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"Apologists" and, well, Hey.

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MVictorP said:
Hello.

I have been lurking here for a couple of days, and it's been going quite well: Intelligent posters, not too much cheap stuff.... I have not seen enough moderation work to even give it a sure judgement, which is generally a good sign, as over-moderated forums quickly become sterile.

But I must ask The Question before committing myself too much here: I am a veteran of a thousand moderation wars, and I will admit to being either banned or leaving boards that were more political correction tools than ones of overture and exchange. Tell me frankly now and let's save ourselves a lot of acrimony a little later on, 'kay? Here is The Question:

If I am a facist/nazi because of a majority of reasons about it but not the ones about abusing/killing people, can I post here?
If I am a zionist because of a majority of reasons about it but not the ones about abusing/killing people, can I post here?
If I am an islamist/islamofacist because of a majority of reasons about it but not the ones about abusing/killing people, can I post here?

If you see three questions there, that's the problem - there is only one: I know your rules (to which I paid special attention, BTW) would make that "I" would still have the right to post but this is theorical codswallop - there are rules and there is their application. In practice, I'd like to know what would happen, in each cases if one sees many here indeed. You can see how this matter each and everytime one uses the term "apologist" here and there.

Oh, and hey. I would really like to find a discussion forum that's truly about free knowledge exchange rather than its restriction. I hope this one is it.

And thanks in advances.
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First, Welcome to DP.

Here's the skinny, you can post pretty much any ideology that you please so long as it doesn't break the rules. Avoid attacking other posters. Avoid slurs. Avoid hate speech (which is fairly well defined in our rules that you say you looked at). Also note that some sub-sections have additional stickied rules up at the top, read and follow those also. For example, Breaking News Mainstream Media.

You will also find that some threads have in-thread warnings where a moderator has placed a warning telling people certain things. (varies depending on whats going on). Follow those in thread warnings. Do not quote those mod boxes and whats in them. If you have a question about an in-thread there are only 3 acceptable ways to address them. PM a mod. Take it to the Binky section in the Basement. Use the Contact Us link found at the bottom of every page. Also when ever a mod puts in an in-thread warning you will know that one is in there by looking at the title of a thread. If you see a [W:XX] (where XX is a post number) you will know that there is an in-thread warning. So even if you claim to not have seen the in-thread warning your claim will be dismissed out of hand. Note however that the lack of an in-thread does not mean that you are free from getting infracted.

And something that I tell all posters that like to argue warnings/infractions...what you post is the only thing that matters in regards to your infraction. You are responsible for what you say. No one else is. Even if someone eggs you on past your boiling point you are still responsible for what you post. Also we do not advertise infractions here at DP due to privacy concerns. So even if you get infracted do not assume that the person that egged you on past your boiling point did not get infracted also. I know that is a common claim of posters. That we mods "don't infract certain posters". That is pure BS. The way our Moderation Team is that kind of thing simply wouldn't fly EVEN IF one of us wanted to moderate in a biased manner the other moderators would bring that moderator up short. Quick.

I've been here for many years now. Out of all the infractions I got not one single one was not deserved. And yes, Moderators can get infracted also. I will also note that for as long as I've been here I've had very few infractions. 10 to be exact. In other words... It's real easy to follow the rules. At least for me. :shrug: :mrgreen: We'll see how you do. ;)

Now, enough lecturing. I'll be keeping my eye out. ;)

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I have been lurking some more, and so far, I can say that I rather like what I read.

There quite a number of mods in here, but If your practice is as good as its theory, I think we'll get along well.
 
MVictorP said:
Please put some flesh around your bones. Why do you think this isn't the right forum for me?

Thanks in advance.
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I think he's trying to spare you the embarrassment of finding out the hard way. From what I've read... I'd take the hint.
 
MVictorP said:
I have been lurking some more, and so far, I can say that I rather like what I read.

There quite a number of mods in here, but If your practice is as good as its theory, I think we'll get along well.
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Splendid. :yawn:
 
EdwinWillers said:
I think he's trying to spare you the embarrassment of finding out the hard way. From what I've read... I'd take the hint.
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Funny that, how the "friendly warnings" are all coming from conservative folks. I didn't know I was so intimidating.

Anyway, thanks for the "advice", dude; And let "the newb" worry about his own - it will be easier on the nerves.
 
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MVictorP said:
Hey, 'Factor, I am seeing the "Dungeon Master" handle in your avatar; Are you a RP adept?
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If you last long enough, you'll figure out eventually what that means.
 
MVictorP said:
Were these facists and nazis given the boot because of their opinion, or because they transgressed the rules?
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Dependent upon the topic and who you've upset, the difference can be deceptive.

Welcome, btw.
 
Unrepresented said:
I'm usually particularly gifted at irony detection. I suspect you've got a false reading.
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Apparently not.

I suspect that if you know what "confirmation bias" is, you lack the wisdom to see when its applied.

The CB that I might look after in this forum is the same you have about me.

Are you considered an intelligent poster here?
 
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MVictorP said:
Apparently not.

I suspect that if you know what "confirmation bias" is, you lack the wisdom to see when its applied.

The CB that I might look after in this forum is the same you have about me.

Are you considered an intelligent poster here?
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I'm considered much more intelligent by those that agree with me than those who don't.
 
like most forums, the rules are merely a new set of tools many posters use to their advantage.

You can try to be civil, but don't be surprised when mods carry on decade long grievances against you and apply the rules in a very biased fashion.

it is what it is. still a pretty good sight overall.
 
ARealConservative said:
like most forums, the rules are merely a new set of tools many posters use to their advantage.

You can try to be civil, but don't be surprised when mods carry on decade long grievances against you and apply the rules in a very biased fashion.

it is what it is. still a pretty good sight overall.
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Thanks for the heads-up! By now I've got a better idea about this place.
 
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