Iriemon

Really Bhkad, if we want to read fish wrap neocon propoganda from the likes of David Horowitz's Frontpagemagazine, we could visit the website ourselves.

You don't need to constantly repost their articles here, unless you are trying to demonstrate the lack of bias, objectivity, and honesty of your positions.

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Tucker Case

Ok, now that's just plain funny, I don't care who you are.

bhkad

Your script doesn't apply to my answer. Maybe you will have to ask your higher-ups for a better response.

Try imagining a Mosque.

All the worshipers enter through a single entrance.

After the service is complete the worshipers leave through one of two exit doors.

Some worshipers exit through the moderate door and others exit through the extremist door.

What we would love to happen is that Muslims seal up the extremist door and that everyone who worships emerges as moderates.

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But, when all is said and done, Senator McCain has not spent decades aiding and abetting people who hate America. http://jewishworldreview.com/cols/sowell060508.php3

bhkad

So why doesn't Islam seal up the extremist door?

Tucker Case

honestly, I do not see a difference between the two as far as holy books and documents go. Both are equally dangerous if that is the method of comparison.

If we look at all of their actions past and present, again from an objective view, and GENERALLY, I must say that they are equally dangerous, given the correct conditions.


If you were to ask which religion is the greater threat at this time? I have to honestly say Islam because there are currently more extremists in Islam.


If you really look at my posts, I never say that Islamism is not a threat.

I just reject the notion that Islam is a GREATER threat than Christianity or Judaism IN GENERAL.

RIGHT NOW, on the other hand, Islam is more of a threat than Christianity because Islam is in an expansionist phase. That doesn't mean that ALL Muslims are a threat, nor that NO Christians are a threat. It is a "more of one than the other" thing.

Does this point of view mean that I cannot resist extremist Islam for some reason?




And I wholeheartedly agree with that. That's a reasonable desire. It's a lot different from trying to get both doors boarded up and the Mosque burned down, which is how many of the anti-Islam posts I've seen come across.

Iriemon

Because you think murdering in the name of America is justified?

Kernel Sanders

Yeah - Islam should be like Christianity, with no extremists whatsoever

There will always be violent misguided fools who use religion, any religion, as their vessel for their hate. Those people and those people alone are responsible for their actions. Islam as a whole is no more responsible for the extremists than Christianity is responsible for the nuts who bomb abortion clinics

Iriemon

The only real Christians aren't running around blowing up people is because for the most part they are the wealthiest, control the most resources, and have the military might to effect their policies. If Christians don't like what is happening in another country, they don't have to set off a suicide bomb, they send in the F/A-18 and drop them.

You don't have to go too far back in history to see where Christians have resorted to terrorism when they had no other means. Check Ireland, the Basque region of Spain, Bosnia, etc.

Give Al-Queda or Hezbollah or whoever a couple squadron of F-22s and I'm sure they'd prefer to use them over suicide missions.

bhkad

You have twisted and turned and conveniently ignored what you had to in order to get back to your original faulty conclusion.

I will say it again.

Because of abrogation and duality the one Koran can produce two kinds of Muslims. The moderate types and the extremist types. So far, the extremist percentage runs about 30% of the total.

Again, because of the dual logic in Islam neither the moderates nor the extremists can assert that theirs is THE correct interpretation of the Koran and so the extremists do as they please and the moderates do little or nothing about it.

The extremists want to apply Sharia law to all the world and conquer, convert, kill or hold non-Muslims in captivity.

If the moderates can't stop the extremists and the extremists won't stop on their own it is up to non-Muslims to protect themselves.

Kernel Sanders

The Old Testament is much more violent and misogynistic than the New Testament is, and as such Christian extremists often use passages to validate their hatred of others (homosexuality is a very common target). Because of the nature of religion, neither can assert that theirs is THE correct interpretation of the Bible and so the extremists do as they please and the moderates do little or nothing about it.

Why do you believe that it is the job of normal, peaceful, forgiving Muslims to stop the extremists? When was the last time you did anything to stop the violence that Christian extremists use to target abortion clinics, or homosexuals, or anybody else?