BlueRipper

hello forum, can't believe im actually starting to enjoy politics.

i am a double major economics and finance. 2 years in. and given our current economic situation and the upcoming election, i have been following this crisis very closely.

economics really interests me but i feel it is a weak major where i go to school. so i figured go for it and get a finance degree while your at it.

accounting and finance are difficult and tedious, but also not enjoyable.

It is a very exciting time for an econ major, because we can see what we are learning put into action.

anyway i had a couple of questions...

I have never followed politics and never voted before, (im 22) because i felt that if i did not really follow what each candidate stands for i am in no position to decide a question like that.

i started following this election closely when the crisis began

i did this because my parents were in danger of there house being forclosed on.

I have since registered to vote, and would like to know one question.

HOW CAN THIS COUNTRY BE DIVIDED BY TWO SIDES REPUBLICAN AND DEMOCRAT?

there views are very opposing, and i find it astonishing that nearly every presidential race, is a close one.

I don't understand how that many people can be divided.

granted i would think that both sides think what they are doing is best.

this scares me that WE as americans do not have a togetherness.

it just seems to me that the most powerful economy in the world, AT LEAST BY NOW, would have an agreement between its members, for the greater good of the Americans and the economy.

but we are divided, R and D. i don't get it.

i am an independent voter, tell me why YOU think the side your on is better.

it just boggles my mind how are most powerful and intelligent, people (congress, so to speak) can actually be so divided.

it doesn't make sense to me how each member whether a D or R, sticks to there position, and believes SO STRONGLY, that the other is wrong about a certain issue.

i would think we would just have one party, and it would called something like this. "the best way to run this country, because of proof, and we are in the 21 century, so by now we know what we have to do?

the very fact that R and Ds, differ so much on certain issues scares me.

it says to me, "we don't know which side has the best view of thing" - after 80 years. and the fact that politicians can actualy play the politics card.

"which to me means caring more about your image and how you look to the American people than about what you are going to do if we decide to believe in you."

i just hate the idea that someone of heart and leadership and experience, HAS to resort to "politics" in order to have any edge over their competition.

tell me why i should be democrat or republican, not who to vote for.

thank you

Adam

jfuh

First off, welcome to DP.

As to your question, it's complicated.
However in simpleton terms we're devided because most of the nation fell asleep.
Most people have become completely oblivious to actual issues and elections have become a high school prom king/queen selection rather than class president.
Of course it goes beyond that, but apathy plays a huge role.
Good luck and hope you find what you are looking for here and again, welcome.

__________________
The facts and science of the theory of anthropogenic Global warming

P/N

Welcome to DP! I concur with jfuh's statement, and I don't do that very often. Most people don't care about the issues, and it's not just one party. Most of us here at DP do care about the issues, which is why we are here debating them. OK, some times it turns into fighting, name calling and attacking each other instead of the issues and our idiot politicians, but I think you'll find this to be the best political debate site out there. It's moderated very well (compared to some of the other sites we have been a part of), and there's a wide range of topics and issues discussed every day.

__________________
"The most terrifying words in the English language are: I'm from the government and I'm here to help." - Ronald Reagan

BlueRipper

this is exactly what im talking about, forgive my lack of knowledge of the subject or politics, forgive me for maybe sounding ignorant or dumb.

But any campaign that reduces to using ads that purposely try to make there opponent seem dishonest or a liar or not trust worthy is sinking so low.

and what gets me the most about politics is how easily the voters of our country can actually take that part of the campaign seriously.

"its dirty and everyone does it" is the most common response i can find when people ask questions like this.

what ever happened to "oh im 16 i can drink everyones doing it"

it doesn't make it right and i think that our nations leaders are being elected but dishing out these kinds of blows, is just unprofessional and very immature.

i would want a president who did not partake in any of that kind of behavior.

but the more i watch the election, and the media, and various forums on politics, is...

that is what it is all about.

i just feel like its not a healthy thing.





If you are running for president and you believe that you will change this country for the better and you are qualifies enough to be the commander and cheif. ..

i can see why it is in your best interest to do what ever is necessary to win that election: THE GOAL BEING YOU BELIEVE THAT YOU MUST WIN THIS FOR THE GREATER GOOD OF THE COUNTRY.

so if that means being sleazy, conniving, and doing whatever it takes to win, i can see how someone could justify this kind of behavior.

but it is what it is, and since its politics, and everyone has excepted this type of behavior from politicians it makes it okay.

I just think it is time to face the music, for christs sake we are in the 21 century,

its easy to blame, but taking responsibility takes courage.

its just very sad to me how easily americans as a whole are influenced by the media.


like sarah palin for instance, know one knew who she was so they immediately assume since she is young, and a down to earth women, that she couldn't be president if need be.

look, you can find holes in anyones argument, by asking pointed questions, all you do is just keep asking questions untill they seem unsure then you elaborate on what they are uncertain about then they seem like they don't know what there talking about.

ex.
someone asks "do you think caylee is alive"?
him: yes i have good reason to believe she is"?
someone: what makes you so sure?
him: well i have been on a case before and similar situation so it appears that she is?
her:what case?

ps. keep in mind this person asking the questions has no interest in what the answers are they are just trying to find holes in the argument.

him: well it was years back in california.
her:when?
him:i can't remember the exact date but i do remember the case was very similar.
her:wait you cant remember when the case was but ur sure it was a similar case?
him:thats right
Her: so your saying that u believe she is alive because u think u had a similar case but can't even remember when or what the case was about?

notice how she broke down his answer and made it seem as though he didn't know what he was talking about. just by continuing to question.

lawyers do this in the courtroom.

**********************

reason i never got into politics to begin with is because it just seems like a bunch of children fighting and seems like it would cause me stress.

although im am very intrigued now that the economy is playing a role in it.

thanks for whatever input guys.

Adam

Tashah

~Tashah~

BlueRipper - We have an excellent Economics Forum

__________________

WI Crippler

Welome to Debate Politics.

Alot of what you say has merit and is interesting. However I would implore you to explore the width and breadth of this site to discuss your opinions on these topics in their appropriate forums, rather than discuss them in detail here in our introductory forum. I hope you will find this forum informative, entertaining and challenging.

__________________
"What Jesus fails to appreciate is that it's the meek who are the problem."- Reg

danarhea

Why limit yourself to 2 crooks, when there are far better choices?

__________________
Jack Kevorkian for President's Physician: 2012

mikhail

Your not gonna be around long on here thats my prediction.

__________________
The third-rate mind is only happy when it is thinking with the majority. The second-rate mind is only happy when it is thinking with the minority. The first-rate mind is only happy when it is thinking.

GySgt

__________________

GySgt
Semper Fidelis
USMC