Thread: obama birth certificate theory.

Originally Posted by usda select

President Obama thanks you for your input. The issue is a loser brought up by losers. You and the issue deserve each other.

nancy this is a debate forum where people are supposed to discuss a topic.

i invite you to scroll back through this thread, or any birther thread. look at who does the name calling, excoriation, humilliating, and personal degrading, all without initial provocation. look who points the finger at us for being/acting crazy stupid and racist, and whom actually acts that way.
i'd like to know why that is, for such a silly, non threatening, non issue.

Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti

To compare the popularity of Ayers with the New York Yankees is beyond ludicrous, completely undermines your position, and leads me to suspect you really are a poe.

i'm really going to dig into this thanks to your help. but the focus has been on barack not knowing whom ayers and dorhn were. but know i really do have suspicions about robinson. she was high up in the chicago machine. i wonder if valerie jarrett or richard or william daley or david axelrod or rahm emanuel knew whom the chicago seven or the underground were. and if they did, when did they find out. i'm off to chicago for awhile, i still know lots of people there. it may be a little dangerous, but i think the entire obama/robinson chicago history should be vetted for the upcoming election.

it seems to me that they should have known. now we have a situtation where maybe some of them knew but didn't tell their candidate barack obama. that may be worse than obama just lying about ayers "just being a guy from the neighborhood" who's kids all went to school together axelrod.

question authority. i wonder if robinson et al. ever wrote anything that would indicate they knew chicago's sordid political history of corruption, before the "president" launched his political career in bill ayers and bernadine dorhn's livingroom.

this is why i do these forums, despite the abuse. they help me think and organise, and helps to put things into perspective. i hope obama is as pure in character as you all think, but i have serious reservations now.

we need to find out if ayers helped with "dreams".

Originally Posted by washamericom

nancy this is a debate forum where people are supposed to discuss a topic.

i invite you to scroll back through this thread, or any birther thread. look at who does the name calling, excoriation, humilliating, and personal degrading, all without initial provocation. look who points the finger at us for being/acting crazy stupid and racist, and whom actually acts that way.
i'd like to know why that is, for such a silly, non threatening, non issue.

At no time in the history of this country has such commotion been made over a President's birthplace. Most would be surprised to know that Bush II was born in Connecticut.

Face it...old yeller...if his name was Sam Smith, not a question would be raised about his religion by you guys.

If he was white, you wouldn't be trying to say that your President was born in Kenya.

When you base your attacks on someone's name and skin color, you set yourself up as a racist. That is your choice and you have the right to do that in this country. More power to you. But taking a stand comes with consequences; taking a repugnant stance like you and all birthers have casts you in a very dim light.

And, oh yeah, he's brought out his birth certificate which should have silenced this silly argument long ago.

Your President and I thank you for keeping this loser of an issue active however; when you're talking about this, you make all republicans look like yokels by association. Thanks.

Originally Posted by usda select

At no time in the history of this country has such commotion been made over a President's birthplace. Most would be surprised to know that Bush II was born in Connecticut.

Face it...old yeller...if his name was Sam Smith, not a question would be raised about his religion by you guys.

If he was white, you wouldn't be trying to say that your President was born in Kenya.



When you base your attacks on someone's name and skin color, you set yourself up as a racist. That is your choice and you have the right to do that in this country. More power to you. But taking a stand comes with consequences; taking a repugnant stance like you and all birthers have casts you in a very dim light.

And, oh yeah, he's brought out his birth certificate which should have silenced this silly argument long ago. (twice)

Your President and I thank you for keeping this loser of an issue active however; when you're talking about this, you make all republicans look like yokels by association. Thanks.

are you speaking from/for the whitehouse ? just curious.

i disagree about americans not knowing the bush family connection to connecticut, it's the obama connection that is drawing fire. most people know the bushes and ct, yale, kennebunkport, mass... that prescott bush was a 2 term connecticut U.S.senator. i do not represent all republicans any more than you the democrats, that generalization would be the same as saying that all democrats are the same too.

now let's get to your race baiting comment/accusation:

When you base your attacks on someone's name and skin color, you set yourself up as a racist. That is your choice and you have the right to do that in this country. More power to you. But taking a stand comes with consequences; taking a repugnant stance like you and all birthers have casts you in a very dim light.

i'd like right now for you to link to any attacks i made based in name and skin colour, or rescind. for the sake of the board, remember, a lot of people will be reading this. how long have you known me ?

in conclusion "my president?" not so much....

i like the old yeller thing... that was funny

Originally Posted by washamericom

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are you speaking from/for the whitehouse ? just curious.

i disagree about americans not knowing the bush family connection to connecticut, it's the obama connection that is drawing fire. most people know the bushes and ct, yale, kennebunkport, mass... that prescott bush was a 2 term connecticut U.S.senator. i do not represent all republicans any more than you the democrats, that generalization would be the same as saying that all democrats are the same too.

now let's get to your race baiting comment/accusation:

When you base your attacks on someone's name and skin color, you set yourself up as a racist. That is your choice and you have the right to do that in this country. More power to you. But taking a stand comes with consequences; taking a repugnant stance like you and all birthers have casts you in a very dim light.

i'd like right now for you to link to any attacks i made based in name and skin colour, or rescind. for the sake of the board, remember, a lot of people will be reading this. how long have you known me ?

in conclusion "my president?" not so much....

i like the old yeller thing... that was funny

I'm not in the White House.
If you're an American citizen, he's YOUR President. Sorry.

If you didn't ask the same looney questions about Bush, Clinton, Reagan, Truman, Carter, etc.... I have to assume there is something about Your President, Mr. Obama that makes you think he was born somewhere else.

Kindly tell us what that is.

Have you ever held the actual birth certificates of anyone who served in the Executive in your hands? If not, can you assume they are all faked? If not, why not?

Again, I'm guessing it is something about Your President, Mr. Obama that leads you to such a repugnant place.

Originally Posted by usda select

I'm not in the White House.
If you're an American citizen, he's YOUR President. Sorry.

If you didn't ask the same looney questions about Bush, Clinton, Reagan, Truman, Carter, etc.... I have to assume there is something about Your President, Mr. Obama that makes you think he was born somewhere else.

Kindly tell us what that is.

Have you ever held the actual birth certificates of anyone who served in the Executive in your hands? If not, can you assume they are all faked? If not, why not?

Again, I'm guessing it is something about Your President, Mr. Obama that leads you to such a repugnant place.

but we're not talking about truman or carter, we're discussing former senator obama. did you find those examples of me being racist that i asked you to substantiate ?
i think some of the arguments i have made are pretty good. they are not lunatic questions nanc. how come michelle robinson had never heard of ayers and dorhn. and why won't the issue die ? i think they're pretty fair questions. (i know it's not just because of me).

here's a replay of your quote to me: "When you base your attacks on someone's name and skin color, you set yourself up as a racist."

let me point out once again, that you are acting a lot "crazier" right now, than i have at any point.

nancy we have to see the original birth certificate before we can see what's in it.

Originally Posted by washamericom

but we're not talking about truman or carter, we're discussing former senator obama. did you find those examples of me being racist that i asked you to substantiate ?
i think some of the arguments i have made are pretty good. they are not lunatic questions nanc. how come michelle robinson never heard of ayers and dorhn. and why won't the issue die ? i think they're pretty fair questions. (i know it's not just because of me).

here's a replay of your quote to me: "When you base your attacks on someone's name and skin color, you set yourself up as a racist."

let me point out once again, that you are acting a lot "crazier" right now, than i have at any point.

nancy we have to see the original birth certificate before we can see what's in it.

Just to be clear, you're not making any arguments. Arguments require facts and all you're supplying are suppositions and innuendos. Saying, Obama "should have known" Bill Ayers was once a terrorist, is not an argument. Saying Obama's birth certificate is a fraud because a photo copy of it looks suspicious, is not an argument.

Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti

Just to be clear, you're not making any arguments. Arguments require facts and all you're supplying are suppositions and innuendos. Saying, Obama "should have known" Bill Ayers was once a terrorist, is not an argument. Saying Obama's birth certificate is a fraud because a photo copy of it looks suspicious, is not an argument.

if i can prove it, it will be news. in the meantime when i'm well within my right to answer charges of racisim. unlike ayers admitting to terrorism, i am not a racist. so when it comes up i always like for people to show me where i have been a racist, so far no one has.
say the birth certificate along with this, is an argument: obama birth certificate - YouTube

https://www.google.com/#q=obama+birt...w=1294&bih=585

i think what you are looking for is for me to find the senator guilty of a crime in court within the scope of this conspiracy theory thread, you are right, i cannot. then it's off to chicago to find out more.
when i get to chicago, i still will not be a racist.

Originally Posted by washamericom

say the birth certificate along with this, is an argument: obama birth certificate - YouTube

https://www.google.com/#q=obama+birt...w=1294&bih=585

If that were an argument, and it's not, then George Bush is an alien...

bush is an alien - YouTube

Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti

If that were an argument, and it's not, then George Bush is an alien...

bush is an alien - YouTube

well played, my hope is that people read this thread.. and so far about two thousand people have, in the week it's been here. i have to catch the 4 o'clock capitol limited. i'll keep you posted.