| Church and State FOR INFIDELS: Duality and Political Islam; Originally Posted by John_Gault
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Originally Posted by John_Gault I have a feeling that Bhkah has a shortcut to thereligionofpeace.com on his desktop.   | I'm guessing homepage. |
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Originally Posted by John_Gault I have a feeling that Bhkah has a shortcut to thereligionofpeace.com on his desktop.   | Quote:
Originally Posted by Tucker Case I'm guessing homepage. | Do you realize the Qu'ran commands Muslims to rest not until Allah is the sole worshiped God?
Do you recognize that this command is basically a theological mandate of never-ending expansion and dominance... by force if necessary? |
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Originally Posted by bhkad Do you realize the Qu'ran commands Muslims to rest not until Allah is the sole worshiped God?
Do you recognize that this command is basically a theological mandate of never-ending expansion and dominance... by force if necessary? |   
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Originally Posted by John_Gault | Your clever attempt to dodge the question looks familiar.
Is, "Obama," your real last name? |
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Originally Posted by bhkad Your clever attempt to dodge the question looks familiar.
Is, "Obama," your real last name? |
Is yours Colbert? |
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Originally Posted by John_Gault
Is yours Colbert? | Let's start over.
Do you realize the Qu'ran commands Muslims to rest not until Allah is the sole worshiped God?
Do you recognize that this command is basically a theological mandate of never-ending expansion and dominance... by force if necessary? |
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Originally Posted by bhkad Let's start over.
Do you realize the Qu'ran commands Muslims to rest not until Allah is the sole worshiped God?
Do you recognize that this command is basically a theological mandate of never-ending expansion and dominance... by force if necessary? | I am going to play along with your little game. please reference verse.
Have you read the Qu'ran? Here is what a certain gentleman that DID read the Qu'ran said about muslims:
Where the preamble declares, that coercion is a departure from the plan of the holy author of our religion, an amendment was proposed by inserting "Jesus Christ," so that it would read "A departure from the plan of Jesus Christ, the holy author of our religion;" the insertion was rejected by the great majority, in proof that they meant to comprehend, within the mantle of its protection, the Jew and the Gentile, the Christian and Mohammedan, the Hindoo and Infidel of every denomination.
-Thomas Jefferson, Autobiography, in reference to the Virginia Act for Religious Freedom |
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Originally Posted by John_Gault I am going to play along with your little game. please reference verse.
Have you read the Qu'ran? Here is what a certain gentleman that DID read the Qu'ran said about muslims:
Where the preamble declares, that coercion is a departure from the plan of the holy author of our religion, an amendment was proposed by inserting "Jesus Christ," so that it would read "A departure from the plan of Jesus Christ, the holy author of our religion;" the insertion was rejected by the great majority, in proof that they meant to comprehend, within the mantle of its protection, the Jew and the Gentile, the Christian and Mohammedan, the Hindoo and Infidel of every denomination.
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The Qu'ran commands Muslims to rest not until Allah is the sole worshiped God. This injunction is basically a theological mandate of never-ending expansion and dominance... by force if necessary.
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Originally Posted by bhkad | So I take it that you haven't read the Qu'ran...
Again please post the verse that supports your claim.
The problem with this entire argument of yours is that it doesn't matter what they believe. The bible contains just as much authoritarian world conquering violent BS. It is all a matter of interpretation...
Bottom line, if it isn't a religion it will be something else motivating extremism. To go even further the circumstances and sociology that allowed that ideology to flourish. The blame for the existence of those circumstances cannot be laid at the feet of any one man but again an ideology or for lack of a better term, a policy.
No matter the people, extremism will ALWAYS flourish in the type of environment that exists in the middle east. Look at Germany post WWI (Nazism), the American South post civil war (KKK), Inner-city America (Nation of Islam).
Until we understand that, and realize that leaders will continue to gain power over people in those situations through BLAME we will continue to be an enemy of those less fortunate.
So, carry on with your ranting about a coming religious war. But you will be doing it without me. Much like your (undoubtedly) opinion on foreign policy I refuse to give this thread validity by engaging in "talks".  |
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Originally Posted by bhkad Do you realize the Qu'ran commands Muslims to rest not until Allah is the sole worshiped God?
Do you recognize that this command is basically a theological mandate of never-ending expansion and dominance... by force if necessary? | If they had even close to the power to do this you might have a point, but since they don't...
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