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    Re: Shanksville: THE Smoking Gun & THE Litmus Test [W:348, W:350]

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob0627 View Post
    If you can't see fraud in the official investigations, I don't think you're very wise to anything. The Shanksville incident was covered by the 9/11 Commission Report, the same one created by those whose majority publicly admitted they were lied to and set up to fail. Why would you accept such a report in which the authors themselves admit was filled with lies as anything but a fraud? Do you think that's wise?
    Ah, the manipulation of the truth, and you do it well. The authors never said any such thing.
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    Re: Shanksville: THE Smoking Gun & THE Litmus Test [W:348, W:350]

    Quote Originally Posted by NWO_Spook View Post
    Ah, the manipulation of the truth, and you do it well. The authors never said any such thing.
    From Thomas Kean and Lee Hamilton’s book, Without Precedent:

    "We were set up to fail."

    “There were also discrepancies between things NORAD was telling us about their performance on the morning of September 11-things that the agency had stated publicly after 9/11-and the story told by the limited tapes and documents the commission had received”.

    “Farmer believed that NORAD was delivering incomplete records with the knowledge that the commission had a fixed end date that could be waited out.”

    “Throughout the course of our inquiry, the topic that invited the most skepticism-and thus the most conspiracy theorizing-was the performance of the FAA and NORAD on the day of September 11, 2001.”

    “Fog of war could explain why some people were confused on the day of 9/11, but it could not explain why all of the after-action reports, accident investigations, and public testimony by FAA and NORAD officials advanced an account of 9/11 that was untrue.”

    “it feels like something happened in that briefing that produced almost a necessity to deliver a story that’s different than what actually happened on that day.”


    Who are you worried about that manipulates the truth here? Me or the 9/11 Commission Report?
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    Re: Shanksville: THE Smoking Gun & THE Litmus Test [W:348, W:350]

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob0627 View Post
    From Thomas Kean and Lee Hamilton’s book, Without Precedent:

    "We were set up to fail."

    “There were also discrepancies between things NORAD was telling us about their performance on the morning of September 11-things that the agency had stated publicly after 9/11-and the story told by the limited tapes and documents the commission had received”.

    “Farmer believed that NORAD was delivering incomplete records with the knowledge that the commission had a fixed end date that could be waited out.”

    “Throughout the course of our inquiry, the topic that invited the most skepticism-and thus the most conspiracy theorizing-was the performance of the FAA and NORAD on the day of September 11, 2001.”

    “Fog of war could explain why some people were confused on the day of 9/11, but it could not explain why all of the after-action reports, accident investigations, and public testimony by FAA and NORAD officials advanced an account of 9/11 that was untrue.”

    “it feels like something happened in that briefing that produced almost a necessity to deliver a story that’s different than what actually happened on that day.”


    Who are you worried about that manipulates the truth here? Me or the 9/11 Commission Report?
    Yes, I've seen this ad nauseum, but it doesn't state that the report is a fraud and full of lies. This point was raised by Farmer in his book and merely highlights the discrepancies between NORAD's and the FAA's version of events (note: context). It doesn't discredit the report and to suggest it does is manipulating the truth.
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    Re: Shanksville: THE Smoking Gun & THE Litmus Test [W:348, W:350]

    Quote Originally Posted by NWO_Spook View Post
    Yes, I've seen this ad nauseum, but it doesn't state that the report is a fraud and full of lies. This point was raised by Farmer in his book and merely highlights the discrepancies between NORAD's and the FAA's version of events (note: context). It doesn't discredit the report and to suggest it does is manipulating the truth.
    It wasn't just Farmer, the book was authored by the commission co-chairs. I guess English is not your primary language or like I said in the first place, you're not wise enough to know when you've been taken. These are just some quotes, there are many more as there are many other problems with the report and the commission itself.
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    Re: Shanksville: THE Smoking Gun & THE Litmus Test [W:348, W:350]

    Quote Originally Posted by NWO_Spook View Post
    Yes, I've seen this ad nauseum, but it doesn't state that the report is a fraud and full of lies. This point was raised by Farmer in his book and merely highlights the discrepancies between NORAD's and the FAA's version of events (note: context). It doesn't discredit the report and to suggest it does is manipulating the truth.
    Wow, cognitive dissonance if there ever was.

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    Re: Shanksville: THE Smoking Gun & THE Litmus Test [W:348]

    Quote Originally Posted by PW4000 View Post
    This is mind blowing. You nut cases waltzed into this thread deliriously deluded and full of yourselves - knowing full well that you absolutely understood all there is to know about Shanksville. ..?
    When did you refute the DNA? You can't, makes the OP nonsense.

    You don't understand a high speed impacts, can't refute DNA, can't refute RADAR, and thus you have a fantasy of no plane.
    The OP fails because the aircraft parts are all over the site, and thus you are spreading a lie. You ignore thousand of aircraft parts on the ground, and make up silly ideas based on ash that fell 8 miles away, that drifted on the winds, exactly downwind from the crash sight. Ash and papers are your big parts that are 8 miles away.

    You claim to be a pilot, yet you ignore RADAR data which proves it was Flight 93. RADAR you supposedly use flying, which you trust, is not thrown out the window for your fantasy of what? No plane? You can't be a pilot and ignore RADAR. So you must not be pilot since you failed to file an FAA hazard report to refute RADAR. Are you going to submit a report to refute RADAR?

    What a big lie, the OP is nonsense. Based on what? Either you are not a pilot, because pilots know RADAR works, or you are a pilot who make up tall tails and you don't understand the physics of a high speed crash. Give the mods your real name and have them verify your FAA stuff; When did you get your ATP? How can you fly and ignore RADAR?

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    Re: Shanksville: THE Smoking Gun & THE Litmus Test [W:348]

    The DNA was provided by the federal government to the county coroner Miller.

    The federal government is notorious for its deception.

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    Re: Shanksville: THE Smoking Gun & THE Litmus Test [W:348]

    Quote Originally Posted by Henry David View Post
    The DNA was provided by the federal government to the county coroner Miller.

    The federal government is notorious for its deception.
    Oh, so the feds went and collected the dna from the passengers before they boarded the plane, or not or, they just happened to have the DNA from the people that were on the flight manifest, or was it all cooked up?

    You can't ever logically prove your nonsense, so you just create more nonsense.

    It is like a conspiracy theory ponzi/pyramid scheme, keep creating new garbage on the back end to try to get out of explaining your theory.
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    Re: Shanksville: THE Smoking Gun & THE Litmus Test [W:348]

    Quote Originally Posted by beefheart View Post
    Oh, so the feds went and collected the dna from the passengers before they boarded the plane, or not or, they just happened to have the DNA from the people that were on the flight manifest, or was it all cooked up?

    You can't ever logically prove your nonsense, so you just create more nonsense.

    It is like a conspiracy theory ponzi/pyramid scheme, keep creating new garbage on the back end to try to get out of explaining your theory.
    It goes deeper than that,
    question: how do you get a DNA match-up from remains,
    A: you get a sample from a brother, or parent, or other close relative.

    So how does one go to the middle east, and collect up DNA samples of people
    who may ( or may not ) be related to the hijackers?

    the whole bit is warped & twisted!

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    Re: Shanksville: THE Smoking Gun & THE Litmus Test [W:348, W:350]

    Quote Originally Posted by Henry David View Post
    Wow, cognitive dissonance if there ever was.
    Nice try at flaming there, but I'm not biting on your rubbish.
    Last edited by NWO_Spook; 04-14-14 at 06:30 PM.
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