Boston marathon bombing happened on same day as drill by bomb squad

...or it could be like some movie script with an operation that gets commandeered by certain rogue agents. You know, could be like Lee Harvey Oswald or James Earl Ray type patsies?

Henry David said:

...or it could be like some movie script with an operation that gets commandeered by certain rogue agents. You know, could be like Lee Harvey Oswald or James Earl Ray type patsies?

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It is kinda like a movie script, except it becomes one with real bombs an real casualties. There's some stuff you can't fake.

Were they patsies... Definitely yes, I could point out a group of maybe 10 potential patsies... All with the same color backpack, same stripes, most of them seemingly full and heavy.

However, the ones that were security (including the guy with the radiation detector) were all In the aftermath helping police, so they may have just been potential patsies.

Hmm, the two kids dropped 5 bombs while detonating two, and then leaving on foot??

Then, they arrested someone, followed by cancelled press conference, bomb scare with the military getting involves at the court house.

Next there were the Saudi guy(s) that were about to be deported when they met with obamas wife and then were found floating in the river a few days later?

Then the eyewitness reports conflict with the death of suspect 1. Followed by martial law over an entire city searching for 1 man. Ending in a "shoot out" with an unarmed man, who surprisingly survived and moments later needed a tracheotomy an would likely never speak again, except in the hospital to confess for the crime??

Also, there were bomb drills reported by people there, reports of being told to "keep calm" moments before the bomb, the there was (not if this was the ONLY evidence, but adds to suspicion of foreknowledge) the family guy episode that included murder at the Boston marathon, then later in the same episode two cell phone bombs being blown up about 5-10 seconds apart... The details included, though not in succession, but definitely within the same episode. (called Taliban cowboy or something)

Did I mention the FBI LITERALLY TELLING THE WORLD THAT THE ONLY TRUST WORTHY PICTURES WERE THE ONES PRESENTED BY THE FBI?!? Then, after getting 4 questions concerning the OTHER POTENTIAL SUSPECTS, the press conference was shut down.

I don't know what DID happen, but clearly there was more going on than could be accounted for simply with two people... Even though I doubt the patsies were really INNOCENT in this either, if they were even the intended patsy, individuals investigating this event had found the relevant pictures BEFORE the media, and so, it would seem that in a way, a civil war in the country was nearly averted in the country because if that was what some of the news wanted and the right wing gun owner linked to Alquaida was responsible (the one with the beard and the blue jacket clearly holding a heavy bag consistent with the one found in the aftermath) then the gun grab would have been successful and the battle lines would be drawn.

Henry David said:

could be like Lee Harvey Oswald

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"As Lee Harvey Oswald knows, the lifespan of a patsy after an operation is very short. It is likely Tippet was supposed to kill Oswald, and when that failed Oswald was supposed to die 'resisting arrest' in the Texas Theater, until they had to send in Jack Ruby to do the job. Both brothers were supposed to end up dead. . . . ."


xymphora: The lifespan of a patsy

BmanMcfly said:

Did I mention the FBI LITERALLY TELLING THE WORLD THAT THE ONLY TRUST WORTHY PICTURES WERE THE ONES PRESENTED BY THE FBI?!? Then, after getting 4 questions concerning the OTHER POTENTIAL SUSPECTS, the press conference was shut down.

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'We are still in a situation where the only evidence against the brothers is the photo analysis performed by American government officials.

And yet if you look at the photos something doesn't click: "Boston Bombing Suspect Charged":

"Authorities claim both brothers used pressure cookers packed with metal and ball bearings rigged to explode. How they fit in their back packs wasn't explained. Ones they wore weren't large enough."

I've been looking at my pressure cooler and thinking exactly the same thing. A pressure cooker is a cylinder. If you managed to squeeze it into such a backpack - and I don't think you could - it would form a noticeable shape in the backpack. A pressure cooker filled with shrapnel would also be very heavy and there is no evidence of heaviness in the photos. Even the 'Craft' backpacks which are bigger would not have been big enough. You would need something like a duffel bag, and the heft of it would be obvious in the gait of the person carrying it.'


xymphora: Round peg in thin rectangular hole

I don't know what DID happen, but clearly there was more going on than could be accounted for simply with two people... Even though I doubt the patsies were really INNOCENT in this either, if they were even the intended patsy, individuals investigating this event had found the relevant pictures BEFORE the media, and so, it would seem that in a way, a civil war in the country was nearly averted in the country because if that was what some of the news wanted and the right wing gun owner linked to Alquaida was responsible (the one with the beard and the blue jacket clearly holding a heavy bag consistent with the one found in the aftermath) then the gun grab would have been successful and the battle lines would be drawn.

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'"Was Boston Bombers ‘Uncle Ruslan’ with the CIA?" by Daniel Hopsicker - family connections in all sorts of interesting directions, both high-level Americans and local gangsters.

"Craig Murray: ‘Official Tsarnaev Story Makes No Sense’" "Boston Marathon bombing: Tamerlan Tsarnaev may have met Dagestan rebels" The Russians must have known and let Tamerlan in for a visit as part of this cat and mouse game they are playing with the Americans (better to let him in and leave doubt in the Americans whether he can be trusted).

"Chechen Terrorists and the Neocons" by Coleen Rowley

Tamerlan was a high-level boxer who would have needed steroids and so ran with local gangster drug dealers:

"MA - Waltham Triple Murder, 12 Sept 2011"
"“Boston Bomber's” Former Friends Suspect Him In Triple Murder"
"The Reported 'Best Friend' Of The Dead Boston Bombing Suspect Was The Victim In Brutal Unsolved Murder Two Years Ago"
"Owners of 'Terrorista #1' BMW taken into custody over Boston bombings AGAIN: Feds arrest two men 'who were friends with suspect for immigration violation'"

It is amusing how absolutely classic Tamerlan's background is for him to end up as the patsy of an intelligence agency.'


xymphora: Connections make the patsy


And:

'"After Attack, Suspects Returned to Routines, Raising No Suspicions"

"Boston bombers’ uncle married daughter of top CIA official"

Read these two articles. How do you deal with the amazing 'coincidences' in the life of the uncle? How do you deal with the combination of no attempt at disguise, suspects leading perfectly normal lives the day after, and then a crazed frenzy at escape (not to mention the amazing series of outright lies told by American authorities)? You just can't. If you have an IQ over 75, you can only reach one possible conclusion - false flag.'


xymphora: The only possible conclusion

Daniel Hopsicker describes it well, regarding the AP handling of the story of Misha. It's like they are saying "when you do it, it's conspiracy theory, but when we do it, it's informed speculation.' Such a double standard, but that's the way it is today with the mainstream media.

"Among all the claims and allegations made by the FBI and the media about Tamarlan and Dzhokhar Tsarnaev the only one that really matters is whether they carried out the bombings at the Boston Marathon. If they did, they must have brought the bombs, which would have weighed at least 20 pounds (10 kilos) each, in the backpacks they were seen carrying.

"If the devices were pressure cooker bombs packed with ball bearings, BB's, and nails, as alleged, these would have been very heavy and large objects that would have weighed as much as 5 bags of sugar, for example. Such a heavy and dense object would be noticeable as it would pull hard on the straps of the backpack and stretch it out of shape. These effects can not be seen on the backpacks being carried by the Tsarnaev brothers, strongly suggesting that they did not carry the bombs as alleged.

IS WHITE THE SAME AS BLACK?

"Furthermore, the FBI says that both bombs were in black bags, but Dzhokhar's bag is clearly white or silver/grey. It is definitely not black. So what is the evidence linking him to either bomb?"




The Boston Bombings - "Terror is Theatre"


"From the beginning, I found the official explanation that Dzhokhar ran over his own brother and was able to flee from the police hard to believe. It simply did not make sense that the 19-year-old Dzhokhar could just drive away from hordes of police with their weapons drawn and high-powered cop cruisers at hand. Furthermore, there were no reports of a police chase using vehicles."


Eyewitness Saw Police SUV Run Over Tamarlan Tsarnaev

shanners said:

If they did, they must have brought the bombs, which would have weighed at least 20 pounds (10 kilos) each, in the backpacks they were seen carrying.

Such a heavy and dense object would be noticeable as it would pull hard on the straps of the backpack and stretch it out of shape.

If you managed to squeeze it into such a backpack - and I don't think you could - it would form a noticeable shape in the backpack. A pressure cooker filled with shrapnel would also be very heavy and there is no evidence of heaviness in the photos. Even the 'Craft' backpacks which are bigger would not have been big enough. You would need something like a duffel bag, and the heft of it would be obvious in the gait of the person carrying it.

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I can fit my pressure cooker in my backpack, just tried it. And 20lbs isn't very heavy, junior. I don't walk with a weird gait when lugging even twice that while hiking.

Just wondering, did you actually try what you are claiming?... or did you just spout off what "seems" right to you like all of the other stupid conspiracy theorists always do?

505 said:

I can fit my pressure cooker in my backpack, just tried it. And 20lbs isn't very heavy, junior. I don't walk with a weird gait when lugging even twice that while hiking.

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Did you pack it full with ball bearings, BB's, nails, and what have you, in keeping with the official story?

shanners said:

Surprise surprise. Just like New York on 11 Sep and London's 7/7 controlled drills were happening in Boston as the bombs went off:

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Oh yes, because everybody knows that London was secretly behind what happened in Boston.

Here is a secret, something like this is going on somewhere in the country on just about every day. And just about every day some part of the military is doing drills also, ranging from repelling a force at a port to shooting down aircraft and training working dogs.

Because we are always training for the next big conspiracy that we so desperately want to keep everybody from finding out about.

Oozlefinch said:

Oh yes, because everybody knows that London was secretly behind what happened in Boston.

Here is a secret, something like this is going on somewhere in the country on just about every day. And just about every day some part of the military is doing drills also, ranging from repelling a force at a port to shooting down aircraft and training working dogs.

Because we are always training for the next big conspiracy that we so desperately want to keep everybody from finding out about.

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Do they involve non-commissioned officers in this conspiracy training, or just commissioned officers?

It's amazing the stupid **** people will fall for.

Henry David said:

Do they involve non-commissioned officers in this conspiracy training, or just commissioned officers?

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Oh, everybody partakes of such drills. This way when their new tippy-top secret plane crashes, some Private does not accidentally say it was the "MS-64 hyperspeed warp drive fighter", but instead says it was a "weather balloon". And when somebody reports seeing something strange, we know to say it was "swamp gas".

770. Drill in “Boston bombing” and “Texas explosion” (5/7/2013)

I had pointed out that in most of the “terror attack” cases alleged done by the Feds, they always planned drills which were identical to the terror case to assure the success of the plot. The perpetrators – if being caught – would defend themselves as practitioners of the drill. see “688. Anti-terror drill - bizarre coincidence (9/29/2011)”. Some of the practitioners might really thought it was a drill. That was what happened in 7/7/2005 London bombing. The drill became real bombing, the practitioners became sacrifice. After 7/7 London bombing, the informants work for the Feds have been rattled by the fate of those four “suicide bombers”, similar trick couldn’t be used again. So Tsarnaev brothers probably were told to prepare for the content of their backpack by themselves. The material might relate to a bomb – Pressure cooker; firecrackers; remote control toys….. only it was not installed into a real one. So they were sure they would be safe in a “drill”. It was true. But it didn’t prevent their master to plant real bomb at site by someone else.

I think Tsarnaev brothers were recruited informants of the Feds, work as a cover up team – S.S.G.(special support group). When the Feds had a big plot, they used to activate a lot of S.S.G. to help the success of the plot and play the role of witness.

The style of Tsarnaev brother cell is similar to another cell – Muhammad and Malvo cell in D.C. sniper case. (The sniper killing case was created to threaten law makers to pass the bill (H. J. Res 114) to authorize the use of armed force against Iraq in 2002. see #101 to #128. ) In these family cells, Tamerlan (Muhammad in sniper case) was the leader and Dzhokhar (Malvo in sniper case) was the follower. There were pick up as sacrifice because they were minority – Muhammad and Malvo are blacks and Tsarnaev brothers are Chechens. The leader, Tamerlan was put into death, (so was Muhammad) because they knew more than their followers. Dzhokhar and Malvo are in jail (you can imagine what they would be)

Boston marathon bombing happened on same day as 'controlled explosion' drill by Boston bomb squad
Boston marathon bombing happened on same day as 'controlled explosion' drill by Boston bomb squad

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Another official drill goes live after Texas fertilizer plant explosion
Texas explosion
April 18, 2013

Coming to light Thursday, only hours after a huge industrial explosion took out a Texas fertilizer plant, also taking out a portion of the small town of West, TX, potentially injuring or killing hundreds more, just so happens to be a little more than an hour’s drive from a huge hospital drill, coincidentally scheduled for the very same day.
Another official drill goes live after Texas fertilizer plant explosion - National Policy & Issues | Examiner.com

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The Texas fertilizer plant explosion is not a “terror attack” but as unusual as the Feds’ style. What do they want?

There is a Pacific Gas and electricity terminal near Milpitas Library. I am impressed by the huge pipes on the ground which is several blocks away from the library. I passed by that site sometimes when I go to Wal-Mart after leaving the library. It reminds me of the massive natural gas explosion that killed eight people and destroyed an entire neighborhood in San Bruno, CA, on Sept. 9, 2010. I think The Texas fertilizer plant explosion was created to justify an Utility gas explosion in Bay Area for a murder purpose.