Hatuey

....you make $130,000 a year and can't afford to pay for your own education? I smell a rat.

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Cephus

Exactly. This loser has a $700k house and at least $135k income and he's saying he's got to move into a house for the homeless, drug users and prostitutes called the Dream House.

Um... isn't that what got him into trouble in the first place? Hookers and drugs? I can't imagine being there would be less than a dream for him!

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UtahBill

Poor little man, looking for sympathy, and drugs, and sex with other poor little men. He can get the drugs and sex on the street, we know that from his past history, but you can't get sympathy on the street. He will have to go to those who are stupid enough to give him cash, confusing that as some kind of cure for those in need of sympathy. What he needs is a good kick in the posterior.
BTW, ORU is in trouble as well. Seems Oral's son and daughter-in-law have tapped into church funds for personal fun....

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Cephus

And we're surprised? It's yet another slimeball evangelist fleecing the flock for personal gain.

Hatuey

I won't disclose how much I make yearly....but I will say one thing. Even if he made "just" over $110,000 a year, not counting any side projects he might have, he'd live VERY comfortably and would be able to afford most schools. I mean seriously...you own a $700K home...and you expect people to believe you can't pay for your own education?

UtahBill

The wife and I own 2 homes, and the combined value of the 2 MIGHT be $700 thousand....and they are nice homes! The AZ one is for sale, but with the market like it is, and our reluctance to give it away, we will likely own it for a few more years.
And we can honestly say that the only rich relative who ever helped us out is our Uncle Sam. He educated me in the Navy, and paid some GI bill for college later on. I only had to give him back 12.5 years of my life.
Kind of fun for me to see the greedy scammers get their comeuppance...

Stinger

The question is what can be done about it if anything at all. Separation of Church and State goes both ways. If they are reporting their taxes correctly and legally not much to government can do. If the government tries to regulate them in any way...............................

Still shameful that someone lives an extravagant life of donations people give based on religious affilitation.

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Cephus

The government already regulates it and should go even farther. They determine who is and is not a legitimate religion and/or non-profit entity and grants tax exempt status. Churches should be required, as part of their tax exempt status, to prove on a year-to-year basis, that they are actually non-profit. Giving their ministers million-dollar houses and five Mercedes and trips to the Bahamas is not non-profit in any way, it's out and out fraud.

Stinger

As I said as long as as they are meeting the requirements of the law there is probably little that can be done. If we try to change the law then my question, what do we do about it. Change it how that doesn't violate the constitution.

Publicizing it, making it a public issue, educating people about the most egregious ones but churches can pay high salaries if they choose and as long as the board approves it there is not much that can be done.

I bet we find the church is not doing that directly. But I hope they do catch some of the thiefs parading as preachers.

foundit66

1) If the money is not being spent as the donors intend, that could account to fraud.
Separation of church and state does not protect people from legal prosecution for crimes.

2) If donations to the organization do not qualify as "tax deductible", that should also be realized.
If I were to donate for Donald Trump to party at the Playboy mansion, I wouldn't expect that to be deductible.
If he turned into "Reverend" Trump and the same happened, it still isn't tax deductible.

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