Rev.

So then you just proved FACT #2...since you CAN get pregnant on the Pill, and implantation is required for that, therefore the Pill allows implantation. Implantations that result in babies are the ones we know about.

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Ikari

Restaurants are private business, the regulation is in the service to customers. The checks are to ensure proper food handling/storing etc is taking place...not demanding what be on the menu. Should an upstanding French restaurant be forced to sell cheeseburgers? It's food right? No, instead the only rightful place for the government is to ensure quality of product going to the consumer. And that's the same way with pharmacies, though with a bit more because one of the government's concerns is with prescription drugs finding their way to the streets. The regulations are there to make sure the pharmacist knows what he/she is doing, that they are trained in the job and know what they're supposed to do, to make sure that the drugs are stored safely, to ensure that logs of all drug transactions are kept, etc. What it can't do is force them to sell all drugs. The regulations make sure there is qualification and that things are taken care of drug wise, after that the owner of the business may sell whatever legal thing he feels is appropriate for his business. If that's not birth control, then that's that. Can't force him to sell it.

The government can tell you it's not healthy for you, it can require that the restaurant inform its customers that it could be in the food (though this could be taken care of with a healthy dose of thinking...which doesn't seem to be in trend with the nanny-staters). It's not the government's place to keep us fit and healthy, that's our job to do ourselves. While there are some reasonable expectations one can gain through the use of some government regulation; in the end if you don't do it for yourself, you are going to loose all ability to do things for yourself. While the government can make sure that there aren't any contaminates in food which will kill or make us real sick; it can't protect us from everything (nor is that its job). So learn to do things for yourself.

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tryreading

I do everything for myself, that's why I'm familiar with trans fats and other saturated fats, whether man-made or not.

Trans fat is a contaminant in food that 'will kill us or make us real sick.' The people who sell it don't necessarily care what it does to the average American. They may only care that it saves them money. So what you end up with is people harming other people without telling them about it. Nothing wrong with regulating that.

Ikari

It's not poisonous, it's definitely bad for you in large quantities, but it's not like it's arsenic . Trans fats were used because of their higher breakdown temperature made them ideal, but we are now finding that continuous intake of these fats is very bad for you and we're already moving away from it. The market forces have taken over and it doesn't take much to avoid trans fats these days. It's so not in "everything" like you seem to believe, and it's not like no one is saying anything about...like you seem to believe. It's out there, don't want trans fats...don't buy products with trans fats in there. Too lazy/stupid to do the research? Eat trans fats and get out of the gene pool. Government isn't here to save you from yourself. It's not like any of this information is hard to find or process. Restaurants will tell you if something has trans fats (most don't use them...hell even the fast food companies like Burger King have moved away from it...should maybe tell you a thing or two about market forces), it's on packaging of items you buy (not even Doritos has trans fat....Doritos man, those things are terrible for you and they don't use it), it's where you need to find it. There's no problem, it's already been taken care of. People found out how bad it was, people stopped buying it, companies and restaurants changed to recapture those people. Done and done.

roguenuke

This is really easy fix. If a person owns the pharmacy and doesn't want to sell contraceptives in whatever form, then don't order them. A pharmacy has to order the drugs they carry, so if they don't have them, they can't sell them. Real simple.

However, if a pharmacy does have them, that means they intend to sell them to the public. The pharmacy cannot pick and choose who they sell their products to (as long as there is a legitimate prescription) when those products are for sell to the public. A pharmacist that feels he/she can't for religious purposes sell a certain drug to someone should pass the order on to a coworker or be ready to be fired if the owner disagrees.

tryreading

To respond to the ignorant statement I bolded above I submit the following sites. Only takes a minute to look at them, so unless you're too lazy/stupid, you may learn something.

Frito-Lay : BAKED! DORITOS NACHO CHEESE® Flavored Tortilla Chips
Frito-Lay : DORITOS Light NACHO CHEESE® Flavored Tortilla Chips
Frito-Lay : DORITOS Reduced Fat NACHO CHEESE® Flavored Tortilla Chips



Did you notice that Doritos claim on one section of their nutrition labeling that the products contain no trans fats? But if you also read the listed ingredients, you saw that those Doritos products all contain hydrogenated oils, which are trans fats.

There is currently a loophole manufacturers can use. If their product contains .5 grams of trans fats per serving, they can state there are no trans fats in a serving of the product. Frito Lay has you believing and stating on websites that Doritos contains no trans fats.

So I recommend we push government to force truth in advertising and limiting of dangerous non-necessary man-made ingredients in the food supply.

For your part, I just urge a little research before posting.

Mach

That topic for today is "Pharmacy".

...do whatever the people that form the government want it to do (in the U.S. case).

So, now we know it's about a pharmacy and that we are not in a state of anarchy (whew, I was about to go buy a ton of guns and trade all my money for gold and start conquest to take everything from you and laugh hysterically while doing so), maybe it can return to the topic.

I believe in the U.S. this falls under the states pharamcy laws and regulatory board. In some cases it may be legally not allowed to refuse lawful prescriptions.

In almost every other case the license requirements have wording like " in the best interest of the patient", which it is up to the board/state to decide if the pharamcist/pharmacy are violating that by using mystical gods as their determination of what is or is not in their customers best interest. I would always side with the side opposing mysticism and other hore****.

-Mach

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