancestry. Some facts - Hitler's grandmother worked in a home in Austria as a maid when she suddenly becomes pregnant. In the '20s there were a lot of rumors about Hitler's potential Jewish background. Also there were a lot documents about his family that were destroyed and a cemetery in Austria that was destroyed. So Hitler was definitely scared about something.Tthere was a history of incest in the family. and Redlich focuses in his book on the possibility of Jewish ancestry. Heydrich took several people to court for slander, accusing him of being a Jew."

Hitler's Jewish Soldiers Bryan Mark Rigg CSPAN 22 July 2003 - YouTube
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This is not really new. The Nazis were not that efficient nor always purists. But I am not quite sure, what you want to say. If a person paid taxes that killed people, that person was responsible for the killing. If you worked at the factory and used up Jews and other Untermenschen to produce whatever you produced, you were helping the Holocaust and feeding your wife from the spoils. If the soldier went to war, he was defending the Führer. You did not need to be a NAZI to be criminal.
 
jet57 said:
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That tells me everything I need to know about you.
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"Early in 1935, a passenger ship bound for Haifa in Palestine left the
German port of Bremerhaven. Its stern bore the Hebrew letters for its
name, 'Tel Aviv,' while a swastika banner fluttered from the mast. And
although the ship was Zionist-owned, its captain was a NAZI -- a National
Socialist Party member. Many years later a traveler aboard the ship
recalled this symbolic combination as a 'metaphysical absurdity.'
Absurd or not, this is but one vignette from a little-known chapter of
history: The wide-ranging collaboration between Zionism and Hitler's
Third Reich." (from Mark Weber, 'Zionism and the Third Reich')
 
shanners said:
"Early in 1935, a passenger ship bound for Haifa in Palestine left the
German port of Bremerhaven. Its stern bore the Hebrew letters for its
name, 'Tel Aviv,' while a swastika banner fluttered from the mast. And
although the ship was Zionist-owned, its captain was a NAZI -- a National
Socialist Party member. Many years later a traveler aboard the ship
recalled this symbolic combination as a 'metaphysical absurdity.'
Absurd or not, this is but one vignette from a little-known chapter of
history: The wide-ranging collaboration between Zionism and Hitler's
Third Reich." (from Mark Weber, 'Zionism and the Third Reich')
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Annnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnd?

The Germans wanted a Jew Free Germany.

Some Jews wanted to go to then Palestine,

Your point?
 
Is that Mark Weber the professional anti-Semite and gay hater?
 
Yes, it is!

"Since then, Weber's IHR has continued to decline. By 2003, it stopped publishing the Journal of Historical Review and limited its conferences to mostly small, one-day affairs with speeches by Weber or other IHR staffers. In 2004, Weber did plan on attending a two-day Holocaust denial conference in Sacramento, Calif., but at the last minute, the venue refused to host the event, forcing Weber to join with representatives of the neo-Nazi National Alliance in a makeshift gathering at another location. In his keynote address, Weber went on an anti-Semitic rant, warning that all of humanity is involved in "a global struggle" against "Jewish-Zionist power."

Mark Weber | Southern Poverty Law Center


I think we can discount anything that the racist Weber has to say.
 
zyzygy said:
I think we can discount anything that the racist Weber has to say.
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Not at all. His above description of the ship arriving in Palestine has been vindicated by Jewish author Edwin Black's The Transfer Agreement and Israeli historian Tom Segev in his book The Seventh Million: The Israelis and the Holocaust, which shows photos of German Jews arriving in Haifa in the 1930s with huge cars and containers of all kinds of household goods, including huge fridges. And by The Jewish news agency in Palestine, "Palcor", which stated in September 1940 that 500,000 Jewish emigrants had already arrived from the German Reich, including Austria, the Sudetenland, Bohemia- Moravia, and German-ruled Poland.

The quote comes from page 65 of Klaus Polkehn's The Secret Contacts - Zionism and Nazi Germany

And the SPLC is a holocaust lobby group which promotes frauds and liars like Ellie Weasel and Menachem Begin.
 
shanners said:
Not at all. His above description of the ship arriving in Palestine has been vindicated by Jewish author Edwin Black's The Transfer Agreement and Israeli historian Tom Segev in his book The Seventh Million: The Israelis and the Holocaust, which shows photos of German Jews arriving in Haifa in the 1930s with huge cars and containers of all kinds of household goods, including huge fridges. And by The Jewish news agency in Palestine, "Palcor", which stated in September 1940 that 500,000 Jewish emigrants had already arrived from the German Reich, including Austria, the Sudetenland, Bohemia- Moravia, and German-ruled Poland.
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Aaaaaand?
 
shanners said:
Not at all. His above description of the ship arriving in Palestine has been vindicated by Jewish author Edwin Black's The Transfer Agreement and Israeli historian Tom Segev in his book The Seventh Million: The Israelis and the Holocaust, which shows photos of German Jews arriving in Haifa in the 1930s with huge cars and containers of all kinds of household goods, including huge fridges. And by The Jewish news agency in Palestine, "Palcor", which stated in September 1940 that 500,000 Jewish emigrants had already arrived from the German Reich, including Austria, the Sudetenland, Bohemia- Moravia, and German-ruled Poland.

The quote comes from page 65 of Klaus Polkehn's

And the SPLC is a holocaust lobby group which promotes frauds and liars like Ellie Weasel and Menachem Begin.
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It is KNOWN that the Jews in Germany PAID their way out.

The Haavara Agreement (Hebrew: הסכם העברה Translit.: heskem haavara Translated: "transfer agreement") was signed on 25 August 1933 after three months of talks by the Zionist Federation of Germany, the Anglo-Palestine Bank (under the directive of the Jewish Agency) and the economic authorities of Nazi Germany. The agreement was designed to help facilitate the emigration of German Jews to Palestine. While it helped Jews emigrate, it forced them to temporarily give up possessions to Germany before departing. Those possessions could later be re-obtained by transferring them to Palestine as German export goods.
Haavara Agreement - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Germans wanted a Jew-free Germany... The Zionists of the time wanted Jews in Palestine. Everyone got what they wanted.

The poor Jews suffered at the hands of the Nazis, the rich could buy their freedom.
 
Hitler was Messiah or a quasi-prophet of god and now lets hope that the saints of sky save some devote Americans before the extinction.
 
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