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Stoney

Stoney

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I'm an old hat at forums and US Political discussion. I'm looking for a place where the rules are reasonable and discussion is not destroyed by members who are more interested in provoking angry response than reasoned thought.

I consider myself libertarian and have little regard for either the Republican or Democrat political parties. I am interested in Anarcho-Capitalism as a concept and pure Capitalism as a goal to regain the liberty that we've lost in this USA. I am not optimistic that this goal could be achieved. But negotiation often starts with optimistic pursuits.

I posted essentially this introduction in another forum with me providing only one reply to other posts in thread, a reply that was civil and respectful, and after several pages of posts that did not address me the thread was closed. I'm looking for someplace a little less combative.
 
Stoney said:
I'm an old hat at forums and US Political discussion. I'm looking for a place where the rules are reasonable and discussion is not destroyed by members who are more interested in provoking angry response than reasoned thought.
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Welcome to DP, it's not perfect but it's better than the rest

consider myself libertarian and have little regard for either the Republican or Democrat political parties. I am interested in Anarcho-Capitalism as a concept and pure Capitalism as a goal to regain the liberty that we've lost in this USA. I am not optimistic that this goal could be achieved. But negotiation often starts with optimistic pursuits.
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In my experience, purists have little interest in compromise
 
Welcome.

DP is just like that. You speak of other forums that are more interested to get one angry rather than provide a discussion? How pathetic! Those would be "trolls" here and are eagerly penalized by code following mods. You can check the codes that are reinforced from Mods on the site.

I guess I was lucky to find DP on my first try!
 
Stoney said:
I'm an old hat at forums and US Political discussion. I'm looking for a place where the rules are reasonable and discussion is not destroyed by members who are more interested in provoking angry response than reasoned thought.

I consider myself libertarian and have little regard for either the Republican or Democrat political parties. I am interested in Anarcho-Capitalism as a concept and pure Capitalism as a goal to regain the liberty that we've lost in this USA. I am not optimistic that this goal could be achieved. But negotiation often starts with optimistic pursuits.

I posted essentially this introduction in another forum with me providing only one reply to other posts in thread, a reply that was civil and respectful, and after several pages of posts that did not address me the thread was closed. I'm looking for someplace a little less combative.
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Welcome to the forum.

I suggest, to make you feel more comfortable about how things are done here, and to make sure you don't find yourself on the wrong end of a moderator yourself, that you read the Forum Rules (the link is highlighted in neon green at the top of every page).

Our mods are fair, but strict. We do have those that would stray from civil discussion, but all you have to do is click the "Report Post" triangle at the bottom of any offensive post, and trust me... the mods will take care of it.

Do not, however, think that we will not insist on you doing the same as we insist of any other member - to support your positions and opinions with facts and links to substantiating documentation.

I'm sure you will find a home here. We have a protagonist for almost every political and government form there is - even Anarcho-Capitalism Libertarians.

So again, welcome to the forum. Jump in and hang on...
 
Crovax said:
Welcome to DP, it's not perfect but it's better than the rest



In my experience, purists have little interest in compromise
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I would say that in my purest view there would be no need for compromise as long as we all believe that maximum liberty less harm is the goal.
 
Be careful what you wish for.


Stoney said:
I'm an old hat at forums and US Political discussion. I'm looking for a place where the rules are reasonable and discussion is not destroyed by members who are more interested in provoking angry response than reasoned thought.

I consider myself libertarian and have little regard for either the Republican or Democrat political parties. I am interested in Anarcho-Capitalism as a concept and pure Capitalism as a goal to regain the liberty that we've lost in this USA. I am not optimistic that this goal could be achieved. But negotiation often starts with optimistic pursuits.

I posted essentially this introduction in another forum with me providing only one reply to other posts in thread, a reply that was civil and respectful, and after several pages of posts that did not address me the thread was closed. I'm looking for someplace a little less combative.
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Stoney said:
I'm an old hat at forums and US Political discussion. I'm looking for a place where the rules are reasonable and discussion is not destroyed by members who are more interested in provoking angry response than reasoned thought.

I consider myself libertarian and have little regard for either the Republican or Democrat political parties. I am interested in Anarcho-Capitalism as a concept and pure Capitalism as a goal to regain the liberty that we've lost in this USA. I am not optimistic that this goal could be achieved. But negotiation often starts with optimistic pursuits.

I posted essentially this introduction in another forum with me providing only one reply to other posts in thread, a reply that was civil and respectful, and after several pages of posts that did not address me the thread was closed. I'm looking for someplace a little less combative.
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Welcome to DP.:)
We have plenty of "lively" discussion, and some occasional verbal combat, but overall, this is the best political forum I've been a member of. Every forum has its faults, but we have some excellent posters and members here, and we're sort of like a big dysfunctional family. Don't be afraid to test the water, but also don't be surprised when your view are challenged. We have a few highly intelligent posters here, and nothing gets by them. :lol:
 
Stoney said:
I'm an old hat at forums and US Political discussion. I'm looking for a place where the rules are reasonable and discussion is not destroyed by members who are more interested in provoking angry response than reasoned thought.

I consider myself libertarian and have little regard for either the Republican or Democrat political parties. I am interested in Anarcho-Capitalism as a concept and pure Capitalism as a goal to regain the liberty that we've lost in this USA. I am not optimistic that this goal could be achieved. But negotiation often starts with optimistic pursuits.

I posted essentially this introduction in another forum with me providing only one reply to other posts in thread, a reply that was civil and respectful, and after several pages of posts that did not address me the thread was closed. I'm looking for someplace a little less combative.
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Welcome to the forum Stoney! :2wave:

I've been here on DP for a few months and it's the best forum I've been a part of so far. There's a few nuts, but overall I like the people here.

I look forward to seeing you around! :mrgreen:
 
welcome to the forum.
 
This is the best political message board hands down IMHO. Welcome.
 
Stoney said:
I'm an old hat at forums and US Political discussion. I'm looking for a place where the rules are reasonable and discussion is not destroyed by members who are more interested in provoking angry response than reasoned thought.

I consider myself libertarian and have little regard for either the Republican or Democrat political parties. I am interested in Anarcho-Capitalism as a concept and pure Capitalism as a goal to regain the liberty that we've lost in this USA. I am not optimistic that this goal could be achieved. But negotiation often starts with optimistic pursuits.

I posted essentially this introduction in another forum with me providing only one reply to other posts in thread, a reply that was civil and respectful, and after several pages of posts that did not address me the thread was closed. I'm looking for someplace a little less combative.
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Yeah, well, ya' wanna make somethin' of it, buddy???

;) ;) ;)

Welcome to Debate Politics, Stoney!! Take off your shoes and get comfy!
 
Stoney said:
I consider myself libertarian and have little regard for either the Republican or Democrat political parties. I am interested in Anarcho-Capitalism as a concept and pure Capitalism as a goal to regain the liberty that we've lost in this USA. I am not optimistic that this goal could be achieved. But negotiation often starts with optimistic pursuits.
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Where do you stand on US foreign policy?
 
Stoney said:
I'm an old hat at forums and US Political discussion. I'm looking for a place where the rules are reasonable and discussion is not destroyed by members who are more interested in provoking angry response than reasoned thought.

I consider myself libertarian and have little regard for either the Republican or Democrat political parties. I am interested in Anarcho-Capitalism as a concept and pure Capitalism as a goal to regain the liberty that we've lost in this USA. I am not optimistic that this goal could be achieved. But negotiation often starts with optimistic pursuits.

I posted essentially this introduction in another forum with me providing only one reply to other posts in thread, a reply that was civil and respectful, and after several pages of posts that did not address me the thread was closed. I'm looking for someplace a little less combative.
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:wcm: Stoney. :2wave:

We have our combative moments here, too! :argue: It would be boring otherwise - but it's a fun site overall! When it gets to you, visit the Tavern, have a drink, and jump back in. Hope you enjoy it here! :thumbs:
 
In reply to ecofarm above on foreign policy.

I'm often concerned that we don't get all of the facts, enough information to make informed decisions on foreign conflicts. Our politicians tell us what they want us to hear and its difficult to determine what is true and what is not true. With that said I'm mostly against foreign conflicts in general because we've lost the ability to win such conflicts. I don't see a need to spend our blood and resources n something we can't win. And when we meddle and don't win, well, the mess we're in at present is the result.
 
Stoney said:
I'm an old hat at forums and US Political discussion. I'm looking for a place where the rules are reasonable and discussion is not destroyed by members who are more interested in provoking angry response than reasoned thought.

I consider myself libertarian and have little regard for either the Republican or Democrat political parties. I am interested in Anarcho-Capitalism as a concept and pure Capitalism as a goal to regain the liberty that we've lost in this USA. I am not optimistic that this goal could be achieved. But negotiation often starts with optimistic pursuits.

I posted essentially this introduction in another forum with me providing only one reply to other posts in thread, a reply that was civil and respectful, and after several pages of posts that did not address me the thread was closed. I'm looking for someplace a little less combative.
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Not to get off on the wrong foot, but as an anarchist, I will state clearly that anarcho-capitalism is not a thing. Anarchism has consistently been against capitalism since day one. Essentially anarcho-capitalism is an oxymoron, like the term sovereign citizen.

Beyond that, welcome! I do hope we will have some interesting debates.
 
Mr. Invisible said:
Not to get off on the wrong foot, but as an anarchist, I will state clearly that anarcho-capitalism is not a thing. Anarchism has consistently been against capitalism since day one. Essentially anarcho-capitalism is an oxymoron, like the term sovereign citizen.

Beyond that, welcome! I do hope we will have some interesting debates.
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This is about like the libertarian thread. I see and have had anarcho-capitalism defined as a capitalist society essentially without the force of government. I would agree that it doesn't exist and might agree that it would be difficult at best to establish and maintain. But I don't see it as an oxymoron. It is essentially what humans started with in the purest sense.

There is no wrong foot with me within the rules as I've read them on this forum.
 
Stoney said:
This is about like the libertarian thread. I see and have had anarcho-capitalism defined as a capitalist society essentially without the force of government. I would agree that it doesn't exist and might agree that it would be difficult at best to establish and maintain. But I don't see it as an oxymoron. It is essentially what humans started with in the purest sense.

There is no wrong foot with me within the rules as I've read them on this forum.
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No, I am not stating that it would be hard to maintain, what I am saying is it has absolutely no basis in anarchist thought whatsoever. In addition to this, there are a number of problems with 'anarcho-capitalism.'
 
Mr. Invisible said:
No, I am not stating that it would be hard to maintain, what I am saying is it has absolutely no basis in anarchist thought whatsoever. In addition to this, there are a number of problems with 'anarcho-capitalism.'
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Start a thread and I'll participate in a reasoned discussion. Of course a discussion about whether or not an idea exists that some would characterize as anarcho-capitalism would be unnecessary.
 
Stoney said:
I'm an old hat at forums and US Political discussion. I'm looking for a place where the rules are reasonable and discussion is not destroyed by members who are more interested in provoking angry response than reasoned thought.

I consider myself libertarian and have little regard for either the Republican or Democrat political parties. I am interested in Anarcho-Capitalism as a concept and pure Capitalism as a goal to regain the liberty that we've lost in this USA. I am not optimistic that this goal could be achieved. But negotiation often starts with optimistic pursuits.

I posted essentially this introduction in another forum with me providing only one reply to other posts in thread, a reply that was civil and respectful, and after several pages of posts that did not address me the thread was closed. I'm looking for someplace a little less combative.
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I feel your pain. I ended up here because of the "civility a must" motto. Although we have our fair share of trolls and chest-pounders, the moderating team is among the most fair I've ever seen in my decade plus of posting on forums. It's a huge forum, though, with thousands of daily posts so moderators do rely on posters to report posts they believe violate the forum roles.

I hope you enjoy DP, and welcome to the forum!
 
DiAnna said:
I feel your pain. I ended up here because of the "civility a must" motto. Although we have our fair share of trolls and chest-pounders, the moderating team is among the most fair I've ever seen in my decade plus of posting on forums. It's a huge forum, though, with thousands of daily posts so moderators do rely on posters to report posts they believe violate the forum roles.

I hope you enjoy DP, and welcome to the forum!
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This... a thousand times a like. :)
 
Welcome to DP, Stoney!

I hope you enjoy the forums. :)
 
Welcome, Stoney.

Love the av.
 
NoC_T said:
Welcome, Stoney.

Love the av.
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Thanks. I had one a little more subtle that I like better for many years but couldn't find it to upload to this forum. Years ago a guy I who participated with me on another forum found a cat with a machine gun av. Dueling av's.
 
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