Originally Posted by americanwoman

I'm much more afraid of kids packing guns at school. Or having school programs get cut due to budget problems- like having to go to court to fight someone giving the kids bibles..

Originally Posted by Kernel Sanders

I don't see why the kids shouldn't be able to hand out Bibles. As long as the school isn't barring other kids from handing out the Qur'an this isn't endorsement of a religion IMO

Originally Posted by ARealConservative

Everybody knows the 14th amendment was implemented to radically change the nature of public schools in relation to religion.


It's too bad my fellow atheists have no respect for the rule of law.

Originally Posted by US Constitution 14th amendment

Amendment XIV
Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside. No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

Section 2. Representatives shall be apportioned among the several states according to their respective numbers, counting the whole number of persons in each state, excluding Indians not taxed. But when the right to vote at any election for the choice of electors for President and Vice President of the United States, Representatives in Congress, the executive and judicial officers of a state, or the members of the legislature thereof, is denied to any of the male inhabitants of such state, being twenty-one years of age, and citizens of the United States, or in any way abridged, except for participation in rebellion, or other crime, the basis of representation therein shall be reduced in the proportion which the number of such male citizens shall bear to the whole number of male citizens twenty-one years of age in such state.

Section 3. No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any state, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any state legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any state, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.

Section 4. The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law, including debts incurred for payment of pensions and bounties for services in suppressing insurrection or rebellion, shall not be questioned. But neither the United States nor any state shall assume or pay any debt or obligation incurred in aid of insurrection or rebellion against the United States, or any claim for the loss or emancipation of any slave; but all such debts, obligations and claims shall be held illegal and void.

Section 5. The Congress shall have power to enforce, by appropriate legislation, the provisions of this article.

Originally Posted by kamino

Just read through the 14th amendment, don't see anything about public schools and religion or anything that may have any thing to do with it. Please show me where it is.

Originally Posted by ARealConservative

First...in your own opinion, what was the intent of the 14th amendment? Why did the country enact it?

Originally Posted by kamino

Section 1 is for persons not being alienated while in another state.

Section 2 shows the manner in which persons will be selected by the several states for the office of house of reps.

Section 3 discribes who may not hold office.

Section 4 talks about debt incured by insurection.

Section 5 congress has the power to enforce this.

I'm not trying to be a smart *** but I honestly do not see anything that may have anything to do with religion and schools. I beg you, please point it out to me.

Originally Posted by ARealConservative

There is nothing in it dealing with public schools. My original point is sarcasm and I find it disgraceful that atheists allow the rule of law to be circumvented for political expedience.

The supreme court used the 14th amendment as justification to ban religion in schools....but not for decades after it was passed.