Debate Politics Lesson For Today: Islamism = Bad - Page 2

Doc Howl · 05-22-08, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by bhkad

That's a subject I'll leave for you to explain to us all. But here's a link to help you get started.

Buddhism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I hate those guys. Here today...and here tomorrow.

bhkad · 05-22-08, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Ishmael

Islamism denotes a set of political ideologies in which Islam is not only a religion but also a political system. Basic definition.

I can think of PLENTY of Christianismists.

Yeah. We'll have to keep an eye on those folks.

Doc Howl · 05-22-08, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by bhkad

Yeah. We'll have to keep an eye on those folks.

Well, here's where to start:

Lachean · 05-22-08, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by bhkad

Well, we all have heard of Islamism. But I've never heard of Christianism. Are you thinking of starting a new movement to violently and through covert and subversive methods overthrow the US government?

Google "Christian Dominionism" "Phelps" "Hagee" "Robertson" and "Falwell"

bhkad · 05-23-08, 01:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Lachean

Google "Christian Dominionism" "Phelps" "Hagee" "Robertson" and "Falwell"

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Originally Posted by Doc Howl

Well, here's where to start:

And tell us what there is to fear from these preachers?

Iriemon · 05-23-08, 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by bhkad

It was a group of like minded Islamists, backed and financed by like minded Islamists who use violent and non-violent Jihadist efforts to create an Islamist government in EVERY nation on Earth.

There are Islamist individuals, organizations and governments all working to achieve the Islamist goal of global domination.

So if it wasn't an Islamic GOVERNMENT that involved in attacking us, what is the basis for you claim Islamic GOVERNMENTs need to be eliminated?

Lachean · 05-23-08, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by bhkad

And tell us what there is to fear from these preachers?

Their political and theological influence, the utter disrespect for our troops in the case of the Phelps family's military funeral protests, the beliefs they espouse that are in direct contradiction to a sustainable civilization, the blatant unconstitutional regard for secularism, their eager anticipation for the end of humanity, must I really go on? This is why I told you to google them, if you're really so dense that you see no problem with them.

These are people who have great political influence, and want a Christian Theocracy much like Islamists want an America under Sharia law.

Heck even Huckabee wanted to change change the constitution so that it is in line with his dogma. The fact that such people can have millions of followers, and weekly phonecalls with the President (see "Ted Haggard") the most powerful office on earth.

jb_1430 · 05-24-08, 12:09 AM

Islamism is a fundamental part of Islam. Since its inception, Islam has fought to first expand the Khilafah, then to protect the khilafah and now to restore it.

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Khilafah is one of the most important issues in Islam, many versus in Quran and many Hadiths of the Prophet ordered Muslims to establish such a system. Ruling by Islam is the most frequent issue discussed in Quran after the belief and creed. Therefore, Khilafah was discussed by many Muslim scholars, the following are the definition of some of them to Khilafah.

Ibn Khaldoon defined it as: A representation, of the one who has the right to adopt the divine rules, aimed at protecting the Deen and ruling the world (Dunia) with it.
Al-Mawardi defined it as: Succession of the Prophethood aimed at protecting the Deen and ruling the world (Dunia).
Taqiudine al-Nabhani, (founder of Hizb at-Tahreer) defined it as: A total leadership for all the Muslims aimed at implementing the Shariah of Islam and carrying the Message of Islam to the world.
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scourge99 · 05-24-08, 09:01 AM

Wikipedia "dhimmi" and you'll understand why Islam is far more dangerous of a religion as opposed to Christianity. Christianity doesn't explicitly advocate a theocracy.

jb_1430 · 05-24-08, 10:41 AM

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Christianity doesn't explicitly advocate a theocracy.

I would say it doesnt advocate a theocracy in any way.

John 18:11 Jesus commanded Peter, "Put your sword away! Shall I not drink the cup the Father has given me?"

John 18:36 Jesus said, "My kingdom is not of this world. If it were, my servants would fight to prevent my arrest by the Jews. But now my kingdom is from another place."

Matthew 22:19 Show me the coin used for paying the tax." They brought him a denarius, 20and he asked them, "Whose portrait is this? And whose inscription?" 21 "Caesar's," they replied.
Then he said to them, "Give to Caesar what is Caesar's, and to God what is God's."

Romans 13:1 Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God. 2 Consequently, he who rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves.