Canada's Going to Release Cannibal Killer to Public

truthatallcost said:

So who's held responsible if Li is released, stops taking his medication, and gets hungry for another alien?
Probably no one if I anything about Canada.

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One thing you are correct on is you know SFA about Canada.

truthatallcost said:

So who's held responsible if Li is released, stops taking his medication, and gets hungry for another alien?
Probably no one if I anything about Canada.

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Ahh, don't worry about us. We'll be fine.
We appreciate your concern, though.

Grand Mal said:

Ahh, don't worry about us. We'll be fine.
We appreciate your concern, though.

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Michael Dukakis:

Release Willie Horton. What could go wrong?

Grand Mal said:

Ahh, don't worry about us. We'll be fine.
We appreciate your concern, though.

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Hey, I care greatly about Canada as it'll probably be my future home when liberals and big business repub goons ruin the US.
How's the fishing there grand mal?

JANFU said:

We do not lock 16 year old kids up for 50 or 60 years.
Your country has the highest rates of incarceration in the world- Glad not to have your legal philosophy up north.
They are cases like this that may be frustrating, but overall, we believe in rehabilitation & punishment that fit the crime.

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I agree actually on some of what you said. Prison shouldn't be a for profit business, and it clearly is here. That said, we have inmates doing life for marijuana sells, and child molesters who do 2 years in Camp Pedo before being released to offend again.

The US has a problem with its justice system, but this cannibal story takes the cake for clueless dingbat decisions.

truthatallcost said:

Hey, I care greatly about Canada as it'll probably be my future home when liberals and big business repub goons ruin the US.
How's the fishing there grand mal?

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-Depends on the bait.

Does anybody know how to read?

Article said:

Li would still face supervised administration of medication and contact with health specialists and his treating psychiatrist while living independently.

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He's still going to be monitored.

For those who like to judge Canada as being too lenient, the system here views incarceration as having a different purpose than in the U.S. Locking people away forever is reserved for the worst of the worst, otherwise prison time is seen as an opportunity to evaluate and rehabilitate. The recidivism rate is not high in Canada.

Jetboogieman said:

I remember this story well, but your article and my memory reference nothing about any canabalism.

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He ate part of the corpse after he cut off the head, but it was only a few bites. I think the article is being sensationalist by calling him a cannibal, which is redundant because I'm pretty sure the details of the original story are bad enough.

I remember the story well too... it's probably the only one etched in my memory forever. I'm not very pro-prison but I was kind of hoping they never let the guy out. I was surprised when his prison security status was downgraded a few years ago, but now reading he has been in a halfway house on his way to independent living really irks me. I guess the professionals would know better, but I dunno... what he did on the bus is hellacious.

Northern Light said:

Does anybody know how to read?



He's still going to be monitored.

For those who like to judge Canada as being too lenient, the system here views incarceration as having a different purpose than in the U.S. Locking people away forever is reserved for the worst of the worst, otherwise prison time is seen as an opportunity to evaluate and rehabilitate. The recidivism rate is not high in Canada.



He ate part of the corpse after he cut off the head, but it was only a few bites. I think the article is being sensationalist by calling him a cannibal, which is redundant because I'm pretty sure the details of the original story are bad enough.

I remember the story well too... it's probably the only one etched in my memory forever. I'm not very pro-prison but I was kind of hoping they never let the guy out. I was surprised when his prison security status was downgraded a few years ago, but now reading he has been in a halfway house on his way to independent living really irks me. I guess the professionals would know better, but I dunno... what he did on the bus is hellacious.

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What would be enough?

Destroying all of humankind?

Frank Apisa said:

What would be enough?

Destroying all of humankind?

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Paul Brenardo is a good example of someone who will never get out.

The guy in the OP was a certified schizophrenic, off his meds. If they evaluated him and decided he could rejoin society then it probably means his mental health is under control now. It's not like he was an unremorseful serial killer. I'm not really qualified to say though. I just know the system up here is tough and people often under-estimate it just by looking at the surface.

The reason why you don't get it and are reacting emotionally is because you think the punishment should be endless, but that's now how the Canadian system works. And I'm sure they didn't just release him willy nilly. He's going to be monitored for life. At least I'm hoping!

Lord Tammerlain said:

He is not being released because 8 years are up, but because doctors now feel he us not a threat to society. Canada has locked up people as dangerous offenders, which can mean their life even if they have not killed anyone. It is rare though.

I expect Mr Li will have to have regular visits with doctors who will have to ensure he is taking his medicine whatever that may be

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Well, let's hope that the doctors arent wrong on this one.

Northern Light said:

Paul Brenardo is a good example of someone who will never get out.

The guy in the OP was a certified schizophrenic, off his meds. If they evaluated him and decided he could rejoin society then it probably means his mental health is under control now. It's not like he was an unremorseful serial killer. I'm not really qualified to say though. I just know the system up here is tough and people often under-estimate it just by looking at the surface.

The reason why you don't get it and are reacting emotionally is because you think the punishment should be endless, but that's now how the Canadian system works. And I'm sure they didn't just release him willy nilly. He's going to be monitored for life. At least I'm hoping!

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I see.

So release a guy who cut off someone's head and ate bits of him.

What could possibly go wrong with that?

truthatallcost said:

So, question for the Canadians on this board..
If a cannibal, who beheaded a man in public and ate him, isn't someone who needs to be kept in confinement...who is???

This completely blows my mind.

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He is taking medications, supervised. What is he on meds for? If he is treated properly, perhaps he is not a threat to anyone?

PoS said:

Well, let's hope that the doctors arent wrong on this one.

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So do I

I am of the feeling in general, that when criminals are released especially violent, repeat offenders (especially regarding sex crimes) that parole boards should be held liable for releasing criminals who reoffend

Frank Apisa said:

What would be enough?

Destroying all of humankind?

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He was found not criminally responsible. There was no trial. There's no question of punishment. It's a matter of psychiatric treatment, not criminal justice.

Grand Mal said:

He was found not criminally responsible. There was no trial. There's no question of punishment. It's a matter of psychiatric treatment, not criminal justice.

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Okay, I agree.

I mean...what on Earth could go wrong with releasing this guy?

Frank Apisa said:

Okay, I agree.

I mean...what on Earth could go wrong with releasing this guy?

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There's always a possibility of something going wrong, but if you don't release him something has certainly already gone wrong.

Lovebug said:

He is taking medications, supervised. What is he on meds for? If he is treated properly, perhaps he is not a threat to anyone?

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There are many cases of mentally ill people who are released prematurely, and end up committing more crimes. Such as this case, from Toronto:



Psychiatry cannot cure someone of mental illness, they can only hope to limit psychotic behavior through medication. The above video shows why that can fail to work.