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Economic Crisis Foreseen -- and WW3?

Try reading, translating and posting the following site: Neue Recherchen. There are very important details here.
 
Economists predicted the Great Recession back in 2003. They didn't call it a "prophecy" though so much as a mathematical forecast. Maybe they would have gotten more attention had they done the other......
 
psikeyhackr said:
Now this is interesting:

http://pro.stansberryresearch.com/1302PSIEOA1Y/PPSIP386/

psik
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I didn't watch the video to the end, but after a few minutes, my suspicion grew that it's satire, a parody on weird conspiracy stuff. But since I didn't watch it to the end (was just too painful), I don't know if this intention was revealed eventualy.

As for the point being made there: So the US is going to face a situation where the US dollar loses its status as world reserve currency and it has to be devalued via inflation. Big deal. Germany did that in 1923. The hyper-inflation was horrible for some, less so for others (especially those who didn't have much savings anyway), and basically done after a few months. It was a shock, but the effects on society were considerably milder than the effects of a year-long recession triggered by Brüning's austerity policy after the stock market crisis (which resulted in massive unemployment and Hitler's rise to power).

So why should this be so horrible?
 
Neomalthusian said:
Can we really expect the next 30 years to look like the 30 years our parents were working and raising us?
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No. It is already different.

And a lot of things are coming due.
 
German guy said:
I didn't watch the video to the end, but after a few minutes, my suspicion grew that it's satire, a parody on weird conspiracy stuff. But since I didn't watch it to the end (was just too painful), I don't know if this intention was revealed eventualy.

So why should this be so horrible?
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Germany was not a global power during its hyper-inflation whose money was used as a standard world wide.

Of course he doesn't say anything about the world economy having been run on planned obsolescence for the last 60 years. We are dealing with combined problems. I just thought some people might find that interesting. There is nothing to watch really. It just shows what he is saying on the screen. It is partly an ad to sell precious metals but he sites other sources for his opinions.

psik
 
Canell said:
Remember, many of these predictions were made before such things are even imaginable (see what I've posted before).
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There's very little, if anything, which is "unimaginable."
 
With the Ukraine crisis and all that, I thought I'd resurrect this thread.

What do you think? :)
 
German guy said:
With the Ukraine crisis and all that, I thought I'd resurrect this thread.

What do you think? :)
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Hello German guy ,

Sorry to intrude,but can I ask you, have you decoded Alois Irlmaier's numbers " two eights and one nine"? (what could they mean?) Also as I saw in the posts that you have done your research going back through history and seeing the patterns, do you see a possibility that this War is going start soon? Or do we still have a few more years ahead? I found Alois Irlmaier's predictions quite unsettling & would appreciate if you could give further info and a personal opinion on the outcome including Nostradamus, Edgar Cayce,etc's predictions combined.

thanks,
regards,
Consciousness_3
 
Consciousness_3 said:
Hello German guy ,

Sorry to intrude,but can I ask you, have you decoded Alois Irlmaier's numbers " two eights and one nine"? (what could they mean?) Also as I saw in the posts that you have done your research going back through history and seeing the patterns, do you see a possibility that this War is going start soon? Or do we still have a few more years ahead? I found Alois Irlmaier's predictions quite unsettling & would appreciate if you could give further info and a personal opinion on the outcome including Nostradamus, Edgar Cayce,etc's predictions combined.

thanks,
regards,
Consciousness_3
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Hello Consciousness_3,

have to admit, I haven't looked into the topic a lot lately. Mostly because it's too unsettling.

As for "Two eights and one nine", nobody I've read of seems to have an idea. Except it could mean a date, say, the beginning of the war on Sep 8th or Aug 9th on 2018 or 2028 or 2108. Likewise, the year could end on a "9" and the war start on Aug 8th. But that's all just speculation and won't be a beneficial information, if it came true.

There was another eery line by Irlmaier he made in the 50s (IIRC), about the future, which goes along these lines: "First, there will be a wealth as never before. Then, there will be apostasy from the faith unheard of. Then, over night, a huge number of foreign people comes to the country. Then the economy goes down, the money increasingly loses value. Then it breaks (revolution, war)."

Nostradamus, in his preface to his famous (but unfortunately coded) Centurials, more or less openly says that "the new Babylon (=godless empire, such as communism)" which "grew from the ashes of the first holocaust (=first World War --> Soviets)" will only persist for 73 years (1917/18 + 73 = 1990/91 = collapse of the USSR). But he also said it will be thought dead, yet return.

The Feldpostbriefe (in case you haven't heard of them, they're worth a look) include some statements that *might* suggest that civil war/chaos and war aren't to be expected before "the 40s", which might point to the 2040s -- if we're indeed to assume there is anything to these predictions at all. ;)


Personally, I feel one should be very careful with this topic. It may be greatly unsettling, as due to confirmation bias, many statements inevitably lead one to assume there is some truth in it, even when that's not verifyably the case. I've read from some people who basically ruined their lifes, either financially or personally or both, by taking this topic too seriously.

So it may happen, or not, but what you need, at any rate, is trust in God, and the ability to relax, even when you take measures for preparation. Never sacrifice more present for the sake of the future than common sense dictates. And keep in mind there are worse things in life than dying. ;)

As for the date as to when it's going to happen if at all, I don't know more than others. Could be next year, could be in 30 years. Or never. But yes, I too have the unsettling impression the current track the world is on, eerily resembles that scenario. Watch out for an economic crisis or even collapse. That should be the last big precursor of these events -- though at that point, it may be too late to take measures.
 
German guy said:
Hello Consciousness_3,

have to admit, I haven't looked into the topic a lot lately. Mostly because it's too unsettling.

As for "Two eights and one nine", nobody I've read of seems to have an idea. Except it could mean a date, say, the beginning of the war on Sep 8th or Aug 9th on 2018 or 2028 or 2108. Likewise, the year could end on a "9" and the war start on Aug 8th. But that's all just speculation and won't be a beneficial information, if it came true.

There was another eery line by Irlmaier he made in the 50s (IIRC), about the future, which goes along these lines: "First, there will be a wealth as never before. Then, there will be apostasy from the faith unheard of. Then, over night, a huge number of foreign people comes to the country. Then the economy goes down, the money increasingly loses value. Then it breaks (revolution, war)."

Nostradamus, in his preface to his famous (but unfortunately coded) Centurials, more or less openly says that "the new Babylon (=godless empire, such as communism)" which "grew from the ashes of the first holocaust (=first World War --> Soviets)" will only persist for 73 years (1917/18 + 73 = 1990/91 = collapse of the USSR). But he also said it will be thought dead, yet return.

The Feldpostbriefe (in case you haven't heard of them, they're worth a look) include some statements that *might* suggest that civil war/chaos and war aren't to be expected before "the 40s", which might point to the 2040s -- if we're indeed to assume there is anything to these predictions at all. ;)


Personally, I feel one should be very careful with this topic. It may be greatly unsettling, as due to confirmation bias, many statements inevitably lead one to assume there is some truth in it, even when that's not verifyably the case. I've read from some people who basically ruined their lifes, either financially or personally or both, by taking this topic too seriously.

So it may happen, or not, but what you need, at any rate, is trust in God, and the ability to relax, even when you take measures for preparation. Never sacrifice more present for the sake of the future than common sense dictates. And keep in mind there are worse things in life than dying. ;)

As for the date as to when it's going to happen if at all, I don't know more than others. Could be next year, could be in 30 years. Or never. But yes, I too have the unsettling impression the current track the world is on, eerily resembles that scenario. Watch out for an economic crisis or even collapse. That should be the last big precursor of these events -- though at that point, it may be too late to take measures.
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So you are saying "something might happen sometime i'?
 
zyzygy said:
So you are saying "something might happen sometime i'?
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Basically, yes. ;)

However, "something" may be a bit less broad than lightning from the sky.

*If* economy in the EU collapses, civil war isn't far away, and millions of refugees and unsolved problems with migrants don't make it less likely. *If* the US are no longer willing or capable of defending Europe and/or a foreign power was willing to abuse domestic unrest, it would have to be Russia, as no other power is close enough. So it all has some kind of internal logic.

You already see hints towards this development that, in the worst case, might become virulent.
 
This thread reminded me of a video clip

 
calamity said:
This thread reminded me of a video clip

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Yep, that's funny.

That said, real good prophecies -- regardless if they're just lucky guesses, self-fulfilling prophecies or working on confirmation bias -- are an art. It's not so easy to write prophecies and predictions that are so intruguing and well-crafted they keep many people busy for years (or even keep people busy for 2500+ years, as those in the Bible).
 
German guy said:
Basically, yes. ;)

However, "something" may be a bit less broad than lightning from the sky.

*If* economy in the EU collapses, civil war isn't far away, and millions of refugees and unsolved problems with migrants don't make it less likely. *If* the US are no longer willing or capable of defending Europe and/or a foreign power was willing to abuse domestic unrest, it would have to be Russia, as no other power is close enough. So it all has some kind of internal logic.

You already see hints towards this development that, in the worst case, might become virulent.
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I think it has less to do with 'psychic' mysticism and more to do with sensing patterns and engaging in a form of informal or inductive reasoning, really, and in turn that causes an 'epiphany' of sorts. Some people have them often, others never do. For instance, I was never very good at math, but being lazy and not wanting to write down hundreds of dead-end lines of 'logical' problem solving, I would often just guess at solving quadratic equations and functions in pre-calculus and calculus, and would often find a solution faster than others doing what they were 'supposed' to do in solving them. This was especially useful on 5th degree equations and above. Of course, it isn't impressive at all when your instructor calls upon you and you have to explain how you solved them, because of course you're just guessing, so you mumble like a moron and he goes on to bother some other poor soul.

In the case of what you're experiencing, I think there is a term called 'hyper-convergences' you may be seeing; it's used on computer science normally but I think it applies to other fields with less defined 'facts' both visible and invisible, wherein many seemingly unrelated events all play a part in causing a future outcome, and you sense this despite not knowing or even being aware of all the various lines converging.

Adding to this, you also have the possibility that some other lines come into play after your 'epiphany' that takes events in an entirely different direction and your specifics never happen, which means your 'guess' was indeed right at the time you made it, but nonetheless never happens; it just would have if all else had stayed the 'same'.
 
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Oberon said:
I think it has less to do with 'psychic' mysticism and more to do with sensing patterns and engaging in a form of informal or inductive reasoning, really, and in turn that causes an 'epiphany' of sorts. Some people have them often, others never do. For instance, I was never very good at math, but being lazy and not wanting to write down hundreds of dead-end lines of 'logical' problem solving, I would often just guess at solving quadratic equations and functions in pre-calculus and calculus, and would often find a solution faster than others doing what they were 'supposed' to do in solving them. This was especially useful on 5th degree equations and above. Of course, it isn't impressive at all when your instructor calls upon you and you have to explain how you solved them, because of course you're just guessing, so you mumble like a moron and he goes on to bother some other poor soul.

In the case of what you're experiencing, I think there is a term called 'hyper-convergences' you may be seeing; it's used on computer science normally but I think it applies to other fields with less defined 'facts' both visible and invisible, wherein many seemingly unrelated events all play a part in causing a future outcome, and you sense this despite not knowing or even being aware of all the various lines converging.

Adding to this, you also have the possibility that some other lines come into play after your 'epiphany' that takes events in an entirely different direction and your specifics never happen, which means your 'guess' was indeed right at the time you made it, but nonetheless never happens; it just would have if all else had stayed the 'same'.
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That's an interesting view to look at the phenomenon. Makes a lot of sense.

I sometimes have the eery feeling real events are approaching the "predicted" scenario. At least the dominos seem to be set. Now it just needs an economic crash to set it all in motion -- and even that is not far-fetched, as the euro is still all but safe.

Imagine there is a huge economic crash, you can imagine there would be civil unrest in Europe, or even civil war. Imagine what happened if more than a million refugees can no longer be supported. There are far-right forces challenging the existing system in most European countries, and most of them flirt with Russia. If they ever gained power, they might easily call Russia for help and/or open the doors for Russian influence. And Russia is already waiting for any rift in the West to emerge, to take advantage of it as best as it can.

IIRC it was Veronica Lueken who said in the late 70s/early 80s: "Syria has the key. Either for peace, or World War". Just a claim based on the situation back then, when Syria was struggling with Israel over Golan?

Irlmaier said "the eventually igniting spark will be thrown in the powderkeg on the Balkans". Imagine the EU sinks into turmoil, and borders are closed to the immigrants. Then hundreds of thousands of them will amass in Serbia, Bosnia, Macedonia, maybe Greece. Such a crisis there might be just the pretext Russia needs to meddle.

Are those such convergences you mentioned?
 
German guy said:
That's an interesting view to look at the phenomenon. Makes a lot of sense.

I sometimes have the eery feeling real events are approaching the "predicted" scenario. At least the dominos seem to be set. Now it just needs an economic crash to set it all in motion -- and even that is not far-fetched, as the euro is still all but safe.

Imagine there is a huge economic crash, you can imagine there would be civil unrest in Europe, or even civil war. Imagine what happened if more than a million refugees can no longer be supported. There are far-right forces challenging the existing system in most European countries, and most of them flirt with Russia. If they ever gained power, they might easily call Russia for help and/or open the doors for Russian influence. And Russia is already waiting for any rift in the West to emerge, to take advantage of it as best as it can.

IIRC it was Veronica Lueken who said in the late 70s/early 80s: "Syria has the key. Either for peace, or World War". Just a claim based on the situation back then, when Syria was struggling with Israel over Golan?

Irlmaier said "the eventually igniting spark will be thrown in the powderkeg on the Balkans". Imagine the EU sinks into turmoil, and borders are closed to the immigrants. Then hundreds of thousands of them will amass in Serbia, Bosnia, Macedonia, maybe Greece. Such a crisis there might be just the pretext Russia needs to meddle.

Are those such convergences you mentioned?
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Yes, only I think there are more convergences than just a few, and this is why history never repeats itself in the same way over and over again, and also why it's hard to be precise or even exactly right in predicting future events. Maynard Keynes predicted the stock market crash in 1929, for instance, but that didn't help him keep from losing a fortune on his bet.
 
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