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Old 05-24-08, 11:04 AM   #21 (permalink)
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And tell us what there is to fear from these preachers?
The loss of many of my freedoms.
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Old 05-24-08, 11:08 AM   #22 (permalink)
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Wikipedia "dhimmi" and you'll understand why Islam is far more dangerous of a religion as opposed to Christianity. Christianity doesn't explicitly advocate a theocracy.
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Old 05-24-08, 11:33 AM   #23 (permalink)
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I would say it doesnt advocate a theocracy in any way.


John 18:11 Jesus commanded Peter, "Put your sword away! Shall I not drink the cup the Father has given me?"

John 18:36 Jesus said, "My kingdom is not of this world. If it were, my servants would fight to prevent my arrest by the Jews. But now my kingdom is from another place."

Matthew 22:19 Show me the coin used for paying the tax." They brought him a denarius, 20and he asked them, "Whose portrait is this? And whose inscription?" 21 "Caesar's," they replied.
Then he said to them, "Give to Caesar what is Caesar's, and to God what is God's."

Romans 13:1 Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God. 2 Consequently, he who rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves.
Yes, but it also doesn't promote secularism either. From my understanding and the passages you quoted Christianity advocates tolerance of gov't, that's all (a smart move at the time because anyone overtly critical of the Roman gov't could be executed.). Just because Christianity doesn't promote a theocracy doesn't mean it therefore promotes secularism.
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Old 05-24-08, 02:37 PM   #24 (permalink)
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Romans 13:1 Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God. 2 Consequently, he who rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves.
I wonder what Paul would have said about Nazi Germany.
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I wonder what Paul would have said about Nazi Germany.
Probably the same. Thats why the church and christians in Germany accepted Hitler and why Christians made such good dhimmis in the caliphate.
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Well, we all have heard of Islamism. But I've never heard of Christianism.
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This thread just shows the hate people have for us Christians. It starts out all lieberal, trying to say that muslims aren't terrorists, and somehow somebody decides that Christianity is just as bad. We are a peaceful, moral group of people lead by the almighty GOD!
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This thread just shows the hate people have for us Christians. It starts out all lieberal, trying to say that muslims aren't terrorists, and somehow somebody decides that Christianity is just as bad. We are a peaceful, moral group of people lead by the almighty GOD!
Is that not what the Islamists also say? Islam directly translates to peace, and they claim to also be moral by the standards of their almighty god.
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Is that not what the Islamists also say? Islam directly translates to peace, and they claim to also be moral by the standards of their almighty god.
A religion of peace doesn't cause suicide bombers or fly planes into towers. Kill them and send them back to their moon god.
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A religion of peace doesn't cause suicide bombers or fly planes into towers. Kill them and send them back to their moon god.
Muslims and Islamists disagree about what Islam is.
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