Kali

Just take a look at the Federalist Papers!

FluffyNinja

This is the point, isn't it. The Constitution DOES NOT say that our nation is "FOUNDED" upon anything. Does it say America is "founded upon Democracy?" No. Does that mean it's not? Does the Constitution say that the U.S. would be "founded upon a capitalistic economy?" No. Would you argue that our nation is not founded upon capitalistic principles just because it's not explicitly stated?

The point is - the Constitution doesn't explicitly "say" a lot of things, and that is why it is important to study the history behind it - and that includes the beliefs, attitudes and views of those who helped to frame it. How is it acceptable to change something before we fully understand what its intent was in the fisrst place.

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new coup for you

sounds like you're an activist judge liberal

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And why does your tone suggest that you do not care about children?

Kali

It does not say we are a Democracy because contrary to what people wish to think? We are not a Democracy? We are a republic!

FluffyNinja

I assume this is a feeble attempt at sarcasm. An Activist Liberal Judge would want to change interpretations of the law "on a whim." I, on the other hand only seek the truth. A true Liberal shies away from the past and tradition and only seeks change to fit the current state of affairs. My opinions, if anything are quite "Traditionalist."

FluffyNinja

True. but the Constitution DOES NOT say that the U.S. would be founded as a Republic either - if you can find those words explicity in the document let's see them - they're not there. Remember (or maybe you don't) that when the Constitution was written, the people could not even elect their own Senators, only literate, white property owners over the age of 21 could vote, and women, Native Americans, Blacks and Hispanics weren't represented at all.

FluffyNinja

I have, many times while working on my Master's Thesis in American History. To which of the federalist Papers are you referring? I have read nothing in them that explicitly denies the Christian Foundation of our country.
On the contrary, read below:

“With equal pleasure I have as often taken notice that Providence has been pleased to give this one connected country to one united people--a people descended from the same ancestors, speaking the same language, professing the same religion, attached to the same principles of government, very similar in their manners and customs, and who, by their joint counsels, arms, and efforts, fighting side by side throughout a long and bloody war, have nobly established general liberty and independence.”
The Federalist Papers : No. 2

Bold emphasis - mine

CaptainCourtesy

You are seeking your version of the truth. That is called interpretation.

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Felicity

Christianity allows for freedom of religion. It is a Christian ideal that one needs to freely embrace belief without coersion.

See the First Amendment....and then see Matthew 10:11-14.

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Mach

No, we shouldn't define the U.S. this way.
The U.S. is not a Christian nation.

The U.S. is strong because of its fundamental separation of church and state, and religious freedom. To then turn around and claim it's a "Christian nation" does not coincide with the reality above.

Christianity is the majority religion in the U.S., and does wield more power in the U.S. than any other religion, but religion and politics are supposed to stay distinct to avoid the negative impact of having a religion drive government. If Christians were really helpful, they would keep their religion to themselves and stop aggravating everyone else.

-Mach

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