Thread: obama birth certificate theory.

Originally Posted by liblady

really? marco rubio the liar?

no, clinton and obama the liars.

why the inclusion of natural born in article two (or article 1 as joe biden calls it ("Constitutional Law Scholar" Biden said:



"Vice President Cheney has probably been the most dangerous Vice President we've had in American history. He has the idea...he doesn't realize that Article I of the Constitution defines the role of the Vice President of the United States. That's the executive. He works in the executive branch. He should understand that. Everyone should understand that.

ironically though biden stumbled into a partial right, the first article does describe the vice president's role in the senate, that must be what he meant)

Originally Posted by washamericom

why the inclusion of natural born in article two (or article 1 as joe biden calls it)

natural-born citizen as opposed to a naturalized-citizen.

its very easy to understand.

Originally Posted by washamericom

why the inclusion of natural born in article two (or article 1 as joe biden calls it)

To ensure the president was born a citizen of the U.S. (which is why there was an exception for those who were born before the adoption of the Constitution and therefore, not born citizens of the U.S.).

Originally Posted by Thunder

natural-born citizen as opposed to a naturalized-citizen.

its very easy to understand.

Yes, very easy ... natural born = a person born a U.S. citizen; naturalized = a person not born a U.S. citizen who becomes a U.S. citizen through naturalization.

Originally Posted by Thunder

natural-born citizen as opposed to a naturalized-citizen.

its very easy to understand.

if it's easy to understand, why hasn't it been defined, more to the point, why is it so controversial, even going back to 2008 when hillary and obama were so quick to sponsor a bill defining mccain's eligibility to run.

Originally Posted by washamericom

if it's easy to understand, why hasn't it been defined, more to the point, why is it so controversial, even going back to 2008 when hillary and obama were so quick to sponsor a bill defining mccain's eligibility to run.

why is it controversial?

because a very small but loud segment of society wants to focus on this, rather than real issues.

Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti

Yes, very easy ... natural born = a person born a U.S. citizen; naturalized = a person not born a U.S. citizen who becomes a U.S. citizen through naturalization.

so you believe mccain is a natualized citizen, not natuaral born, was he eligible ?

Originally Posted by Thunder

why is it controversial?

because a very small but loud segment of society wants to focus on this, rather than real issues.

anything, finer points of the american constitution become controversial without agreement. are you saying that being small but forcefully vocal is wrong in society ?

what i am trying to do here is move beyond any distractions that may preclude cogent discussion. it's post 379, and were still trying to get past name calling.

and when someone comes along to tell me it's not important enough for them to discuss, perhaps they should move along. (i don't necessesarily mean you). and sometimes threads change direction, that doesn't just happen in consipracies, unless there is another conspiracy i don't know about.

Originally Posted by washamericom

so you believe mccain is a natualized citizen, not natuaral born, was he eligible ?

John McCain is a very interesting case. He was not considered a natural born citizen at the time he was born. But because the law was changed afterwards and he was grandfathered in, his status changed to natural born citizen.