FOR INFIDELS: Duality and Political Islam - Page 2

Kernel Sanders · 07-31-08, 12:23 AM

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I'm confused...

You're not alone

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My internal Allah is getting bacon... lots and lots of bacon. Is that wrong?

bhkad · 07-31-08, 12:38 AM

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So tell me, what is the "real Christianity?"

The Bible breaks down into two separate Bibles, the "Old Testament" and the "New Testament." What is intriguing is that these two Bibles include contradictions. For example, the "Old Testament" (Exodus 15:3) states that "The LORD is a man of war: the LORD is his name," whereas the "New Testament generally describes the Lord as peaceful. The Bible gives a way to solve these contradictions. The latter verse is "better" than the earlier verse, allowing Christians to ignore such laws as Leviticus declaring shellfish an abomination. But this earlier verse is still true. All the verses from the Bible are true because they are the words of God.

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The vicious violence intrinsic to Islamic jihad is not an aberration. Unlike Christ’s repudiation of faith-propagating violence - “My kingdom is not of this world. If my kingdom were of this world, my servants would fight” (John 18: 36), Muhammad urges his followers to slay the enemies of Allah - “slay the idolaters wherever you find them” (Sura 9: 5). While medieval so-called Christian violence [in reality Roman Catholic e.g. the Crusades] was a lapse from Christ’s methods and thus condemned by the New Testament, Islamic violence is in perfect accord with Muhammad’s hostile directives.

Christianity, Islam and British Politics

If Jesus' message to Christians was to slay the enemies of God, we wouldn't be having this discussion.

I think that is THE DEFINITIVE proof.

The men leading the US military at the end of WWII had the A-Bomb and no one else did. We were in the position Muslims could just dream of.

The world was ours for the taking.

If we were Christian soldiers and your assertion was correct, we were in an enviable position but didn't take advantage of it.

If they were at war with Islam they'd have had an unbeatable advantage.

But we are a secular nation that's full of Christians and NO ONE was trying to finish the war by conquering our greatest foes, Japan and Germany, much less any of the Muslims like the Grand Mufti who enthusiastically helped kill Jews in the Holocaust.

So, your idea that Christianity is a threat to the world is busted.

Kernel Sanders · 07-31-08, 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by bhkad

If Jesus' message to Christians was to slay the enemies of God, we wouldn't be having this discussion.

I think that is THE DEFINITIVE proof.

The men leading the US military at the end of WWII had the A-Bomb and no one else did. We were in the position Muslims could just dream of.

The world was ours for the taking.

If we were Christian soldiers and your assertion was correct, we were in an enviable position but didn't take advantage of it.

If they were at war with Islam they'd have had an unbeatable advantage.

But we are a secular nation that's full of Christians and NO ONE was trying to finish the war by conquering our greatest foes, Japan and Germany, much less any of the Muslims like the Grand Mufti who enthusiastically helped kill Jews in the Holocaust.

So, your idea that Christianity is a threat to the world is busted.

Nice strawman. Nowhere do I assert that anybody are "Christian soldiers" nor do I assert that "Christianity is a threat to the world".

bhkad · 07-31-08, 12:49 AM

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Nice strawman. Nowhere do I assert that anybody are "Christian soldiers" nor do I assert that "Christianity is a threat to the world".

Sorry, I brought that argument with me from the other "Infidel" thread.

Kernel Sanders · 07-31-08, 12:57 AM

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Sorry, I brought that argument with me from the other "Infidel" thread.

Think nothing of it

Both threads have gone in...unintuitive directions

Iriemon · 07-31-08, 03:25 PM

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If Jesus' message to Christians was to slay the enemies of God, we wouldn't be having this discussion.

I think that is THE DEFINITIVE proof.

Where does the Koran say to slay the enemies of God?

bhkad · 07-31-08, 05:13 PM

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Where does the Koran say to slay the enemies of God?

Thank you for the correction.

Alfons · 09-13-08, 06:50 PM

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For Infidels:

Keep these facts in mind when considering statements made about Islam and ask yourself how these facts might influence the way a Muslim might talk with you.

I afraid that Islam is a future for all still christian world.

Alfons · 09-14-08, 03:17 PM

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For Infidels:

Keep these facts in mind when considering statements made about Islam and ask yourself how these facts might influence the way a Muslim might talk with you.

TheReligionofPeace.com - Islam: Making a True Difference in the World

A nice link for you.