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EVIDENCE of something other than Flight 77 hitting the Pentagon.


Explain the debris consistent with Flight 77 on the scene.

Explain the RADAR tracking consistent with Flight 77 on the scene.

Explain the landing gear consistent with Flight 77 on the scene.

Explain the wheel consistent with Flight 77 on the scene.

Explain the engine consistent with Flight 77 on the scene.

Explain the DNA consistent with Flight 77 on the scene.

Explain the luggage and personal effects consistent with Flight 77 on the scene.

Explain the damage to the building and building facade consistent with Flight 77 on the scene.

Explain the EYEWITNESS reports on the ground consistent with Flight 77 on the scene.

Explain the PHONE CALLS that ENDED with impact consistent with Flight 77 on the scene.

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This should be a short thread. :roll:

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ozeco41 said:

This should be a short thread. :roll:

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Yeah...I think it ended when the final period was not followed by ....well.....anything.

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ozeco41 said:

This should be a short thread. :roll:

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If they stay specifically on target I would agree with you.
History however dictates that this will be a long thread where the OP's questions will never be answered. In fact I seriously doubt anyone will actually try to answer them, still it will go on and on and on and on......

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See what the experts say:


Major General Albert Stubblebine, U.S. Army (ret), Former Commanding General of U.S. Army Intelligence and Security Command, 1981 - 1984, commanding 15,000 intelligence and security personnel. Also commanded the U.S. Army’s Electronic Research and Development Command and the U.S. Army’s Intelligence School and Center and former head of Imagery Interpretation for Scientific and Technical Intelligence, 32-year Army career, states:

"I don't know exactly what hit it, but I do know, from the photographs that I have analyzed and looked at very, very carefully, it was not an airplane."

Patriots Question 9/11 - Responsible Criticism of the 9/11 Commission Report

More detail here:

“I can prove that it was not an airplane” that hit the Pentagon

Col. George Nelson, MBA, U.S. Air Force (ret), Former USAF aircraft accident investigator and airplane parts authority, graduate, U.S. Air Force War College, 34-year Air Force career.
Licensed commercial pilot and licensed airframe and powerplant mechanic, states:

"In all my years of direct and indirect participation, I never witnessed nor even heard of an aircraft loss, where the wreckage was accessible, that prevented investigators from finding enough hard evidence to positively identify the make, model, and specific registration number of the aircraft ... With all the evidence readily available at the Pentagon crash site, any unbiased rational investigator could only conclude that a Boeing 757 did not fly into the Pentagon as alleged. Similarly, with all the evidence available at the Pennsylvania crash site, it was most doubtful that a passenger airliner caused the obvious hole in the ground and certainly not the Boeing 757 as alleged."

Patriots Question 9/11 - Responsible Criticism of the 9/11 Commission Report

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Fledermaus said:

EVIDENCE of something other than Flight 77 hitting the Pentagon.


Explain the debris consistent with Flight 77 on the scene.

Explain the RADAR tracking consistent with Flight 77 on the scene.

Explain the landing gear consistent with Flight 77 on the scene.

Explain the wheel consistent with Flight 77 on the scene.

Explain the engine consistent with Flight 77 on the scene.

Explain the DNA consistent with Flight 77 on the scene.

Explain the luggage and personal effects consistent with Flight 77 on the scene.

Explain the damage to the building and building facade consistent with Flight 77 on the scene.

Explain the EYEWITNESS reports on the ground consistent with Flight 77 on the scene.

Explain the PHONE CALLS that ENDED with impact consistent with Flight 77 on the scene.

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Oh now this is easy!


EVIDENCE of something other than Flight 77 hitting the Pentagon.

Why you think you got evidence of a plane labelled flt 77 that hit the pentagon? I would like to see the complete inventory please.

Explain the debris consistent with Flight 77 on the scene.

Oh? Was the debris labelled, each with flt 77 painted them or what?

Explain the RADAR tracking consistent with Flight 77 on the scene.

You sure it was not the e4b that witnesses reported doing a flyover at the exact time the pentagon blew?

Explain the landing gear consistent with Flight 77 on the scene.

Someone dumped off the back of their pickup truck, can we see it please?

Explain the wheel consistent with Flight 77 on the scene.

Someone dumped off the back of their pickup truck, can we see it please?

Explain the engine consistent with Flight 77 on the scene.

Someone dumped off the back of their pickup truck, can we see it please?

Explain the DNA consistent with Flight 77 on the scene.

Huh? So you identified the plane by checking its dna?

Explain the luggage and personal effects consistent with Flight 77 on the scene.

What luggage? None of the people that walked out the inferno hole seen any luggage, more crap dumped out of the truck?

Explain the damage to the building and building facade consistent with Flight 77 on the scene.

Sorry man no wile e coyote print on that one, in fact the windows were not even broke where the tail had to hit.

Explain the EYEWITNESS reports on the ground consistent with Flight 77 on the scene.

Rummy said it was a missile,

Presenter: Secretary of Defense Donald H. Rumsfeld
October 12, 2001

(Interview with Lyric Wallwork Winik, Parade Magazine)

Here we're talking about plastic knives and using an American Airlines flight filed with our citizens, and the missile to damage this building and similar (inaudible) that damaged the World Trade Center. The only way to deal with this problem is by taking the battle to the terrorists, wherever they are, and dealing with them.

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I say it was a heavy smoker because we could see smoke


Explain the PHONE CALLS that ENDED with impact consistent with Flight 77 on the scene.

Oh man I'd like to hear those, got a link?

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shanners said:

See what the experts say:


Major General Albert Stubblebine, U.S. Army (ret), Former Commanding General of U.S. Army Intelligence and Security Command, 1981 - 1984, commanding 15,000 intelligence and security personnel. Also commanded the U.S. Army’s Electronic Research and Development Command and the U.S. Army’s Intelligence School and Center and former head of Imagery Interpretation for Scientific and Technical Intelligence, 32-year Army career, states:

"I don't know exactly what hit it, but I do know, from the photographs that I have analyzed and looked at very, very carefully, it was not an airplane."

Patriots Question 9/11 - Responsible Criticism of the 9/11 Commission Report

More detail here:

“I can prove that it was not an airplane” that hit the Pentagon

Col. George Nelson, MBA, U.S. Air Force (ret), Former USAF aircraft accident investigator and airplane parts authority, graduate, U.S. Air Force War College, 34-year Air Force career.
Licensed commercial pilot and licensed airframe and powerplant mechanic, states:

"In all my years of direct and indirect participation, I never witnessed nor even heard of an aircraft loss, where the wreckage was accessible, that prevented investigators from finding enough hard evidence to positively identify the make, model, and specific registration number of the aircraft ... With all the evidence readily available at the Pentagon crash site, any unbiased rational investigator could only conclude that a Boeing 757 did not fly into the Pentagon as alleged. Similarly, with all the evidence available at the Pennsylvania crash site, it was most doubtful that a passenger airliner caused the obvious hole in the ground and certainly not the Boeing 757 as alleged."

Patriots Question 9/11 - Responsible Criticism of the 9/11 Commission Report

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Two guys, both notorious crackpots whose views are definitely in the minority among their peers. If this is the best 9/11 Truth can do then indeed this thread is over.

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Mark F said:

Two guys, both notorious crackpots whose views are definitely in the minority among their peers. If this is the best 9/11 Truth can do then indeed this thread is over.

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Everyone who doesn't buy the official narrative is a "notorious crackpot" to you. Yet another shoot the messenger tactic, good for the ignorant and gullible, they buy it every time. Here's another one you would likely label a "notorious crackpot":



But I guess these people are not notorious crackpots unless they write stuff you don't agree with:

http://www.journalof911studies.com/volume/2010/Wyndham1.pdf

http://www.journalof911studies.com/volume/2010/Calibration of altimeter_92.pdf

http://www.journalof911studies.com/volume/2009/WhatHitPentagonDrLeggeAug.pdf

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shanners said:

See what the experts say:


Major General Albert Stubblebine, U.S. Army (ret), Former Commanding General of U.S. Army Intelligence and Security Command, 1981 - 1984, commanding 15,000 intelligence and security personnel. Also commanded the U.S. Army’s Electronic Research and Development Command and the U.S. Army’s Intelligence School and Center and former head of Imagery Interpretation for Scientific and Technical Intelligence, 32-year Army career, states:

"I don't know exactly what hit it, but I do know, from the photographs that I have analyzed and looked at very, very carefully, it was not an airplane."

Patriots Question 9/11 - Responsible Criticism of the 9/11 Commission Report

More detail here:

“I can prove that it was not an airplane” that hit the Pentagon

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Since your argument is that we should believe this man because he is some kind of expert let's look at this:

A proponent of psychic warfare, Stubblebine was involved in a U.S. Military project to create "a breed of 'super soldier'" who would "have the ability to become invisible at will and to walk through walls". Stubblebine reportedly attempted to walk through walls himself.

Can you kill a goat by staring into its eyes? That's the plot of a Hollywood film (and a U.S. army experiment!) | Mail Online

Col. George Nelson, MBA, U.S. Air Force (ret), Former USAF aircraft accident investigator and airplane parts authority, graduate, U.S. Air Force War College, 34-year Air Force career.
Licensed commercial pilot and licensed airframe and powerplant mechanic, states:

"In all my years of direct and indirect participation, I never witnessed nor even heard of an aircraft loss, where the wreckage was accessible, that prevented investigators from finding enough hard evidence to positively identify the make, model, and specific registration number of the aircraft ... With all the evidence readily available at the Pentagon crash site, any unbiased rational investigator could only conclude that a Boeing 757 did not fly into the Pentagon as alleged. Similarly, with all the evidence available at the Pennsylvania crash site, it was most doubtful that a passenger airliner caused the obvious hole in the ground and certainly not the Boeing 757 as alleged."

Patriots Question 9/11 - Responsible Criticism of the 9/11 Commission Report

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Good thing they found that stuff at the Pentagon.

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I think the most fascinating "smoking gun" (there are so many) working against the OCT as to the Pentagon strike is the Flight Data Recorder. As analyzed by Dennis Cimino, a man with strong credentials in FDRs, the damn thing was not even assigned to an airplane. It was bogus.

Another is the testimony of so many people who showed up there, some filming, before the wall fell down. And of course the same as at Shanksville, no engines, no landing gear assemblies, no passengers and no baggage.

And of course the work done by CIT showing that the airplane flying by seen by many witnesses was on the wrong path to have done what was done.

There are so many facts working against the OCT that it's hardly worth posting on yet another thread by Maus with another poster's name as part of the thread title. :roll:

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Henry David said:

I think the most fascinating "smoking gun" (there are so many) working against the OCT as to the Pentagon strike is the Flight Data Recorder. As analyzed by Dennis Cimino, a man with strong credentials in FDRs, the damn thing was not even assigned to an airplane. It was bogus.

Another is the testimony of so many people who showed up there, some filming, before the wall fell down. And of course the same as at Shanksville, no engines, no landing gear assemblies, no passengers and no baggage.

And of course the work done by CIT showing that the airplane flying by seen by many witnesses was on the wrong path to have done what was done.

There are so many facts working against the OCT that it's hardly worth posting on yet another thread by Maus with another poster's name as part of the thread title. :roll:

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Yeah, by all means we should just take the word of a single conspiracy theorist whose experience with data recorders is not actually analyzing the data and whose work has not been fact-checked by anyone. Yeah, that is totally convincing and certainly outweighs all the other overwhelming physical evidence and corroborating witness testimony. Cherry picking the least credible evidence while ignoring everything else is exactly how Holmes would have done it.

And CIT? Could you pick anything more laughable than CIT's self-contradictory "investigation"?

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Henry David said:

I think the most fascinating "smoking gun" (there are so many) working against the OCT as to the Pentagon strike is the Flight Data Recorder. As analyzed by Dennis Cimino, a man with strong credentials in FDRs, the damn thing was not even assigned to an airplane. It was bogus.

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His analysis has already been long debunked. The FDR confirms the plane crashed as stated.

Another is the testimony of so many people who showed up there, some filming, before the wall fell down. And of course the same as at Shanksville, no engines, no landing gear assemblies, no passengers and no baggage.

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Debris was found and it was consitent with the plane that was hijacked, you just dont accept it because it goes against your political ideology

And of course the work done by CIT showing that the airplane flying by seen by many witnesses was on the wrong path to have done what was done.

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Again already dealt with in detail but you refuse to accept the truth because again it goes against your political ideology.

There are so many facts working against the OCT that it's hardly worth posting on yet another thread by Maus with another poster's name as part of the thread title. :roll:

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You have yet to post 1 fact that hasnt been debunked

But then what would anyone expect from a "flight instructor" who doesnt know what ground effect is.
Seriously is there anyone more intellectually dishonest on this forum?

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Henry David said:

I think the most fascinating "smoking gun" (there are so many) working against the OCT as to the Pentagon strike is the Flight Data Recorder. As analyzed by Dennis Cimino, a man with strong credentials in FDRs, the damn thing was not even assigned to an airplane. It was bogus.

Another is the testimony of so many people who showed up there, some filming, before the wall fell down. And of course the same as at Shanksville, no engines, no landing gear assemblies, no passengers and no baggage.

And of course the work done by CIT showing that the airplane flying by seen by many witnesses was on the wrong path to have done what was done.

There are so many facts working against the OCT that it's hardly worth posting on yet another thread by Maus with another poster's name as part of the thread title. :roll:

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The wrong path to have mowed down four or five light poles.:lamo

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Henry David said:

I think the most fascinating "smoking gun" (there are so many) working against the OCT as to the Pentagon strike is the Flight Data Recorder. As analyzed by Dennis Cimino, a man with strong credentials in FDRs, the damn thing was not even assigned to an airplane. It was bogus.

Another is the testimony of so many people who showed up there, some filming, before the wall fell down. And of course the same as at Shanksville, no engines, no landing gear assemblies, no passengers and no baggage.

And of course the work done by CIT showing that the airplane flying by seen by many witnesses was on the wrong path to have done what was done.

There are so many facts working against the OCT that it's hardly worth posting on yet another thread by Maus with another poster's name as part of the thread title. :roll:

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The only thing bogus about the FDR is the lie you googled up and spread with no evidence. Idiotic lies from pilots for truth, using 11.2g failed physics.

RADAR tracked flight 77 from takeoff to impact. You claim to be a pilot, you use RADAR to keep separation between aircraft. Thus, if you a pilot have not written up RADAR for being bogus, you have failed to do your duty as a pilot to write up RADAR, and report it to the FAA. Where is your report in the FAA system exposing the danger of RADAR? It is your duty. Wait; you have no evidence, you made up the lies of no planes.

You lied about the FDR, it was 77's FDR, because it was found in the debris where RADAR tracked Flight 77 on 911.
DNA, you can't refute the DNA, you will make up lies, like RADAR, you can't refute anything. You have no evidence, and are stuck in the Conspiracy Theories section, you can't post this tripe in current events, or breaking news. Why, because it is a fantasy you googled on the Internet.

Flight 77's FDR has 24 hours of flights in it matching the exact flight's the 77 airframe made. Beat by science and evidence.

You claim to be a pilot, can't refute the RADAR. When you present evidence RADAR is fake you can earn a Pulitzer, but no newspaper will team with someone making up silly lies mocking the murder of thousands with fantasy lies.


http://www.ntsb.gov/doclib/foia/9_11/Rec_Radar_Data_Study_all_aircraft.pdf
http://www2.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB196/doc02.pdf
RADAR beats silly fantasy. 13th year of lies for 911 truth, defeated by science.

An engine at the Pentagon.
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll116/tjkb/77engine.jpg
Guess you are a pilot who can't identify an aircraft engine. Why are you not able to identify engines?
Someone lied, said no engine in Pennsylvania. A photo, 93's impact crater, compared to a crater made by another jet, oops, jets make impact craters. And an engine from 93.
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll116/tjkb/flt93debris11d.jpg
Oops, 93's engine buried in an impact crater made by 93. Found 93's FDR in the same hole. Why do you spread lies about 911?

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7forever said:

The wrong path to have mowed down four or five light poles.:lamo

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well debunkers and their toys are gifted with super powers



they think that 911 planes are invincible light pole mowers




of course every other day of the year they are not but we make exceptions for debunkers.

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Bob0627 said:

Everyone who doesn't buy the official narrative is a "notorious crackpot" to you. Yet another shoot the messenger tactic, good for the ignorant and gullible, they buy it every time. Here's another one you would likely label a "notorious crackpot":



But I guess these people are not notorious crackpots unless they write stuff you don't agree with:

http://www.journalof911studies.com/volume/2010/Wyndham1.pdf

http://www.journalof911studies.com/volume/2010/Calibration of altimeter_92.pdf

http://www.journalof911studies.com/volume/2009/WhatHitPentagonDrLeggeAug.pdf

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LOL, in the video they use April Gallop who got money for being hit by Flight 77. Your video is debunked by court action. Your video is a bunch of nuts spreading lies about 911. And you can't support any of the video claims with evidence; you never will. 13th year of failure, exposed again by the video of woo. April Gallop's claims were found to be frivolous in a court of law. 911 truth claims found to be frivolous by US courts. Oh man, what a great topping for the 13th year of woo from the movement of lies and fantasy - 911 truth. What an ironic name for a movement spreading lies, 911 truth.

The Whyndham1 paper? Debunked by RADAR, FDR, DNA. A fake paper, for a fake movement.

The Calibration paper is great, you published your own debunking... The paper says...

The recent complete decoding of the FDR file has enlarged and clarified the information available and has thereby enabled resolution of the contradictions. It is clear that this file supports the official account of the course of flight AA 77 and the consequent impact with the Pentagon. The file thus also supports the majority of eyewitness reports.

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LOL, as usual, the lies posted by 911 truth, are self-debunking. This paper supports the evil "official" story, aka what happened on 911. The truth of 19 murderers did 911. A tough plot with mega steps. Step 1, take planes. Step 2, crash planes. A complex plot 911 truth followers can't handle.

The WhatHitPentagon Paper? Is debunked by RADAR, FDR, and DNA. Plus photos of 77 debris. Oops, a bad paper is your source of fantasy?

What is funny, the second paper you posted supports the official fligth path, as found in RADAR data, FDR, and the path of damage. Your source are debunked by RADAR, FDR, and DNA.
Next time read the sources you post so you can delete the ones which debunk you outright. Why are 911 truth followers fooled by the lies from 911 truth? Not a pilot? Not an engineer? Why are 911 truth follower fooled so easy by lies?

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Mark F said:

Yeah, by all means we should just take the word of a single conspiracy theorist whose experience with data recorders is not actually analyzing the data and whose work has not been fact-checked by anyone. Yeah, that is totally convincing and certainly outweighs all the other overwhelming physical evidence and corroborating witness testimony. Cherry picking the least credible evidence while ignoring everything else is exactly how Holmes would have done it.

And CIT? Could you pick anything more laughable than CIT's self-contradictory "investigation"?

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Yes, I can pick something more laughable.

Your bluffoonery about things aeronautical. That is much more of a chuckle for me. Half the fun of coming here is to see you and Quag spouting off about aviation's things you know nothing about. :lamo

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Sunzi said:

LOL, in the video they use April Gallop who got money for being hit by Flight 77. Your video is debunked by court action. Your video is a bunch of nuts spreading lies about 911. And you can't support any of the video claims with evidence; you never will. 13th year of failure, exposed again by the video of woo. April Gallop's claims were found to be frivolous in a court of law. 911 truth claims found to be frivolous by US courts. Oh man, what a great topping for the 13th year of woo from the movement of lies and fantasy - 911 truth. What an ironic name for a movement spreading lies, 911 truth.

The Whyndham1 paper? Debunked by RADAR, FDR, DNA. A fake paper, for a fake movement.

The Calibration paper is great, you published your own debunking... The paper says...
LOL, as usual, the lies posted by 911 truth, are self-debunking. This paper supports the evil "official" story, aka what happened on 911. The truth of 19 murderers did 911. A tough plot with mega steps. Step 1, take planes. Step 2, crash planes. A complex plot 911 truth followers can't handle.

The WhatHitPentagon Paper? Is debunked by RADAR, FDR, and DNA. Plus photos of 77 debris. Oops, a bad paper is your source of fantasy?

What is funny, the second paper you posted supports the official fligth path, as found in RADAR data, FDR, and the path of damage. Your source are debunked by RADAR, FDR, and DNA.
Next time read the sources you post so you can delete the ones which debunk you outright. Why are 911 truth followers fooled by the lies from 911 truth? Not a pilot? Not an engineer? Why are 911 truth follower fooled so easy by lies?

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Court action? R U Serious?

Sad to say, but the judiciary is just as corrupt as the other 2 branches. Read it and weep.

In the case of Gallop, the court refused to hear her case. If that is not a sure sign of being insecure about one's personally held positions, if you know what I mean.

The judiciary has been corrupted by the war on drugs many years ago. This war on terror will also corrupt them, though truth is that some courts have ruled against elements of the Unpatriot Act and other such garbage.

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Henry David said:

Yes, I can pick something more laughable.

Your bluffoonery about things aeronautical.

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That would be everythign you say about aviation mr "fliught instructor"
Still aiting for you to explain your ground effect comments. Usually iunstructors are good at explaining these things but not so the great HD

That is much more of a chuckle for me. Half the fun of coming here is to see you and Quag spouting off about aviation's things you know nothing about. :lamo

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:lamo Every single thing youve said, ive proved you wrong on.
Why is that? could it be you dont know squat about aviation?
Is that why you run in fear from answering any questions?
The intelectually dishonest are so easy to spot and you stick out like a watermelon in a bowl of grapes.

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Henry David said:

Court action? R U Serious?

Sad to say, but the judiciary is just as corrupt as the other 2 branches. Read it and weep.

In the case of Gallop, the court refused to hear her case. If that is not a sure sign of being insecure about one's personally held positions, if you know what I mean.

The judiciary has been corrupted by the war on drugs many years ago. This war on terror will also corrupt them, though truth is that some courts have ruled against elements of the Unpatriot Act and other such garbage.

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You failed to report RADAR is bogus, a duty every pilot has. You failed to file the report with the FAA.

You can't support the lies you made up, so you attack the court system, a Gish Gallop not related to the OP. Except the courts know your claims are frivolous, and you can't do anything to save your fantasy. RADAR, DNA, and the FDR prove you wrong. You can't refute the facts with failed attacks on tangential nonsense you made up.

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Sunzi said:

LOL, in the video they use April Gallop who got money for being hit by Flight 77. Your video is debunked by court action. Your video is a bunch of nuts spreading lies about 911. And you can't support any of the video claims with evidence; you never will. 13th year of failure, exposed again by the video of woo. April Gallop's claims were found to be frivolous in a court of law. 911 truth claims found to be frivolous by US courts. Oh man, what a great topping for the 13th year of woo from the movement of lies and fantasy - 911 truth. What an ironic name for a movement spreading lies, 911 truth.

The Whyndham1 paper? Debunked by RADAR, FDR, DNA. A fake paper, for a fake movement.

The Calibration paper is great, you published your own debunking... The paper says...
LOL, as usual, the lies posted by 911 truth, are self-debunking. This paper supports the evil "official" story, aka what happened on 911. The truth of 19 murderers did 911. A tough plot with mega steps. Step 1, take planes. Step 2, crash planes. A complex plot 911 truth followers can't handle.

The WhatHitPentagon Paper? Is debunked by RADAR, FDR, and DNA. Plus photos of 77 debris. Oops, a bad paper is your source of fantasy?

What is funny, the second paper you posted supports the official fligth path, as found in RADAR data, FDR, and the path of damage. Your source are debunked by RADAR, FDR, and DNA.
Next time read the sources you post so you can delete the ones which debunk you outright. Why are 911 truth followers fooled by the lies from 911 truth? Not a pilot? Not an engineer? Why are 911 truth follower fooled so easy by lies?

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Thanks for your opinion, most of which is repetitious. I happen to think there's an awful lot of merit to Honegger's theory. Many things she exposes contradict the official narrative in massive ways. It's only theory though of course, without a REAL investigation we can never really know the truth. The official story though, is extremely far fetched. But that's just me. Unlike Masters of the Universe, I speak for NO ONE but me.

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Henry David said:

Yes, I can pick something more laughable.

Your bluffoonery about things aeronautical. That is much more of a chuckle for me. Half the fun of coming here is to see you and Quag spouting off about aviation's things you know nothing about. :lamo

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Liar. I have said almost nothing about things aeronautical. But does this mean you will be explaining ground effect anytime soon?

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I think the most fascinating "smoking gun" (there are so many) working against the OCT as to the Pentagon strike is the Flight Data Recorder. As analyzed by Dennis Cimino, a man with strong credentials in FDRs, the damn thing was not even assigned to an airplane. It was bogus.

His OPINION is it is bogus. Why didn't the experts who actually worked on that pick it up? Hmmmmmmmmm. Could one man be wrong? APPEAL TO (false) AUTHORITY

So, EVIDENCE it was something other than Flight 77?

Another is the testimony of so many people who showed up there, some filming, before the wall fell down. And of course the same as at Shanksville, no engines, no landing gear assemblies, no passengers and no baggage.

How many people ran INTO the burning building to look for debris? ARGUMENT FROM INCREDULITY

And of course the work done by CIT showing that the airplane flying by seen by many witnesses was on the wrong path to have done what was done.

And all the other witnesses that CLEARLY are in line with the radar data, the physical evidence, etc? APPEAL TO (false) AUTHORITY

There are so many facts working against the OCT that it's hardly worth posting on yet another thread by Maus with another poster's name as part of the thread title.

So, no EVIDENCE of something other than Flight 77.....

Trying (unsuccessfully) to shoot holes in the "OCT" (aka reality) is not EVIDENCE of something other than Flight 77.

re: Henry David's EVIDENCE of something other than Flight 77 hitting the Pent[W:62,723,809]

Fledermaus said:

I think the most fascinating "smoking gun" (there are so many) working against the OCT as to the Pentagon strike is the Flight Data Recorder. As analyzed by Dennis Cimino, a man with strong credentials in FDRs, the damn thing was not even assigned to an airplane. It was bogus.

His OPINION is it is bogus. Why didn't the experts who actually worked on that pick it up? Hmmmmmmmmm. Could one man be wrong? APPEAL TO (false) AUTHORITY

So, EVIDENCE it was something other than Flight 77?

Another is the testimony of so many people who showed up there, some filming, before the wall fell down. And of course the same as at Shanksville, no engines, no landing gear assemblies, no passengers and no baggage.

How many people ran INTO the burning building to look for debris? ARGUMENT FROM INCREDULITY

And of course the work done by CIT showing that the airplane flying by seen by many witnesses was on the wrong path to have done what was done.

And all the other witnesses that CLEARLY are in line with the radar data, the physical evidence, etc? APPEAL TO (false) AUTHORITY

There are so many facts working against the OCT that it's hardly worth posting on yet another thread by Maus with another poster's name as part of the thread title.

So, no EVIDENCE of something other than Flight 77.....

Trying (unsuccessfully) to shoot holes in the "OCT" (aka reality) is not EVIDENCE of something other than Flight 77.

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Don't bother. Not even Truthers take CIT seriously anymore and Cimino? His "work" hasn't made a dent.

re: Henry David's EVIDENCE of something other than Flight 77 hitting the Pent[W:62,723,809]

Mark F said:

Don't bother. Not even Truthers take CIT seriously anymore and Cimino? His "work" hasn't made a dent.

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If I recall, no-planers are being called "disinfo agents" by the rest of the CTers because the are making "real" Truthers look bad.