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Old 06-04-09, 03:32 PM   #281
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Re: Go to Prom and get Suspended?

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You mean like you do?

"Go goose-step elsewhere dude.

Your brownosing of a collection of nazi assbags is sickening.

I characterize you as a far right wing nutjob.

Your views favor the far right nazi zealots at the school. This makes you no better than them.

We're not discussing private property. That is retarded right wing bull****.

If you were not a far right nazi republiscumbag supporter, you would be able to see past your religion and programming.

I am sorry you're not educated enough to see that comparsion for what it is.

The uneducated always scream "bigotry" when they know their argument is defeated.

This is the prattle of the far right zealot supporting religious nut. It's their trademark and YOU ARE DISPLAYING IT NICELY!

You arguments failed to be anything more than far right conformist bull****.

Yet more Republicanazi excuse making.

Conservatives tend to be nazi-like. It's in their nature.
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This is a good one here...

"Yet another conseravite supporter of religious tyranny.

Conservatives and religious tyranny go togther like:

Eggs and Bacon
Death and Taxes
Politics and Corruption
Stupidity and George W. Bush
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No trolling here.

"Yet more anti-American conservative nonsense.

You are WRONG. You lack the gonads to admit it.

You and your motely crew of brow-nosing conservative nazism supporters represent one of the major issues with this country.

We all know you're a *former" catholic. You were raised to believe the same nonsensical bull**** that the charter school is spewing. Naturally you would be sympathetic to their nazi tactics.

You sir lack the objectivity to debate this topic.

As does the squad of brown-nosers who seems to be following you.

I will not bow down to confused right-wingers who think they and their religious institutions are above the law.

You right-wingers need to understand that neither you, nor your religious institutions, are above the law.

Yet more republican religious support spewage.

The conservative in you just lacks the courage to admit an error.

You can choke the right-wing chicken all you want. It's still a chicken... and you're still wrong.
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So saying your argument and debate kills make you sound like a moonbat (with a picture no less) may be trolling according to the mod, but this makes it no less true and not name calling.

Pot meet kettle.

None of these is an attack on you. They are an attack on the right wing. If you think I am aiming at you, maybe you are more conservative that you thought.
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Old 06-04-09, 03:34 PM   #282
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I have something for you Vader that may help you.

Step 1: Learn a thing or two about the ****ing constitution and law

Step 2: ???

Step 3: Knowledge

Your posts in this thread are some of the most ignorant posting I believe I've ever seen on this forum that, mixed with your over the top bigoted stance on religion and your absolutely out of touch with reality or logic views on the constitution, make me roll my eyes at your childish 5 year old insults. Your actions, mixed with your words, have shown your opinions to deserve no more attention, respect, or consideration than said 5 year olds.

This school had in my opinion an extremely stupid rule in their agreement. However, the person in question AGREED to that agreement in exchange for attending the school. He was not forced. There was no violations of the constitution. You're wrong and if you go to any respectable constitutional authority they'll tell you the same thing. Deal with it, or be like yourself and whine and bitch about it while we all ignore it akin to a gnat buzzing around.


Trolling and Ad Hom from a mod. How unprofessional.

I realize you're a "former" catholic who has been programmed to follow the church blindly. I realize you are a right wing conservative.

None of these things gives you the right to commit a blatent ad hom war. You don't agree --- too bad.

Your right wing buddies are wrong. YOU are wrong.

Your shameless personal attack will be reported.
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Old 06-04-09, 03:38 PM   #283
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Trolling and Ad Hom from a mod. How unprofessional.

I realize you're a "former" catholic who has been programmed to follow the church blindly. I realize you are a right wing conservative.

None of these things gives you the right to commit a blatent ad hom war. You don't agree --- too bad.

Your right wing buddies are wrong. YOU are wrong.

Your shameless personal attack will be reported.
Vader, insulting your rather crappy and uniformed opinion and stance on this matter and devaluing it is not an attack on you personally...its an attack on your crappy and uniformed opinion. The rest of your statement above is mostly laughable and just further shows how your generally bigoted stances on religion influences everything and anything you do in regards to debate. The fact you still harp on a religious practice that was more something I was dragged along to then anything I actually practiced, and have not practiced for over a decade, is proof enough for that.

This has nothing to do with my religion, past or present, or with my political stance. It just has to do with a simple thing that is common with you agian, and again, and again, and again.

The fact that you're just freaking wrong and ignorant on a topic.
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Religion isn't above the law. However, Vader appears to be extremely ignorant of the law. The religious institutiton didn't do anything illegal here. They did not do anything that isn't practiced both by business and privately joined groups throughout the country. There was no forced removal of any rights, there wasn't even any REMOVAL of rights. There was a simple agreement that a person had to do X to attend Y, which is NOT a violation of any law.

Yes, in general the statement that religion isn't above the law is correct. The issue is Vader's bigoted stance vs Religion is the reason he's thinking that has any connotation here, when it doesn't, because "religion" isn't doing anything against the law here.

If this is somehow against the law then I can say I will be extremely happy to know that Non Disclosure Agreements can also be found to be unconstitutional because it'd be great to know all this tech information immedietely instead of having to wait months for peoples "Freedom of Speech" to be allowed.

I have a degree in a law-related field.

I am not ignorant or uneducated. I know more about it than you do because unlike yourself I HAVE CASE LAW ON THIS ISSUE. OVER AND OVER AGAIN.

I HAVE THE EDUCATION AND EXPERIENCE TO MAKE A DETERMINATION AS TO WHETHER OR NOT A CASE EXISTS. You do not.

Calling me ignorant is more ad hom on your part.

You are NOT worthy of being a moderator.
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I have a degree in a law-related field.

I am not ignorant or uneducated. I know more about it than you do because unlike yourself I HAVE CASE LAW ON THIS ISSUE. OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
I find that very very intersting, given that you refused to even try to answer the 2 questions I asked.
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Vader, insulting your rather crappy and uniformed opinion and stance on this matter and devaluing it is not an attack on you personally...its an attack on your crappy and uniformed opinion. The rest of your statement above is mostly laughable and just further shows how your generally bigoted stances on religion influences everything and anything you do in regards to debate. The fact you still harp on a religious practice that was more something I was dragged along to then anything I actually practiced, and have not practiced for over a decade, is proof enough for that.

This has nothing to do with my religion, past or present, or with my political stance. It just has to do with a simple thing that is common with you agian, and again, and again, and again.

The fact that you're just freaking wrong and ignorant on a topic.

The fact that you call me ignorant IS ad hom. Whether or not you're still active is IRRELEVANT. You can take the boy out of the church but not the church out of the boy. That is what you fail to understand.

Your personal attacks on me, calling me ignorant and bigoted, are nothing more than a typical far right response to being called out for placing religion above the law.

Your abusive attitude and constant insults --- based on your disagreement with my opinions --- is ad hom. If you can't see it, perhaps you should resign.

You are not objective and you cannot be trusted to be fair.

Your posts will be reported.
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I find that very very intersting, given that you refused to even try to answer the 2 questions I asked.
I did answer you.

You just didn't like the answers I provided.
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I have a degree in a law-related field.

I am not ignorant or uneducated. I know more about it than you do because unlike yourself I HAVE CASE LAW ON THIS ISSUE. OVER AND OVER AGAIN.

I HAVE THE EDUCATION AND EXPERIENCE TO MAKE A DETERMINATION AS TO WHETHER OR NOT A CASE EXISTS. You do not.

Calling me ignorant is more ad hom on your part.

You are NOT worthy of being a moderator.
I'm not calling YOU ignorant. I'm stating your knowledge of the constitution, and in general organizations and contracts, as presented here makes me believe you're ignorant to that bit of information. If you wish to claim that you have some great experience in it, go ahead. That doesn't change the fact that your words and arguments here are so outlandish and frankly wrong that it appears you're ignorant on this subject, IE speaking without knowledge of THIS SUBJECT.

But please, link to case law that states a Business, School, or other private enterprise can not have a condition in which employement, use of facilities or items, or enrollment is contingent upon activity taken place outside of the premises of that organization, business, or other private entity. I'd LOVE to see this case law. Links please.

As I already said, I'm eager to see the legions of legal lawsuits against every tech company that ever has existed over the illegality, according to your logic, of Non-Disclosure Agreements, which are contracts of sorts entered into by individuals and private enterprises that allow the individual to do a privledge in exchange for that individual choosing to give up their right to talk...IE speech...about a specific thing even outside of the perview of that company. Really, I'm wanting to watch you shake Microsoft and Apple to their knees.
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I have a degree in a law-related field.
Is that so?

Pray tell, why did you confuse adult with minor in the field of contract law?

And I'm not a lawyer.
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Old 06-04-09, 03:55 PM   #290
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I'm not calling YOU ignorant. I'm stating your knowledge of the constitution, and in general organizations and contracts, as presented here makes me believe you're ignorant to that bit of information. If you wish to claim that you have some great experience in it, go ahead. That doesn't change the fact that your words and arguments here are so outlandish and frankly wrong that it appears you're ignorant on this subject, IE speaking without knowledge of THIS SUBJECT.

But please, link to case law that states a Business, School, or other private enterprise can not have a condition in which employement, use of facilities or items, or enrollment is contingent upon activity taken place outside of the premises of that organization, business, or other private entity. I'd LOVE to see this case law. Links please.

As I already said, I'm eager to see the legions of legal lawsuits against every tech company that ever has existed over the illegality, according to your logic, of Non-Disclosure Agreements, which are contracts of sorts entered into by individuals and private enterprises that allow the individual to do a privledge in exchange for that individual choosing to give up their right to talk...IE speech...about a specific thing even outside of the perview of that company. Really, I'm wanting to watch you shake Microsoft and Apple to their knees.
Back tracking now isn't going to cut it.

Your support of far right wing nazism is obvious. There is no question that you are a Republican (deny it if you want).

I am NOT ignorant. Even IMPLYING such is not allowed on DP.

The Frost family is currently suing the school and are likely to prevail (our government is now very liberal) and receive damages.

Mr. Frosts parents are likely to collect a refund of any monies paid to the school. The court is also likely to issue an order requiring the school to allow the boy to graduate with his class.

The school is wrong --- they are punishing HIM for doing something that is contrary to THEIR beliefs. Contract or not -- this is a 1st Amendment violation.

People on the right do not agree because they believe they and their far right religious organizations are above the law.

They are wrong sir... as are you.

Accept it and move on.
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