Rep. Massie on 9/11 Documents: “It challenges you to re-think everything”[W:506]

Bob0627 · Jul 17, 2014

Those pesky 28 redacted pages sure have those who have read them fired up. There must be some kind of Saudi whopper in them that Bush asked the 9/11 Commission to cover up.

Bigfoot 88 · Jul 17, 2014

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Reps. Massie, Jones, and Lynch are pushing to have the documents declassified.

Former Senator Bob Graham of Florida (served from 1987-2005) has been pushing to have them declassified as well.

Thoreau72 · Jul 17, 2014

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Is the cat's nose out of the bag?

Interesting that they would not let those reading the document to even take notes.

If they have nothing to hide, why are they hiding everything?

Moot · Jul 17, 2014

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I'd like to know what's in those 28 pages, too.

This time line might help give a clue.....

Lie by Lie: A Timeline of How We Got Into Iraq | Mother Jones

Jango · Jul 17, 2014

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Of course it would challenge people to reevaluate their beliefs. Why? Because it's 28 pages on 'foreign involvement'. One of the chief complaints of the 9/11 Commission is their opinion that funding for the hijackers & plot is unimportant.

Mark F · Jul 17, 2014

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Jango said:
Of course it would challenge people to reevaluate their beliefs. Why? Because it's 28 pages on 'foreign involvement'. One of the chief complaints of the 9/11 Commission is their opinion that funding for the hijackers & plot is unimportant.

Well, that all depends on what the redacted portions of the documents say now doesn't it?

NWO_Spook · Jul 17, 2014

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Mark F said:
Well, that all depends on what the redacted portions of the documents say now doesn't it?

Exactly, any extrapolation at this point is merely speculation.

Mark F · Jul 17, 2014

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NWO_Spook said:
Exactly, any extrapolation at this point is merely speculation.

Precisely. Would I like to see these documents released in their entirety? Absolutley. But I'm not going to froth at the mouth over what they might contain (which could well be nothing of interest).

NWO_Spook · Jul 17, 2014

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Mark F said:
Precisely. Would I like to see these documents released in their entirety? Absolutley. But I'm not going to froth at the mouth over what they might contain (which could well be nothing of interest).

Indeed, there is no need for any hysteria at this point and I too am interested in the contents, however, I wouldn't speculate on the material until perusal.

Jango · Jul 17, 2014

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Mark F said:
Well, that all depends on what the redacted portions of the documents say now doesn't it?

The Congressmen & Senators who have commented on it publicly are the primary basis of what I said. While some here will bleat about "sources & methods", that isn't remotely the true issue here. The issue here is that a state other than Afghanistan got caught being involved and their involvement has been kept hush-hush for almost 13 years, which as you should believe & feel in your heart is major league bull****.

Jango · Jul 17, 2014

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NWO_Spook said:
Exactly, any extrapolation at this point is merely speculation.

I know that the S-word is a naughty one for fellas such as yourself, but regardless of that public display of revulsion, we all do it, and there's absolutely nothing wrong about it.

psikeyhackr · Jul 17, 2014

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You don't need to rethink anything.

You just need to do middle school physics correctly in the first place. :lamo

psik

NWO_Spook · Jul 17, 2014

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Jango said:
I know that the S-word is a naughty one for fellas such as yourself, but regardless of that public display of revulsion, we all do it, and there's absolutely nothing wrong about it.

WTF? :roll:

Jango · Jul 17, 2014

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NWO_Spook said:
WTF? :roll:

Mark F · Jul 17, 2014

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Jango said:

uch:

NWO_Spook · Jul 17, 2014

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Jango said:

I know that the S-word is a naughty one for fellas such as yourself

What? It is irrational to speculate without evidence.

but regardless of that public display of revulsion

What 'public display of revulsion'? It was merely a comment that carried no such connotation.

we all do it

No 'we' don't.

and there's absolutely nothing wrong about it.

Yes, there is on such an extremist site as this. Do we really need anymore dumbass speculation firing up the paranoia addicts? It seems Bush & Co. are condemned before the contents have been released. I'm no fan of the man, but that is silly.

Bob0627 · Jul 17, 2014

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psikeyhackr said:
You don't need to rethink anything.

You just need to do middle school physics correctly in the first place. :lamo

psik

Although you're right, I'm quite certain those 28 redacted pages have nothing to do with physics and a lot more to do with High Treason.

NWO_Spook · Jul 18, 2014

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I rest my case.

Jango · Jul 18, 2014

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NWO_Spook said:
What? It is irrational to speculate without evidence.

What 'public display of revulsion'? It was merely a comment that carried no such connotation.

No 'we' don't.

Yes, there is on such an extremist site as this. Do we really need anymore dumbass speculation firing up the paranoia addicts? It seems Bush & Co. are condemned before the contents have been released. I'm no fan of the man, but that is silly.

1) Bull****. You're trying to say that you never think nor say "I wonder _______," or some variant thereof. IF that is truly the case with you, which means that your entire thinking process is centered around what you're told & that you do 0 thinking beyond that point, then honestly, there is something egregiously wrong with you.

2) You classify Debate Politics as an 'extremist' site? Lol.

Jango · Jul 18, 2014

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NWO_Spook said:
I rest my case.

Of what though? The inability to think for yourself. The inability to recognize that other state's involvement in the worst terrorist attack our species has ever witnessed & endured was covered-up by the upper echelon of U.S. political leadership because of political expediency, among other things.

ozeco41 · Jul 18, 2014

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Bob0627 said:
Although you're right, I'm quite certain those 28 redacted pages have nothing to do with physics and a lot more to do with High Treason.

Was there ever a crime of "High Treason" in US law??? How was it defined given no sovereign head of state??

NWO_Spook · Jul 18, 2014

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Jango said:
1) Bull****. You're trying to say that you never think nor say "I wonder _______," or some variant thereof.

I don't commit libel and circulate hearsay about people without justification.

IF that is truly the case with you, which means that your entire thinking process is centered around what you're told & that you do 0 thinking beyond that point, then honestly, there is something egregiously wrong with you.

Again, mere invalid extrapolation, and if you believe such banal over-simplifications, then there's not much I can do about that.

2) You classify Debate Politics as an 'extremist' site? Lol.

You're in the conspiracy theories section and you can't identify the extremist nature of some of the views presented? LOL

NWO_Spook · Jul 18, 2014

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Jango said:
Of what though? The inability to think for yourself. The inability to recognize that other state's involvement in the worst terrorist attack our species has ever witnessed & endured was covered-up by the upper echelon of U.S. political leadership because of political expediency, among other things.

That one went over your head I see. No, it referred to the previous post and it's conclusions derived from bias, and my prior post gave you a BIG clue as to the meaning of the follow-up post, therefore your conclusion is somewhat wide of the mark by a country mile.

Are you a truther? For you extrapolate like one, that is, the formation of conclusions completely unrelated to whatever is presented, or more colloquially, how did you arrive at that ****?

Jango · Jul 18, 2014

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NWO_Spook said:
I don't commit libel and circulate hearsay about people without justification.

Again, mere invalid extrapolation, and if you believe such banal over-simplifications, then there's not much I can do about that.

You're in the conspiracy theories section and you can't identify the extremist nature of some of the views presented? LOL

So you do 'speculate' then, just not out in the open. Why did you say you didn't then?

Real-life plans > conspiracy dialogue ANY day of the week. Since by appearances you don't venture into the political sections of this board all too often, you're missing out of "extremism". Suggesting or claiming 9/11 was an inside job is not extremism.

NWO_Spook · Jul 18, 2014

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Jango said:
So you do 'speculate' then, just not out in the open. Why did you say you didn't then?

I didn't say that at all, I said it is 'irrational [in this case] to speculate without evidence. I speculate upon evidence and look for corroborating evidence and if none is to be found, that particular line of speculation is abandoned. Call me silly, but it was something I learned a long time ago at a tertiary level.

Real-life plans > conspiracy dialogue ANY day of the week.

That didn't make sense.

Since by appearances you don't venture into the political sections of this board all too often, you're missing out of "extremism".

That didn't make sense.

Suggesting or claiming 9/11 was an inside job is not extremism.

Well, that depends entirely on the nature of what is posited.