Canadian PM Elbows Female Politician in Chest...

JANFU said:

And that change without a referendum for choices I am against.

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Do you really want to include the words 'referendum' and 'Quebec' in the same sentence? But that also raises a question, do you use the first-past-the-post system, yes no in a referendum, or do we get multiple choices and use the new system?

This may well end up being a can of worms Justin will choose to leave unopened through the next election, which will be easy enough to do if he can brand the Tories and the NDP as "obstructionist". It also depends a great deal on the outcome of the new 'waffle' in NDP ranks, reacting to the loss to Trudeau with a hard left turn. And that is a long road to nowhere, already occupied by the Green Party on the eco front, and at odds with unionized labour, the traditional support for the NDP. One set of thinking sees a split to a "labour waffle" or more appropriately a "Labour Party".

Three years or more from now, Trudeau would be a fool not to call a snap election amid such disarray on the left. And we already know he's drawing a line in the sand on an East-West pipeline; he is bound and determined to sell the idea in Quebec.

The true definition of a Canadian parliamentary democracy is one where the government calls elections when they can win, or have run out of time. Trudeau strikes me as the former

This was the biggest joke of a news story ever and the fact that Parliament is still talking about it is VERY sad.

Carjosse said:

He would probably have to murder someone at this point, his polls are astronomical at the moment.

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Which is an indictment of the shallowness and ignorance of the general Canadian public.

MickeyW said:

Hunky Canadian prime minister Justin Trudeau is in big trouble after he appeared to elbow a female member of parliament in the chest and “manhandle” several others during a testy conflagr-eh?-tion in the Canadian House of Commons.
Canadian PM Justin Trudeau Elbows Female Politician in the Chest | Heat Street

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Well good gravy - heavens forbid she move the **** out of the way when someone has to step into the middle of a group. :roll: Nothing to see here. No different than someone stepping on your foot or something else innocuous. Her 'owie! I cannot brush this off!' response is childish.

CanadaJohn said:

Which is an indictment of the shallowness and ignorance of the general Canadian public.

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IMO, limitations on the awareness of the public is not a problem that is limited to, or even (i would argue) generally associated with, Canada.

Abacus took a poll and found a vast majority (73%) simply do not care and half of the people who thought negatively of it are Conservative supporters. A group of people, including Don Cherry, actually see it as positive thing.

Peter King said:

Utter nonsense, he accidentally hit her in the chest when he turned around and this lady was standing very close to him. A total accident, nothing intentional and a fake attack on Trudeau.

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So now he's the victim? A guy who goes barging into several people, hits a lady in her tata and then walks off, knowing good and well he made contact with someone. He doesn't stop to apologize, he doesn't even look back, he just goes about his business.

In polite company one uses his manners to excuse himself at worst. At best he doesn't barge into others.

Carjosse said:

Abacus took a poll and found a vast majority (73%) simply do not care and half of the people who thought negatively of it are Conservative supporters. A group of people, including Don Cherry, actually see it as positive thing.

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As I said way back in post #3 in this thread:

"Unfortunately, Prime Minister Trudeau won't be in any trouble because Liberals, small L and capital L, are shameless and ignore any criticism of themselves."

So your poll is no surprise. As the negatives pile up, however, and they will pile up, the cumulative effect and the lasting memory of the event is what will be remember by both the media and the public. You can ignore it, but it doesn't go away - such exposures of true character never completely go away. The narrative is set of a bully who cares little about democracy - opined previously that he envies the Chinese system because leaders there can do whatever they want - and when other undemocratic moves are made, like trying to change the voting process, it will chip away at the reputation.

Don't for a minute think that a light weight like Trudeau will be able to hide his lack of character for very long.

Lord Tammerlain said:

So do you like the MP need a safe space, from being accidently hit in the chest by an elbow. I understand it can be very traumatic for some.

The horror, it was like she was being molested from what I heard.

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If I had a dollar for ever time I was elbowed in the chest, I'd have a fake business in Costa Rica.